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    Ok guys, I am currently building a studebaker for a customer. I have a 289 from a 64 studebaker (that what the customer has told me.) I have a 3 speed manual with overdrive mating with it. In the manual I am looking through it shows a motor plate between the bellhousing and engine block, i do not have thing part and cannot locate it. Does anyone know where to find this. I can fab one if i have to but i need to know the thickness of the material used for the plate. I would rather buy one if anybody has one. Any help on this would be appreciated. I have built many streetrods, but some of this studebaker specific stuff is throwing me off.

    Thanks
    Lane

    Street Rod Concepts

  • #2
    There is no motor plate between the bellhousing and the engine block.
    There is a dust shield on the lower third of the bellhousing (below the block).
    This is made from some stiff metal (18 gauge sheet metal, IIRC)

    Don't sweat the Stude specific stuff..
    Just ask here, as there are a lot of Stude hot rodders that would much rather help you keep a Stude engine and trans in there than see you give up and toss in a belly button 350/350.

    HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)
    Jeff[8D]



    quote:Originally posted by StreetRodConcepts

    Ok guys, I am currently building a studebaker for a customer. I have a 289 from a 64 studebaker (that what the customer has told me.) I have a 3 speed manual with overdrive mating with it. In the manual I am looking through it shows a motor plate between the bellhousing and engine block, i do not have thing part and cannot locate it. Does anyone know where to find this. I can fab one if i have to but i need to know the thickness of the material used for the plate. I would rather buy one if anybody has one. Any help on this would be appreciated. I have built many streetrods, but some of this studebaker specific stuff is throwing me off.

    Thanks
    Lane

    Street Rod Concepts


    http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock
    HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

    Jeff


    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



    Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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    • #3
      You forgot to tell him to check the runout of the bellhousing.

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      • #4
        The way he phrased his question it seemed the trans setup was already mated with the engine, so I didn't add more work than neccessary.
        'If' he stated it had come from two different Stude's, I would have definitely added that as a 'must do'...
        Good point well taken though...
        Jeff[8D]


        quote:Originally posted by buddymander

        You forgot to tell him to check the runout of the bellhousing.
        HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

        Jeff


        Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



        Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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        • #5
          It just sounded like this project was being pieced together from different sources and the bellhousing alignment deal is something that nobody would ever question if they weren't familiar with studebakers. Plus it sounds like this guy wants to make sure he isn;t overlooking anything. Most mechanics I mention the bellhousing alignment deal to; I feel don't even believe me. And if it's a 64 engine, that it's going to have the oil filter mounted on the block like a chevy, and not up in front of the carb. And he's probably not expecting solid lifters and a gear drive cam. And lastly, the recommendation of petronix. Oops, forgot about the intake mod to 4 bbl.

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          • #6
            What year and model is the 289 going in?

            Is the 3 speed OD a BW T86?

            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA

            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA

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            • #7
              Lane, Glad you found us, I think you will find this group full of helpful information for you (we are full of other thing at time too! <G&gt. Please feel free to ask any other questions you come up with and we'd love to see some pictures too.

              One of my best friends is named Lane, but I bet she's a lot prettier than you! (no offense)

              Jeff DeWitt

              Jeff DeWitt
              http://carolinastudes.net

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              • #8
                Yes, we (as a shop) inherited this project and although not foreign to restoration, hot rods and street rods, this Studebaker has turned out to be a learning experience for me. I have a couple good sources, but non for the difficult things and am glad you guys are so helpful. First off let me tell you a little about the project:
                We are doing a 53 Studebake 2dr hardtop with the 64 289 w/ 3 speed trans and overdrive. We put a ford 9" rear end in it and are having a custom 2 piece drive-shaft made. We have made a few modern changes to the car (looked down on by some) We have added a vintage air super-cooler, and a "secret audio" stereo unit, all the while keeping everything hidden so that the dash still retains the stock look.
                The engine was given to us already overhauled, along with the transmission. i cannot remember if the two were mated or not but i am going to get right on the alignment of the bellhousing, i really appreciate the heads up on that. We strive to build a quality product so I want to make sure everything is correct on this car and is not going to cause problems in the future.
                I am going to go ahead and just make the dust shield for the bellhousing, bc in the time i spend searching, i could have made it and moved on. I really appreciate the help you guys have provided and am sure i will be cruising the forum in the future.

                Lane

                check out our website for a view at some of our work. No pictures of the Stude up there yet, but I will try and get some up as soon as possible.
                street-rod-concepts.com

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                • #9
                  Lane, I bet someone here has one of those shields, they are VERY common and it's almost always easier to bolt in a factory part than to fabricate something, and no doubt you have plenty of other things that need to be done!

                  Jeff DeWitt

                  Jeff DeWitt
                  http://carolinastudes.net

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                  • #10
                    I happen to have one of those dust shields I'll post a picture tomorrow.

                    Mabel 1949 Champion
                    Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
                    Gus 1958 Transtar
                    The Prez 1955 President State
                    Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
                    Daisy 1954 Commander Regal Coupe
                    Fresno,Ca
                    Mabel 1949 Champion
                    Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
                    Gus 1958 Transtar
                    The Prez 1955 President State
                    Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
                    Daisy 1954 Regal Commander Starlight Coupe
                    Fresno,Ca

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                    • #11
                      Not sure about what you are working on, or
                      what book you are using,
                      but I have never seen a plate that fits
                      between the engine and bellhousing on a
                      Studebaker V8. You might find a stamped
                      number just ahead of the valley cover that
                      might help to ID the engine.

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                      • #12
                        The only engine support plates were used on 63-64 Trucks with a 6 cyl. engine and the 8 bellhousing.

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                        • #13
                          I was referring to the dustcover for the bellhousing. I had one of the guys here at the shop fabbed one up this morning, but i appreciate all of the info and will be back for more!

                          I am currently posting some pictures onto our website of the studebaker.

                          Street-rod-concepts.com

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                          • #14
                            Looks like you guys are gonna do right by this thing!


                            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                            1963 Cruiser
                            1960 Larkvertible V8
                            1958 Provincial wagon
                            1953 Commander coupe
                            1957 President two door

                            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                            • #15
                              If you post the STAMPED engine serial number from the left front/top of the block, we can tell you what you have.

                              Gary L.
                              Wappinger, NY

                              SDC member since 1968
                              Studebaker enthusiast much longer
                              Gary L.
                              Wappinger, NY

                              SDC member since 1968
                              Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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