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66daytonastud
09-03-2009, 11:06 PM
First off I'm not sure what to call the (collar/retaining plate)piece that holds the axle in with four bolt holes. So I will call it the retaining collar for Know.

I have different retaining collars: drivers side is non adjustable with [u]excessive</u> end play (1/8") Amazingly the bearings look to be ok, my dad was a quality control inspector for Dana for 30 years, I can remember him ranting and raving about guys over tightening wheel bearings, "thier designed to have a little play" he would say with a glare. But 1/8" is a lot!

passenger side is adjustable but damaged by the machine shop that was supposed to be checking to see if he would be able to press the bearings off and on. After considerable time waiting in the office he came back and said he couldnt help me. I didnt realize he had squashed the adjusting ring on 2 sides untill later at the local Napa (live and learn):( Regardless that side bolts up with minimal end play, but will probably never be adjusted again.


Is there some kind of shim that can be placed between the non adjustabe retaining plate and the outer bearing race to take up the play[?] Or do I have to get an adjustable retaining collar[?] And what are they really called, and where do I get one[?]

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66daytonastud
09-03-2009, 11:41 PM
I just had a thought. Is it possible someone put the bearings in backwards? And would it make a difference in the end play?

Which way is the outer race cup supposed to be facing? My outer race cups are facing inboard, or towards the diff.

The flat side of the outer races face outboard, or towards the wheel.

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66daytonastud
09-03-2009, 11:52 PM
After thinking about it again they must be right. If the race went into the axle tube it would be difficult to get out.

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gordr
09-04-2009, 12:32 AM
The end play for both axles is set at one axle, usually the right side. The right-hand axle bears against a floating spacer in the differential, and the spacer bears against the left axle.

I expect the adjustable retainer is available from some of our vendors.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

66daytonastud
09-04-2009, 01:05 AM
That makes sense, I guess I need to pop that bearing off to see if I can fix the adjustable retainer. Does power need to be applied when making the adjustment or between partial turns of the adjustable ring?

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StudeRich
09-04-2009, 01:26 AM
Do you know for certain if this is a TT (Twin Traction limited-slip axle) or not?

If it is, one of the tiny axle spacer "hats" on the inboard end of each axle may have fallen out of the TT unit and could be jamming the axle! [:0]

StudeRich

66daytonastud
09-04-2009, 01:35 AM
Are the TT's supposed to have a second tag on the Diff.

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StudeRich
09-04-2009, 01:51 AM
Yes of course, the first (on the Left is on all Dana axles for the ratio, the one on the right is usually a 45C,D or E indicating a TT with different ramp angles on the TT unit.

By removing the Oil fill plug, you will see the TT unit very close to the cover.

StudeRich

leyrret
09-04-2009, 05:52 AM
I believe Stephen Allen had the adjusters. Whoever ended up with his stock probably has them. You can probably use hardware & seal from a tapered axle and adjust with shims if you can't come up with adjuster. Mine had shims on the left side along with adjuster on right which could also be removed to tighten. I removed the bearing with a torch. If you burn down till a thin later remains it will split with a chisel. You would have to do opposite sides on the bearing (cut it in half). (Not recommended if you're not good with a torch). I then drove the lock rings off to save them for reuse as that particular size I had trouble finding. Stephen Allen also had these rings.. The bearing and ring can be driven on with a long piece of pipe or brass drift if your careful.

Tom B
09-04-2009, 09:21 AM
The inner races can be pulled with a slide hammer and a hook, if you're not handy with a torch.

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66daytonastud
09-04-2009, 10:23 AM
Some have asked if I have a manual. I have a pre 64 Studabaker Shop Manual, and a small 65 manual from the library. Of course the pre 64 doesn't cover the flanged axle, and the other says it has a rear suspension and axle section but it isn't there? The manual is only about an inch thick.

The bottom line is that I must have some issue if the axle is supposed to float, because I can only feel the play on the drivers side. How much force should it take to move the play from one side to the other? Should I be able to grab the axle flange with both arms and force the play to the other side, do I need to turn the axle, or maybe the pinion?

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66daytonastud
09-04-2009, 10:46 AM
I would think if the axle were mounted in a good vice between two pieces of hardwood just past the keeper ring one could drive it off, especially if you notched it with a grinder.

The side with the damaged adjuster has a small keeper ring, the other side the keeper ring is much meatier.

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