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Donald Keller
09-20-2009, 05:20 AM
wanted your thoughts on this one. is it worth the buy it now of 21500.?

58PackardWagon
09-20-2009, 08:43 AM
Absolutely not ! Not with the interior work that needs to be done. Everything looks to be original except for the mirrors on the fenders. They are in the right place, but not the correct mirrors. You must consider what it would cost for the interior paint work and the seats and door panels to be cleaned up and replaced. I would say that if you went through Phantom and a good local paint guy to make it perfect you would have about $4000 in the interior. Car should sell for around $12 k to 15 k (especially in this economy). I think the seller paid about 20k a few years ago when it was on ebay.

57 & 58 Packards and Larks

raoul5788
09-20-2009, 02:55 PM
Definitely not worth the asking price. I remember it on eBay. It went for about $21k. It needs a fair amount of work, although it looks like a nice daily driver. By the way, what is that bottle on the firewall? Do you know, Joe?


Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

Roscomacaw
09-20-2009, 03:19 PM
Barnlark, Here's a great example of the distorted taglite housing I was telling you about. The housing has the Clipper emblem in it's rearmost end, but it's front end nests into another piece of chrome that it swivels within (the taglite housing) as you lower the tailgate.
This housing - being made of pot metal - over the years, yields to the pressure of the big, coiled spring inside of it. This results in the bowed front edge you can see clearly here. This causes the taglite housing to scrape the other piece and mess up both. I want to flatten my housing and then cut a piece of steel plate to insert inside so the spring can't distort the housing. You follow?


By the way, that glass jar is a brake fluid resevoir that feeds the master cylinder.;)


http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/3e/06/7291_1_sbl.JPG

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

barnlark
09-20-2009, 05:14 PM
I'll have a better grasp of what it should look like when I see it. Not having looked at one close up on purpose, it's hard to see any distortion from that far away. Nice looking piece of unobtanium. Something that gets that much abuse with a heavy spring should not have been pot metal. Thanks for the good look.

raoul5788
09-20-2009, 06:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Barnlark, Here's a great example of the distorted taglite housing I was telling you about. The housing has the Clipper emblem in it's rearmost end, but it's front end nests into another piece of chrome that it swivels within (the taglite housing) as you lower the tailgate.
This housing - being made of pot metal - over the years, yields to the pressure of the big, coiled spring inside of it. This results in the bowed front edge you can see clearly here. This causes the taglite housing to scrape the other piece and mess up both. I want to flatten my housing and then cut a piece of steel plate to insert inside so the spring can't distort the housing. You follow?


By the way, that glass jar is a brake fluid resevoir that feeds the master cylinder.;)


http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/3e/06/7291_1_sbl.JPG

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door




Funny, the one on my '57 didn't do that. The enclosure is well pitted, but in decent shape other than that.


Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

Roscomacaw
09-20-2009, 06:46 PM
Chip, I think I have 3 of these (all used of course) and every one of them has the bulged out top. I got into the bidding on the two NOS ones that came on ebay in recent years, but when the bidding went past $200, I drew the line.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

raoul5788
09-20-2009, 07:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Chip, I think I have 3 of these (all used of course) and every one of them has the bulged out top. I got into the bidding on the two NOS ones that came on ebay in recent years, but when the bidding went past $200, I drew the line.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door




!!!!! Holy crap! I got an nos one from Chuck Collins for a lot less than that. I just went and checked my old one, and you are right about them! Mine is a bit bent, too. It's not too bad, if you want it.
It's a bit pitted, also, but I think it is replatable.


Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

58PackardWagon
09-20-2009, 09:02 PM
Chip the bottle is for brake fluid. Not original, it looks as though it would be easier to fill. I am currently looking for an example pic of what it looks like to have the rear emblem area filled with a piece of metal. I saw it on one car in South Bend and know I took a pic of it. It was on a 58 Packard Wagon.

57 & 58 Packards and Larks

raoul5788
09-21-2009, 09:04 AM
quote:Originally posted by 58PackardWagon

Chip the bottle is for brake fluid. Not original, it looks as though it would be easier to fill. I am currently looking for an example pic of what it looks like to have the rear emblem area filled with a piece of metal. I saw it on one car in South Bend and know I took a pic of it. It was on a 58 Packard Wagon.

57 & 58 Packards and Larks


For what those emblems go for on a '58 wagon I would try to find an alternative, too! ;)

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

raoul5788
09-26-2009, 09:00 AM
Well, it didn't make the reserve of $21,500. I think he should have lowered the reserve when it got to $18,000.

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

s2dwagon
09-26-2009, 12:08 PM
I think anything is worth what ever a buyer is willing to pay for it and anything is for sale at the right price.

Sometimes, on this forum, we are our own worst enemys when it comes to setting prices and yet, I hear/read complaints on how Studebaker prices are not in line with other makes.

Go figure.....

Scott

raoul5788
09-26-2009, 06:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by s2dwagon

I think anything is worth what ever a buyer is willing to pay for it and anything is for sale at the right price.

Sometimes, on this forum, we are our own worst enemys when it comes to setting prices and yet, I hear/read complaints on how Studebaker prices are not in line with other makes.

Go figure.....

Scott


Well, okay then, make me an offer on my wagon! ;)

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

Donald Keller
09-26-2009, 06:38 PM
hey chip will you take 20,000. for it?

Roscomacaw
09-26-2009, 06:43 PM
A hush falls over the room.........[:0]

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

raoul5788
09-26-2009, 07:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Donald Keller

hey chip will you take 20,000. for it?


Well, that's a generous offer, but that's about what I have into it. Anyway, I want to keep it for a little while, at least, so I can enjoy the proverbial fruits of my labor.


Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

raoul5788
10-26-2009, 09:03 AM
Don
I just saw the Mecum '57 Packard wagon went for $47,500! Care to up your offer? [}:)];):D

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

klifton1
10-26-2009, 10:01 AM
It was worth that or nearly that to two people at that time. Does that set the value of a Packard Wagon? Sometimes it's better to take the money and run.
Klif

55 Speedster
63 Avanti R2
63 Lark R2