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Flashback
09-24-2009, 10:22 PM
I need a oil bath air cleaner for my 53 commander coupe.
Anyone have one for sale?

Tex E. Grier
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rockne10
09-24-2009, 10:25 PM
I've got a spare dry filter.

silverhawk
09-24-2009, 11:34 PM
I'm pretty far away from you, but I got a oil bath air cleaner from a '58 commander. If you would like, I can go look at what kind of condition its in. Just shoot me a email if your interested.

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

rockne10
09-24-2009, 11:41 PM
I don't think a '58 Commander unit would fit under the hood of a '53 Coupe.[:0]
This is where our parts catalogs would come in handy.

silverhawk
09-24-2009, 11:50 PM
Thanks Mr.Johnson, I don't got a parts catolog for those years, so it was a guess. I don't use them (caso lark owner,LOL) personally, as I have a lark.

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

Flashback
09-25-2009, 07:17 AM
Thanks, for the response guys. I have a dry type.
The part # is 533058 for the wet (oil bath). This
fits 53-54, but I don't have the parts # for newer,
and don't know what years are the same. The C/K is
different in 53-54. Can anybody help with what years
will fit? Thanks

Tex E. Grier
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53k
09-25-2009, 09:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by Flashback

I need a oil bath air cleaner for my 53 commander coupe.
Anyone have one for sale?

I'm just mildly curious why you would want an oil bather cleaner. The dry type is much neater. I replaced my '53 oil bath cleaner many years ago with the dry type.




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Flashback
09-25-2009, 09:35 AM
The reason I want a oil bath is: When I bought my 53 coupe,
it had a oil bath with it. I wanted a dry type, just for the
reasons you stated. So, I found one, anf gave away the oil bath.
I later learned, the reason for the oil bath, was for hood
clearence with the carb setup.

Tex E. Grier
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wolfie
09-25-2009, 09:38 AM
What Flashback said. I have at least one extra for a 53 champion (6 cyl) if it could be made to work for you. I dont know what the difference is but maybe someone here will offer up that info. Steve

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53k
09-25-2009, 01:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by Flashback

The reason I want a oil bath is: When I bought my 53 coupe,
it had a oil bath with it. I wanted a dry type, just for the
reasons you stated. So, I found one, anf gave away the oil bath.
I later learned, the reason for the oil bath, was for hood
clearence with the carb setup.

Understood. But, I haven't had any clearance problem with the dry type. I still have the old oil bath unit, but I kind of hate to get rid of it as it is listed on the production order.



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Flashback
09-25-2009, 02:35 PM
My clearance problem is due to the fact my car has a
offenhauser kit that uses a stromberg 4 barrel, and
when I got the car the hood was not on. I got rid of
a oil bath cleaner, because I didn't know it had the
extra hood clearance it needed. Now afer fireing up,
after two years, I find out I have to use the oil bath
for it to be "correct". I could modify a dry type, but,
I am trying to put it back as it was when the kit was
installed. please see my post "back to 53- who knows"

Tex E. Grier
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53k
09-25-2009, 06:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Flashback

My clearance problem is due to the fact my car has a
offenhauser kit that uses a stromberg 4 barrel, and
when I got the car the hood was not on. I got rid of
a oil bath cleaner, because I didn't know it had the
extra hood clearance it needed. Now afer fireing up,
after two years, I find out I have to use the oil bath
for it to be "correct". I could modify a dry type, but,
I am trying to put it back as it was when the kit was
installed. please see my post "back to 53- who knows"

I don't know anything about a Stromberg four-barrel, but I doubt if an original '53 Commander oil-bath air cleaner would fit it. The four-barrel throat should be considerably larger than a two-barrel. Does the throat open to the rear like the two-barrels? I think I have a four-barrel oil bath air cleaner, but it would only work with an upright throat.



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Alexander Feiman
09-25-2009, 06:23 PM
i have a oil bath air cleaner for 53-54 commander i'd swap it for a side draft stromberg 2 brl dry type if your interested

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Flashback
09-25-2009, 06:41 PM
I am intrested. I have a good, not mint dry type,
never been painted, with a few minor dings. I will
trade with you. Is the one you have correct for 53,
and in ok condition? I will send it if you will send
yours. E-mail if you would like. let me know and we
can agree on a deal. Thank you,

Tex E. Grier
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Flashback
09-25-2009, 06:45 PM
53K, the Stromberg was part of an offenhauser kit for 53 up
to ? Commanders. On the C/K bodies it included a air horn
adapter to adapt the air cleaner.

Tex E. Grier
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Flashback
09-27-2009, 01:12 PM
The members here are great. Once again coming through.
I am trading a dry a/cleaner for a wet type, thanks to
Alexander Feiman. Thanks, EVERYONE for the help I always
get here.

Tex E. Grier
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60Lark
09-27-2009, 01:19 PM
I have a an oil bath air cleaner used with a side draft Stromberg from a 56 Power Hawk

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mbstude
09-27-2009, 10:56 PM
Tex, what's your reasoning for this "Offenhauser kit"? I've never heard of such. Show me the documentation and prove me wrong, but I don't think anything such as that existed.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

Flashback
09-28-2009, 09:23 AM
Whoa Matthew, kinda strong there! I have no reason
to make this up. I will share the documentaion. I
Just wanted to see if any Stude people on here had
any knowledge or information. I am relatively new to
the forum, but I have had Studebakers for 50 years.
The first being a 53 Starlight. Are there only an
"accepted few" that know anything about Studebakers?













Tex E. Grier
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53k
09-28-2009, 09:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Flashback

Whoa Matthew, kinda strong there! I have no reason
to make this up. I will share the documentaion. I
Just wanted to see if any Stude people on here had
any knowledge or information. I am relatively new to
the forum, but I have had Studebakers for 50 years.
The first being a 53 Starlight. Are there only an
"accepted few" that know anything about Studebakers?

I have owned a '53K for 43 years and I have a lot of literature about the cars and I have never heard of the Offenhauser kit either, but I certainly don't doubt its existence. You convinced me. I learn something new about 53s and Studebakers every day. Sharing the documentation would be great, though, for future reference.







Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

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winchesterhawk
09-28-2009, 12:15 PM
Offenhauser sold a kit that included the bonnet for 51-55 cars. On the earlier cars the carb was to be installed backwards. I have the original instruction sheet.

53k
09-28-2009, 12:44 PM
See winchesterhawk's post. I am just posting the picture for him. I hope he posts more about this- pretty neat item

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mbstude
09-28-2009, 12:50 PM
Sorry Tex, didn't mean to come off as being harsh. I thought you were saying it was factory, and that was something I just couldn't grasp.;) That was my misunderstanding, though.

So it was a "kit" sold by Offy, then? If so, cool. [8D]

My uncle's '53 Studillac (331 Caddy engine) has that same bonnet, and the oil bath air filter mounted over on the inner fender. Even though the bonnet is VERY thin, I doubt if it's 1/4 of an inch from hitting the hood. So much for running dual 4 barrels. :D

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

Flashback
09-28-2009, 02:49 PM
Thanks winchesterhawk, and thanks for the picture 53k. I sure
would like to have a copy of that instruction sheet winchesterhawk.
can I e-mail ya?

Tex E. Grier
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winchesterhawk
09-28-2009, 02:53 PM
I will try and scan it tonight.

Flashback
09-28-2009, 02:55 PM
No Matthew, not factory, but in fact, they were available as dealer installed
kits. Some Stude dealers had the catalogues and part numbers, and they got a
special price from Offenhauser. And the modeling clay I used to check the hood
clearance told me 9/16" . Real close. Too close for the dry type a/cleaner.

Tex E. Grier
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53k
09-30-2009, 11:43 AM
Winchesterhawk sent me a copy of the Offenhauser manifold instructions, but it is a .pdf which I can't post. However, you can check it out on this url (well worth seeing).
http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/studebaker.pdf



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winchesterhawk
09-30-2009, 01:39 PM
Thanks Paul

winchesterhawk
10-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Tex, if your still looking for the offenhauser bonnet, I have located a few.