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studeclunker
10-16-2009, 12:18 AM
Okay, did they offer the OverDrive on the '66 models, and if so, is this the kick-down switch (in the purplish blotch)?

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8E45E
10-16-2009, 12:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3]Okay, did they offer the OverDrive on the '66 models, and if so, is this the kick-down switch (in the purplish blotch)?



Yes, overdrive was an option on '66's. Do you have the chrome OD lockout under your dash next to the hood release?

Craig

studeclunker
10-16-2009, 12:56 AM
Uh... it's not one of mine, Craig. The car in question is also in Minnesota. So, not much chance for me to inspect.;) I just thought I saw a kick-down switch, but it was in the wrong place. Then again... this is not a Studebaker engine.

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candbstudebakers
10-19-2009, 11:00 AM
Since the 65 and 66 cars with the chevy V-8 use a different style of gas peddle the switch would need to be some place other than where you would see it on the study engine, they use a cable style system to pull the carb. lever..bob

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Roscomacaw
10-19-2009, 05:29 PM
Yes, they did offer OD in 65 & 66. I saw a V8 65 wagon so equipped. That IS an OD switch in the purple haze.[^]

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Warren Webb
10-20-2009, 08:04 AM
My 66 came with V-8 & overdrive but since the trans went out & I had a spare 4 speed, thats whats in it now.

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2R5
10-20-2009, 06:26 PM
We just picked up a '66 daytona today that has V8 and 3spd OD on it . It actually belongs to the other guy I just helped with that loading .;)



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DEEPNHOCK
10-20-2009, 06:56 PM
Yes... It [u]IS</u> a Studebaker engine.
It is just not a Studebaker foundry casting.
But Studebaker chose it as a vendor item, and put it in their product line OEM.
Y'all should be ashamed of continually castigating a very legitimate period of Studebaker history.



quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Uh... it's not one of mine, Craig. The car in question is also in Minnesota. So, not much chance for me to inspect.;) I just thought I saw a kick-down switch, but it was in the wrong place. Then again... this is not a Studebaker engine.

Warren Webb
10-20-2009, 07:01 PM
2R5... I was told that there were around 50 or so Daytona V-8's with overdrive made. Sounds like you have a rare one there also! I believe I got that info from Art Unger if memory is correct. (that was the Daytona Sport Sedan model he was referring to)

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2R5
10-20-2009, 07:11 PM
Well its too bad because this car is just a parts car now ...its very much beyond any kind of restoration but I'm sure the owner will save these parts for a future use.



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hotrodstude
10-20-2009, 09:16 PM
do scare an old ford man that way when i read 66 thunderbolt my mine turned to the 64 ford fairlane thunderbolts. they did not make an 66 but anything is possible.

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COMMANDERPINK1
10-20-2009, 09:44 PM
Thanks DEEPNHOCK this continually needs to to reminded as many of mine are 66 models

studeclunker
10-21-2009, 12:42 PM
No, Jeff, they are most certainly NOT Studebaker motors! Not that such a thing is any a criticism of the '65 or '66 models. They have their own virtues that are unique to them. There's no point being silly or unrealistic about them though. Frankly, I've mentioned several times that the '66 is one of my favourite Lark types. The Cleveland powerplant is no disadvantage to me. Quite the contrary. In fact, had I the money, I'd be bidding on the subject sedan myself.;)

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DEEPNHOCK
10-21-2009, 01:32 PM
Where does Cleveland enter into this?[?]
Ron,
You are wrong.
You could not order ANY Studebaker car in 1965 and 1966 with a Studebaker cast 289 engine.
(I left 1964 out because it was a split year as far as the Studebaker cast 289 product being used up).
And it IS a Studebaker engine.
Using your statement, the Powershift transmission is not a Stude transmission because it was made by Borg Warner, and a 44 differential is not Studebaker because it was made by Dana.
You need to re-think your dislike of this Studebaker chosen choice of powerplant.
It is a legitamate Studebaker offering.
Your criticism is misplaced.
While there is a definite preference for the Studebaker produced 259/289/304 powerplant.... It should not be done with the denigration of other legitimate Studebaker offerings.
Yes, that is my opinion.....
I'll stick with it.
I love [u]ALL</u> Studebakers....Even the mongrels[:p]
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

No, Jeff, they are most certainly NOT Studebaker motors! Not that such a thing is any a criticism of the '65 or '66 models. They have their own virtues that are unique to them. There's no point being silly or unrealistic about them though. Frankly, I've mentioned several times that the '66 is one of my favourite Lark types. The Cleveland powerplant is no disadvantage to me. Quite the contrary. In fact, had I the money, I'd be bidding on the subject sedan myself.;)

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studeclunker
10-21-2009, 02:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Where does Cleveland enter into this?[?]


As I understand it, the Cleveland (G.M. or Chevy) motors were chosen for the '65-6 production as they were the most compatible to the Studebaker drivetrain.

quote:Ron,
You are wrong.
You could not order ANY Studebaker car in 1965 and 1966 with a Studebaker cast 289 engine.
(I left 1964 out because it was a split year as far as the Studebaker cast 289 product being used up).

Yes, this is common knowledge. Your point is[?]


quote:And it IS a Studebaker engine.

On this, Jeff, we will have to agree to dis-agree. I would guess here, that the majority of studebaker owners/members would disagree with you. I will agree that they are Original Factory equipment, necessitated by the shutdown of South Bend operations. But no, they are a G.M. product in a Studebaker automobile.


quote:Using your statement, the Powershift transmission is not a Stude transmission because it was made by Borg Warner, and a 44 differential is not Studebaker because it was made by Dana.
You need to re-think your dislike of this Studebaker chosen choice of powerplant.

Now, here, you are using your opinion to put words into my mouth. Also, I don't believe I've ever, in any way, expressed a dis-like of the '66 models. In fact, just the opposite.

As to the rear and transmission, they have the advantage of also being used in Fords, and possibly some G.M. models as well. So, again, what's your point?


quote:It is a legitamate Studebaker offering.
Your criticism is misplaced.
While there is a definite preference for the Studebaker produced 259/289/304 powerplant.... It should not be done with the denigration of other legitimate Studebaker offerings.
Yes, that is my opinion.....
I'll stick with it.
I love [u]ALL</u> Studebakers....Even the mongrels[:p]
Jeff[8D]


I've never said the 'ChevyBakers'[:o)] were illegatimate in any way. Likewise the Packardbakers (my personal favourites). You are assuming a criticisim or denigration where none is implied or said. Once again, using your own assumptions and opinions to put words in my mouth. Nonetheless, you are entirely welcome to whatever assumptions and opinions you wish.;):D



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DEEPNHOCK
10-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Actually, it is the St. Catherines engine plant (not Cleveland AFAIK).
The GM engine plant in St. Catherines is just down the road (figuratively) from Hamilton.

No sweat on the disagreement.
When you (or someone else) tee's up that subject...
Just expect the ball to be hit backatcha[:p]
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by studeclunker
As I understand it, the Cleveland (G.M. or Chevy) motors were chosen for the '65-6 production as they were the most compatible to the Studebaker drivetrain.
[quote]quote:Ron,
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Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

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Mark57
10-21-2009, 05:09 PM
We could also get into a discussion about the Detroit Diesels used in the 7E & 8E series trucks and the Hercules powerplants in the pre WWII trucks... [}:)];) But that would be "off topic".[:0]:D

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2R5
10-21-2009, 05:20 PM
Jeff , they were engines out of the McKinnon plant in St Catherines and it is "just down the road" from Hamilton....takes about 20 min or so to get there.
Where this Cleveland thing come from ???[xx(]





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