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I won't argue that cars aren't safer nowdays, BUT... a piece of guardrail like that - striking like this piece did - it would've gone straight thru a 2009 whatever in exatly the same fashion. And Dr. Marie would STILL be dead. Crumple zones and air bags would be neutered in this case.[B)]
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door
No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.
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Hello Mr. Biggs. A horrific accident. One wonders what, if any, sort of end treatment was used with this guardrail or whether rub rail channel was installed under the w-beam. On today's roads a run of rail exposed to highway speed traffic would have some sort of crash attenuation device installed. But in the end it's all physics!
Allan - Ontario, Canada
1963 GT Hawk
1964 Daytona Convertible
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As a firefighter for 32 years, I always cringe at photos like these; I sometimes dread having to look in a smashed car and see what we need to do. At least w/seatbelt use, airbags, etc., I see a lot less bad stuff now, than when I first started in 1977.
Interesting photos, though: sort of "anti-eye candy"!
Bruce Newell
Yakima Wa.
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Originally posted by Mr.Biggs
I won't argue that cars aren't safer nowdays, BUT... a piece of guardrail like that - striking like this piece did - it would've gone straight thru a 2009 whatever in exatly the same fashion. And Dr. Marie would STILL be dead. Crumple zones and air bags would be neutered in this case.[B)]
I agree, Bob, but...these from a recent email, apparently they survived, but I have zero of an idea how:
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quote:Originally posted by newoldstude
I got in a wreck about a yr ago and broke me leg thanks to the new safe cars.Airbags suck,cars are made like soda cans now a days.We weren't going but 35 when it happened to and I car looked like the one in the pic.
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Tom - Mulberry, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2161.27)
1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)
Tom - Bradenton, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD
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Mebbe we all need to just remember that new cars are designed and engineered around crash-worthiness and ALL old cars were not. Period, end of discussion.
I'm not sure how protracted discussions on this subject promote the hobby. Mebbe more productive and timely discussions, in the "Stove Huggers" forum, should be about how many passengers, especially children, have been killed in a relatively minor wreck by modern vehicle safety devices. This is a current, very serious problem and hopefully all are well aware of how to avoid the dangers involved.
In ANY event, I dunno how anyone could predict the outcome of a wreck, even with the benefit of a thorough NTSB type investigation, prior to the event. I dunno what the number of variables are in a wreck, but I believe they would be more involved than allowing a casual declaration that death would be the automatic outcome in an old car....
Sonny
http://RacingStudebakers.com
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From the looks of the angle; I'm thinking it was a six cylinder car. it doesn't seem like there's room in there for a V8. If she would have had a wider engine in there, the rail might have gone past her and out thru the driver's door and she could have survived...dang.. she coulda had a V-8.
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We had a 66 Mustang around 1978. When we were rear-ended in the rain by a plow-nosed mid-Sixties full-sized Pontiac we discovered that the Mustang was configured just like the rear-end exploding Pinto. The rear bumper really hangs on sheet metal, and its mounting bolts punch two neat holes into the gas tank behind it. The filler neck can shear off. The rear quarter panels get shoved over the rear edge of the front doors, trapping you inside with all that gas spilling in back. I suspect the Maverick was the same as the Mustang and Pinto in this respect, but you will never hear Ford admit that the problem went on for years, even before the Pinto. It was good that it was raining that day, except that the rain was the cause of the collision: the two little turn signal indicators (slots in the hood facing the driver) let rain run down onto the engine, making it prone to stall in the rain. We have indeed come a long way, but it depends on whether you are hit by a squishy new car or you hit a hard, fixed object.
Regards,
Clarence
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quote:Originally posted by Mark57
I'm still trying to figure out why a person would want to buy these photos? [?]
P.S. HUB, you sure know how to serve up some lousy tasting eye candy![xx(] I hope you don't bake often!
Straight from the horse's mouthWhirling dervish of misinformation.
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My better half does all the baking in this house!
Hard to imagine these photos finding a buyer but then again I knew a chap who drove truck back in the 50's and 60's and he had an album full of snapshots he'd taken of accidents he'd come upon while driving. To each his own I guess!
I've bought a few Stude related photos over the years but this is too morbid for my tastes.
Allan - Ontario, Canada
1963 GT Hawk
1964 Daytona Convertible
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