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herbpcpa
11-24-2009, 10:19 AM
What percentage of the Avanti IIs built were equipped with 4-speed clutch transmissions? I am betting the percentage was low.

studeken
11-24-2009, 10:59 AM
during my time on the line {10/73 to 4/75} only two crossed my rack. Not sure, but I think the new smog regs, catalytic converters,etc, they were discontinued for quite a few years.

Ken Pyle

Gunslinger
11-24-2009, 12:00 PM
I've never seen figures, but it was supposedly quite low in percentage of cars. I would think primarily most were installed during the early years of production when the car was more performance oriented as opposed to luxury or cruising oriented. It was during that time that Hurst came out with a shifter kit for the Avanti. Avanti Motors discontinued the option sometime during the early to mid 1970's due to low demand and the expense of California and Federal emissions certifications.




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Skip Lackie
11-24-2009, 01:47 PM
What Gunslinger said. I have a 74 with 4-speed, which was one of the last (if not THE last) one built until 1983. There were quite a few built with 4-speeds in the first years. By the early 70s, only a few a year. The new emissions and fuel economy regs that took effect on January 1, 1975 required car manufacturers to build one of each engine/trans combination for the EPA to test. Avanti couldn't afford to give two cars away to the EPA each year, so they dropped the 4-speed.

Eventually, the law was changed to allow small manufacturers to piggy back on the engine manufacturer's emissions results, and Steve Blake built a few with 4-speeds in 1983-84.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

GEEMAC
11-24-2009, 04:57 PM
I HAVE THE LAST ONE BUILT IN 73 WITH A SB-400&4-SPEED,BUT HAVE NOW CHANGED IT TO A 700R4,75 YRS YOUNG GOT TO WHERE MY KNEE STARTED TO WOBBLE HOLDING IN THAT 1300LB CLUTCH, NICE DRIVER NOW. mac

53k
11-25-2009, 08:16 AM
quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie

What Gunslinger said. I have a 74 with 4-speed, which was one of the last (if not THE last) one built until 1983. There were quite a few built with 4-speeds in the first years. By the early 70s, only a few a year. The new emissions and fuel economy regs that took effect on January 1, 1975 required car manufacturers to build one of each engine/trans combination for the EPA to test. Avanti couldn't afford to give two cars away to the EPA each year, so they dropped the 4-speed.
Eventually, the law was changed to allow small manufacturers to piggy back on the engine manufacturer's emissions results, and Steve Blake built a few with 4-speeds in 1983-84.

My memory is faulty, but it sticks in my mind that the manual shift cars that Steve Blake built were five speeds. I think Roger Penn was talking that up at the Washington Auto Show in '84 or '85.



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Skip Lackie
11-25-2009, 08:59 AM
Paul-
Well, my memory isn't any better than yours, so I'll defer to your recollection. And a 5-speed makes more sense for 1983 anyway.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Laemmle
11-25-2009, 03:11 PM
My '67 had 4-speed. Car now owned by Fred Munch of Virgina.