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Studebaker Wheel
01-04-2010, 01:02 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/From%20the%20Archives/truckassemblyc63newsgroup.jpg?t=1262631329

In the future I will be adding a suffix to the title of each image posted (i.e. From the Archives #3 truck). Incidentally, I believe the first truck in the image above is white in color!

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

Roscomacaw
01-04-2010, 01:29 PM
Well, the bumper, grille and HL bezels are white, but the rest of the truck seems to be a different shade from those pieces. Thanks Richard!
:)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Avantidon
01-04-2010, 01:38 PM
Richard when was this picture taken? That first truck looks like it is equipped with a new "Spaceside" bed. So was it after 04/23/61? It'd be interesting if this was the first picture taken after that line went into production. Thanks for the great shot.

Mark57
01-04-2010, 01:43 PM
Thanks Richard! :)[:p]
I agree with Biggs, the first truck looks to be a T4 Cab with painted instead of chrome around the lights and the grill... the truck itself appears to be a little darker.

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'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
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Guido
01-04-2010, 01:43 PM
Interesting to see there is a big C cab truck farther down the same line, I would have thought they would have been built in two different areas.

It seems odd that these appear to be completed vehicles yet there is no license plate bracket on the front of the first truck. Would it have been added later by the dealer in those states with 2 plates?

Lastly, anyone else notice the M-B crate in the front right?

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Guido
01-04-2010, 01:45 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57

Thanks Richard! :)[:p]
I agree with Biggs, the first truck looks to be a T4 Cab with painted instead of chrome around the lights and the grill... the truck itself appears to be a little darker.
It is also a 6 cylinder. Are you good enough to identify the year by the air cleaner? :D

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8E45E
01-04-2010, 01:45 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57

Thanks Richard! :)[:p]
I agree with Biggs, the first truck looks to be a T4 Cab with painted instead of chrome around the lights and the grill... the truck itself appears to be a little darker.


I agree...maybe Desert Sand? That would be the lightest color next to Parchment White.

Craig

Roscomacaw
01-04-2010, 02:00 PM
Gary asks: "Lastly, anyone else notice the M-B crate in the front right?"

Yeah - and look close. It's full of front license plate brackets!:D


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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Bill Pressler
01-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Geez, I LOVE this picture! The second Champ in line has the old-style P1 bed.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
'64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)


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Mark57
01-04-2010, 02:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

It is also a 6 cylinder. Are you good enough to identify the year by the air cleaner? :D



Man you guys have good eyes! [8D] Gary, a guess to be sure, but I am thinking 8E series (63/64)? It also looks like the brake m/c is on the firewall... (a cheat on my part). ;)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
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StudeRich
01-04-2010, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

It is also a 6 cylinder. Are you good enough to identify the year by the air cleaner? :D

Ya got me on that air cleaner it is hard to see it with that dark colored heater box to it's right, it looks a lot like the open faced type used on 1960's on 6 Cyl. because I don't see a silencer can or snorkel, but we know this is NOT a 1960, it has the wide box, 1961 & up Parking lights and I can't really see any kicked up body side mouldings used on '61 Deluxe's on Truck two which appears to be a Deluxe 1/2 Ton, so that makes them '62 7E's or '63-'64 8E's.

Truck one, is a 6 Cyl. 3/4 Ton Std. Cab, Beige Color Truck.

Guido, the Mercedes crate appears to be full of Stude. gas pedals, long since having lost it's MB 190D Diesel engine! :D Just kidding about that part, I don't read German that well!

UPDATE: Yeah Biggs, that was my second guess on those parts in the crate, they do look more like the not yet installed Lic. plate brackets, both those and the pedals have a 2 hole bracket.

StudeRich

Milaca
01-04-2010, 02:15 PM
Looks like a 3/4 ton model as it looks like a full-floating hub protruding through the rear wheel. Has anyone spotted Waldo yet? :D By the way, where are all the employees? Sleeping in the new Spaceside bed?

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Mark57
01-04-2010, 02:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich


Ya got me on that air cleaner it is hard to see it with that dark colored heater box to it's right, it looks a lot like the open faced type used on 1960's on 6 Cyl. because I don't see a silencer can or snorkel, but we know this is NOT a 1960, it has the wide box, 1961 & up Parking lights and I can't really see any kicked up body side mouldings used on '61 Deluxe's on Truck two which appears to be a Deluxe 1/2 Ton, so that makes them '62 7E's or '63-'64 8E's.

StudeRich


Rich, if that first truck is a standard cab (T4), then there would likely be no chrome strips on the front fenders - therefore, it could be a '61 (6E) ?[8)]?

OK Gary - the correct answer is???

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
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Guido
01-04-2010, 02:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

Geez, I LOVE this picture! The second Champ in line has the old-style P1 bed.
It is amazing the things that you don't see (and others do). I believe Bill is right and that the third truck also has the P-1 bed on it. Given the P-1 beds, how likely these are both special order 7E's or 8E's?


quote:Originally posted by StudeRich
but we know this is NOT a 1960, it has the wide box, 1961 & up Parking lights and I can't really see any kicked up body side mouldings used on '61 Deluxe's on Truck two which appears to be a Deluxe 1/2 Ton, so that makes them '62 7E's or '63-'64 8E's.

I wonder if the trim has not been added as I do not see any external rear view mirrors.

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Guido
01-04-2010, 02:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca
By the way, where are all the employees? Sleeping in the new Spaceside bed?
Hopefully not far as it looks like the body drop is happening on the C cab.

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Roscomacaw
01-04-2010, 03:00 PM
Rich,
Using a magnifying glass - that sure looks like license plate holders in that crate - not gas pedals. The holes are too far apart for gas pedals.

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Chris_Dresbach
01-04-2010, 03:13 PM
Best pic yet!:D

Chris Dresbach

Bill Pressler
01-04-2010, 03:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by Chris_Dresbach

Best pic yet!:D

Chris Dresbach


I agree! I love this picture!

My guess is that they are '62's, built sometime before Avantis started being assembled in the same building. My reasons are:

1) Spacesides being built
2) Second truck, T6, doesn't look like it has the 'kicked up' fender molding (although truly, it's hard to tell)

My guess is that the P1's are special-order units.

There's a photo in "The Studebaker Century" book, that shows Avanti bodies being wet-sanded alongside Champs on the final assembly line. That makes me think, too, that this picture is from before mid-calendar-year '62.

This is fun (more fun than work, which I'm supposed to be doing in my office now).

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
'64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)


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StudeRich
01-04-2010, 03:42 PM
It seems a bit early for the Gasoline, but doesn't that look like the Oil and or Anti-freeze hoses there, or just some kind of air lines?

StudeRich

Mark57
01-04-2010, 03:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

This is fun (more fun than work, which I'm supposed to be doing in my office now).

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH


You are right Bill, this IS fun! According to the attached excerpt from the 7E/8E Truck Parts catalog, P1 boxes were available for 62 (7E) Champs (and I have seen a few around myself) - so maybe it is a '62 Champ. ;)
On the other hand, I notice they don't list the P1 box for the 8E Transtars either, so I don't know what that means as it was the only pu box available for the 1 tons. [8)]

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<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

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Jeff_H
01-04-2010, 04:10 PM
One thing I spotted right away was the work bench immediately to the left of the truck. There is a 2nd one behind the Mercedes crate under those hoses on the right. The splayed feet of it is distinctive and I've seen those style/brand of benches before....

Yup, you can still buy a new one just like it!

Picture from McMaster-Carr:

http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/115/gfx/large/4885t51p1l.gif

This is not the same plant as picture #1 is it? Did stude build trucks in both locations in the later years?

Jeff in ND
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8E45E
01-04-2010, 06:28 PM
I will hedge my bets its taken during the 1962 model year. The park lights in the grille on the Transtar waaaaaaaaay in the background are clear, not amber like they were in 1963. (Unless the lenses aren't installed yet. Got a magnifying glass, Richard?)

Craig

Milaca
01-04-2010, 06:41 PM
Judging by the calendar on the wall, it is April 7, 1962.















HAAAAAAH! Made you look! :D

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In the middle of Minnesota

COMMANDERPINK1
01-04-2010, 07:00 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Milaca

Judging by the calendar on the wall, it is April 7, 1962.
HAAAAAAH! Made you look!



Milaca That's just cruel:D All this excitement over an old silly picture of something that doesn't exist anymore. I love this, great picture again Richard.

Tom

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Lark Hunter
01-04-2010, 07:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I will hedge my bets its taken during the 1962 model year. The park lights in the grille on the Transtar waaaaaaaaay in the background are clear, not amber like they were in 1963. (Unless the lenses aren't installed yet. Got a magnifying glass, Richard?)

Craig


The parking light lenses were amber on 1963-64 Champs, too.:) LH

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clonelark
01-05-2010, 06:47 AM
No one has mentioned the radiator rack on the left side.

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