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mbstude
11-05-2009, 03:57 PM
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/53_coupe.jpg

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

Milaca
11-05-2009, 04:20 PM
It would have been a direct competitor to a Chevy Corvette and later the Thunderbird that came out for 1955. It would look good with a convertible top. Is this a Studebaker prototype?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_t.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.
MN iron ore...it does your body good.

Invalid User Name
11-05-2009, 04:28 PM
The outline sure looks familiar. I don't know if it's the new BMW coupe or some other car, but that sure looks like something I've seen lately.

Doug

Venice, Florida
1950 Champion 9G F1

studegary
11-05-2009, 04:38 PM
It looks like one of Bob Bourke's 1/4 scale design models from 1950.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

JBOYLE
11-05-2009, 04:40 PM
A 60s Renault Alpine (IIRC..or was it the Gordini?) had a side "cove" (for want of a better word) like we see on this and the 53-on C-Ks.
And it also looks a bit like a Sunbeam Alpine from the side.
The wrap-around rear window is a bit like a TR-4 with the "Surry" top (what we'd call a Targa today) with the fixed rear window and removable top.

Great designs inspire others...

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Milaca
11-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Hers's the modern day version of it, a 2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
http://image.motortrend.com/f/31162359+w750/2010-mercedes-benz-SLS-AMG-side-2.jpg
I like the look of this M-B, but I think the 1953 Studebaker prototype looks better.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_t.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.
MN iron ore...it does your body good.

studegary
11-05-2009, 07:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

A 60s Renault Alpine (IIRC..or was it the Gordini?) had a side "cove" (for want of a better word) like we see on this and the 53-on C-Ks.
And it also looks a bit like a Sunbeam Alpine from the side.
The wrap-around rear window is a bit like a TR-4 with the "Surry" top (what we'd call a Targa today) with the fixed rear window and removable top.

Great designs inspire others...



The side sweep on 1953-1956 Studebakers was patterned/fashioned after the Duesenberg sweep-panel. It was thought to be necessary to strengthen and quiet the flat panel (later removed).

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

JRoberts
11-05-2009, 08:45 PM
I like the shorter wheelbase, but the roof line seems somehow out of poportion. Maybe it is too "pointy" at the top. I really don't see the relation in the looks of this Stude and the Mercedes or the Alpine. The cove does resemble somewhat the cove on the Renault.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

sals54
11-05-2009, 10:01 PM
How about that cool 53 with a new "gentleman's chop"?????
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm197/sals54/img153.jpg

sals54
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm197/sals54/NewSignature.jpg

LarkR2Clone
11-05-2009, 10:28 PM
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/LarkR2Clone/IMG_0052.jpg
Like this one here?
My uncle bought this one in az.

Milaca
11-05-2009, 11:16 PM
James, how many Studebakers are in that yard? Is the owner of the yard a member of the club?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_t.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.
MN iron ore...it does your body good.

TedsHawk
11-05-2009, 11:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by LarkR2Clone

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/LarkR2Clone/IMG_0052.jpg
Like this one here?
My uncle bought this one in az.

I like that, would be one to restore, would be fun to show up in that at a show!

1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

Chris Pile
11-05-2009, 11:51 PM
MAN! Look at all that South Bend iron!

Chris Pile
Editor: The Studebaker Special
http://midwaystudebakers.tripod.com/

StudeDave57
11-06-2009, 12:01 AM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

James, how many Studebakers are in that yard? Is the owner of the yard a member of the club?
There are many. No tellin' just how many, I'd bet.
I'd also bet "yes" an SDC member owns them all~
for now... [:0] ;)

The name 'Chuck' comes to mind.
(no- not that one~ the other one in AZ...)


StudeDave '57 [8D]

StudeMichael
11-06-2009, 08:00 AM
What is that R2? Do you have any more pics?

DEEPNHOCK
11-06-2009, 08:15 AM
That's pretty neat (and a lot of work)
Using the back half of a 4 door sedan and grafting the doors together.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/IMG_0052.jpg

What's neat to me is to see the ingenuity of the Studebaker designers, who were forced to create designs that could be done with existing stamping dies (or minimally modified ones)
Note the side body panel curveature profiles.
What are the odds they would line up like that (sedan to coupe).

Also...
Imagine the flow throug ventilation possibilities with dual vent windows like that...
It would either make you deaf, or suck the dandruff off your head[:0].
Jeff[8D]

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/1937CEBearfootingArtwithLabelgif-1.jpghttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/SDClogo4forum.jpghttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/StudebakerTruckFarmerStickerA-1.jpghttp://www.racingstudebakers.com/avatar_01.jpghttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/GatorDadBigjpg-1-1.jpg

http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock

woodysrods
11-06-2009, 08:16 AM
Looks like a Borgward. But is it a proto Stude??

Brian Woods
woodysrods@shaw.ca
1946 M Series (Shop Truck)
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae283/woodysrods/Concunully004.jpg

bridgegaurd
11-06-2009, 08:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

The outline sure looks familiar. I don't know if it's the new BMW coupe or some other car, but that sure looks like something I've seen lately.

Resembles Volvo sports coupe (volvo had better lines)

showbizkid
11-06-2009, 12:23 PM
There's a lot of photo retouching in that b/w photo. Interesting though!


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com

StudeRich
11-06-2009, 01:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

That's pretty neat (and a lot of work)
Using the back half of a 4 door sedan and grafting the doors together.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/IMG_0052.jpg
What's neat to me is to see the ingenuity of the Studebaker designers, who were forced to create designs that could be done with existing stamping dies (or minimally modified ones)
Note the side body panel curveature profiles.
What are the odds they would line up like that (sedan to coupe).

Jeff [8D]

You know- it just hit me...
I looked at that pic a bunch last night and thought about all the work that went into getting that Y body glass into that door.
Looking at it this morning I'm thinking that it's all sedan!!!
Look at the windshield again- no C/K is that flat and/or tall.

I'd like to see more pics of it too!!!


StudeDave '57 [8D]

tbredehoft
11-06-2009, 03:18 PM
It looks as if a 4 door lark was sectioned, removing the front half of the rear door, the B pillar and the back half of the front door, and all other body panels between, floor and roof.

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Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe (since 1959)
'55 President (6H Y6) State Sedan
....On the road, again....
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

LarkR2Clone
11-06-2009, 07:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

What is that R2? Do you have any more pics?


The R2 is my clone 63 daytona with 4 speed.
I have lots of pics of the daytona but only the two of the 53

James

LarkR2Clone
11-06-2009, 07:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

James, how many Studebakers are in that yard? Is the owner of the yard a member of the club?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_t.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.
MN iron ore...it does your body good.


I really do not know how many are in the yard but yes its out in AZ

DieselJim
11-07-2009, 08:37 PM
For the story on Chuck Naugle, see TW, May 2007.There are a few more pictures. Jim

8E45E
11-07-2009, 09:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
Imagine the flow throug ventilation possibilities with dual vent windows like that...
It would either make you deaf, or suck the dandruff off your head


There were a few early 60's Maserati 3500 GT's with dual vent windows like that on the doors.

http://pages.infinit.net/amphilot/images/images/maserati1.htm

Craig

Chris_Dresbach
11-08-2009, 12:41 AM
James: So thats the pic you were talking about this morning! Dang, where do you find these things?!:)[?]

Chris Dresbach

Chris_Dresbach
11-08-2009, 12:48 AM
Know what?... Those are two completely different (if they are prototypes) prototypes. The one in the black and white pic has a longer top section and if you notice, the rear fender parts are all smooth in line with the door, the windows are also "streached." The color pic has a "bump" after the door and looks like it has a regular ol' ultra vista windshield on the back. Thats some cool stuff though, sure would like to know more of the history behind them.:)

Chris Dresbach

Chris_Dresbach
11-08-2009, 12:50 AM
quote:Originally posted by LarkR2Clone

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/LarkR2Clone/IMG_0052.jpg
Like this one here?
My uncle bought this one in az.


And I thouht that Tom K. had alot of cars! WOW![:0]

Chris Dresbach

StudeDave57
11-08-2009, 02:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by Chris_Dresbach

Know what?... Those are two completely different (if they are prototypes) prototypes. Chris Dresbach
You could be right. [:0] ;) [:o)]

One looks to be a 'rendering', one is REAL.

One is of a K body, one is (was) a SEDAN!!! ;)

Nice rides both would/could be...


StudeDave '57 [8D]

zoegrant
12-11-2009, 04:33 PM
it looks like a Kaiser Darin side profile to me...John [^]
quote:Originally posted by Invalid User Name

The outline sure looks familiar. I don't know if it's the new BMW coupe or some other car, but that sure looks like something I've seen lately.

Doug

Venice, Florida
1950 Champion 9G F1

dean pearson
12-11-2009, 06:00 PM
So do I understand this right?
That car is just sitting in a field / Junk (pardon the term) yard in Az.

Why on earth hasn't someone bought and restored it?
As a minimum it should be stored indoors to prevent further degradation.

That is a very nice car and would hate to think it is just sitting there rotting.

Dean.

COMMANDERPINK1
12-11-2009, 08:16 PM
I remember this gentlemans name ( Chuck Naugle ) brought up before in a conversation, isnt he in the Tucsan area and does he sell anything out of his collection and how does one get in contact with Chuck?

Tom

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx240/TOMLSEXTON/Iowa036.jpg

DieselJim
12-11-2009, 09:21 PM
The car is in the possision of my brother-inlaw in Maricopa Az. It started out as a 54 sedan. The frame has been shortened in front of the rear spring hangers. Chuck has been selling some of his cars. E-Mail me what you are interested in and I will relay the message. Jim

LStratton
12-13-2009, 10:34 PM
I thought this info would be appropiate for this thread. Please bear with me...kind of long winded.
I was an SDC member from 1968 thru 2000, owning many Studebakers and always on the hunt for more cars, memorabilia, info or anything Studebaker. I was passionate. I dropped my membership for various reasons that I should probably not discuss here.
Back to my point. In the early 70's I meet a person named Bob Temple (Bob may not have been his first name but I'm positive about Temple). At the time I meet him he was employed here in Longmont, CO at Chapperal Industries as a designer for snowmobiles. He communicated to me that he worked for Studebaker Corp. many years in the design department. He said he was the person responsible for the design of the 1960 Champ pickup. I told him that wasn't much of a design (mostly Lark) and his response was that was all they could do with the budget they had to work with.
I spent many hours at his house, conversing and looking at factory photos and design drawings. The most interesting thing I found was photos and drawings of a 1955 prototype that was to compete with the T-bird and Corvette. This was over 35 years ago but if memory serves me it looked alot like the first picture in this tread. He told me that there was one prototype made but the top brass at Studebaker would never approve production. Mr. Temple went on to say that he owned this prototype for many years but eventually had to sell it when making a move across country. At the time I spent considerable time trying to locate this car but never had any luck.
Chapperal Industries closed in 1974 0r 75 and Mr. Temple disappeared.
Along with his disappearence went all those wonderful documents. Well, Mr. Temple eventually turned up in the North West USA (Oregon or Washington). I believe after Mr. Temple moved to the Northwest he became friends with Art Unger. I believe Art seen the same thing I did and may have more info and a better memory. If I remember correctly Art did an article about Mr. Temple in Turning Wheels probably in the 80's. I can't go back and check back issues as I disposed of everything Studebaker in 2000...I was very bitter.
I have no idea if this prototype has ever turned up or if anyone has any further info, if so I would love to see it or hear about it.
Very sorry if things are not quite as I remember them...it's been alot of years.
Lyle Stratton
A few of the Studebakers that I once owned
1928 Commander coupe
1955 Speedster
1956 Sky Hawk
1957 Golden Hawk
1959 Lark 2dr Wagon - National 1st place winner 1972
1963 GT
1963 Avanti R-1
1964 Daytona Conv. R-1
1964 Pickup 5 speed O/D 11,000 original miles

barnlark
12-13-2009, 11:51 PM
Lyle, welcome back. You are someone who will be highly valued here for your knowledge. Thank you for coming back into the Studebaker world. Please have patience on this Forum with us..there are many here who love soaking up longtime remembered, accurate stories. Please check in often.

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Johnnywiffer
12-14-2009, 10:24 AM
quote:Originally posted by DieselJim

The car is in the possision of my brother-inlaw in Maricopa Az. It started out as a 54 sedan.I lightened it a little and from the instrument panel, (not that it matters) looks like a '53, not '54. Or maybe he just liked the '53 pods better than the '54 smoothie.

Still a neat car.

John