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63larkcustom
01-28-2007, 06:33 PM
On my 62 Wagon, I've noticed that when driving down the road, it tends to wander a bit. The steering is tight and all front bushings are good. When the road surface is uneven, the car seems to get a little squirrely. The car has the bias ply wide white walls. Is this normal for the car?
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Bob Sporner
Palm Springs, California

N8N
01-28-2007, 06:50 PM
Have you had the alignment checked? I'd put some caster into the alignment, more than the factory calls for, to make it a little more stable.

nate

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63larkcustom
01-28-2007, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the input Nate.

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Bob Sporner
Palm Springs, California

John Kirchhoff
01-28-2007, 07:37 PM
As Nate said, I'd get the alignment checked. Sounds like it could be negative camber resulting from wear and compression of the bushings and springs. My Hawk acted the same way and after correcting the camber, it also steered easier (that was before I installed power steering).

Blue 15G
01-28-2007, 08:34 PM
What condition are your tires in? With the old bias-ply tires, once they have some wear, even small road irregularities cause some pull and "squirelliness" (is that a word?) ;)

Swifster
01-28-2007, 08:36 PM
I'll second the tires. Bias ply tires tend to follow any irregularities in the road surface. I'd still have the alignment done, but if everything checks out, get a set of radials.

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Roscomacaw
01-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Two words: Radial Tires. :)

Miscreant adrift in
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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

63larkcustom
01-28-2007, 10:44 PM
thanks guys!

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Bob Sporner
Palm Springs, California

stuvw2mny
01-31-2007, 10:27 AM
Yes, bias ply tires tend to wander a little especially older or stiff ones or after they have been sitting for awhile. Another factor is the narrow wheels they are mounted on - 4" stock on many Studes. If you are not a originality phreak look for some dodge or ford 5 or 5-1/2" wheels. I think there were some Studebaker 4-1/2" or 5" wheels, also. Radials tires are definite improvements.

Another factor, often overlooked, is the condition of the rear springs, especially the grommets, both front and rear. Looseness there or worn shackles will also tend to make the car wander. It should be pretty cheap to replace them. Also watch for noticeable difference in the rear spring arch.

I am taking you at your word about the front suspension. Have you gone through and checked that EVERY bolt/nut and/or fitting on the suspension is tight?

63larkcustom
01-31-2007, 01:41 PM
found the culprits.... the rear shocks are missing the isolators.. and one rear spring has bad shackles. The tires are going to be replaces with radials as I found the receipt...They have been on since 1995.

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Bob Sporner
Palm Springs, California

63larkcustom
02-09-2007, 12:45 AM
Thanks for the tips on the tires, etc. Two days ago I had new tranny mounts installed. Today new radials. Both significantly helped Bertha to stay in a straight line. While she was up in the air, found the bellcrank to be very worn. So.. next project.. front suspension. Planning on doing the bellcrank, springs, shocks and lower bushings. That should put her in top shape suspension wise. As a side note.. when is the LA meet?

Alan
02-09-2007, 12:12 PM
March 17, at the Peterson Museum. 6060 Wilshire Blvd.

showbizkid
02-09-2007, 01:10 PM
Hey Bob, be sure to keep us updated on your progress. I need to do the front end in my Lark as well and need all the info I can get! :D


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Roscomacaw
02-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Bob, there's a pinch bolt that holds that bellcrank to the pivot shaft. Check and see if that bolt's tight.
One thing that does in those pivots is the fact that the zerk fitting that greases it is hidden in a hole in the backside of that front crossmember. Consequently, it gets missed by the average lube jockey.[xx(] OF COURSE, even average "lube jockeys" are a rarity nowdays. Nowdays a "lube job" means oil and a filter and that's it!:(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

sbca96
02-09-2007, 02:44 PM
I went to one at the Peterson Museum years ago in my Hawk. I dont know
if I trust the Avanti enough to trek all the way to L.A. yet. Even if
I got the power steering done this weekend, its got "low" oil pressure
so I am not sure about it. Then there are the leaking core plugs ....
Would be nice to go though.

Tom


quote:Originally posted by Alan

March 17, at the Peterson Museum. 6060 Wilshire Blvd.

63larkcustom
02-10-2007, 12:44 AM
Thanks for the help Mr. Biggs, The bolt was a little loose. I think just for safety's sake, I'm gonna order a rebuilt bellcrank from SI as well as the new springs.. wanna get Bertha up off the ground.. She's a bit too low. So far, in the past few weeks, new tranny/motor mounts, rear shocks, new radials, new points, coil, plugs, wires, condenser and rotors. Those radials sure made a huge difference in how the Bertha takes the road.