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lstude
01-07-2007, 02:52 PM
After endless hours of cleaning, scraping, wire brushing, blowing the dirt off, and applying POR Metal Prep, I finally took advantage of the warm January weather here, and sprayed POR 15 on the underside of my 52 Commander.

I started to title this thread "A Studebaker to Die For!", but I figured that people would be disappointed when they read what I wrote. But I feel like I have just had a near death experience. Thankfully, it is done. Even after wearing eye protection and a face mask, the paint got all over my face, and the directions on the POR 15 say that if it dries, it doesn't come off of skin! I finally got it cleaned off, but I am glad I don't do this for a living!



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Randy_G
01-07-2007, 03:06 PM
WOW that stuff is strong it ate the driveshaft out of your car![:o)] Nice building, I'm sure that has defered alittle of the rebuild money to have built.

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Randy_G
01-07-2007, 03:06 PM
WOW that stuff is strong it ate the driveshaft out of your car![:o)] Nice building, I'm sure that has defered alittle of the rebuild money to have built.

Randy_G
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lstude
01-07-2007, 03:19 PM
quote: WOW that stuff is strong it ate the driveshaft out of your car! Nice building, I'm sure that has defered alittle of the rebuild money to have built.

Right Randy. Even though I am a building contractor and built the garage myself, I could have taken that money and bought a fully restored Studebaker! I am still trying to work out the driveshaft. The rear end is a 2002 GMC Sonoma Positraction and the transmission is 63 Lark Overdrive.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
01-07-2007, 03:19 PM
quote: WOW that stuff is strong it ate the driveshaft out of your car! Nice building, I'm sure that has defered alittle of the rebuild money to have built.

Right Randy. Even though I am a building contractor and built the garage myself, I could have taken that money and bought a fully restored Studebaker! I am still trying to work out the driveshaft. The rear end is a 2002 GMC Sonoma Positraction and the transmission is 63 Lark Overdrive.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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Dick Steinkamp
01-07-2007, 03:35 PM
Leonard, you get some kind of award for cleaning that undercarriage [^]. NO fun at all [V] (BTDT).

Be careful with that POR (and all other chemical stuff)!

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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
01-07-2007, 03:35 PM
Leonard, you get some kind of award for cleaning that undercarriage [^]. NO fun at all [V] (BTDT).

Be careful with that POR (and all other chemical stuff)!

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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Blue 15G
01-07-2007, 03:37 PM
I too congratulate you for doing such a major job. Last summer I put new carpeting in the '54, and used a small amount of POR 15 here and there on the interior floor, and even that small amount of POR 15 was tricky and a pain to do. I can't even imagine spraying an entire undercarriage with it!

Blue 15G
01-07-2007, 03:37 PM
I too congratulate you for doing such a major job. Last summer I put new carpeting in the '54, and used a small amount of POR 15 here and there on the interior floor, and even that small amount of POR 15 was tricky and a pain to do. I can't even imagine spraying an entire undercarriage with it!

CHAMP
01-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Looks good!!! I have to say that I envy you for having a lift to work on your Studebaker!!!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
01-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Looks good!!! I have to say that I envy you for having a lift to work on your Studebaker!!!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

61hawk
01-07-2007, 05:38 PM
I hope you wore a respirator.

Lee

61hawk
01-07-2007, 05:38 PM
I hope you wore a respirator.

Lee

ST2DE5
01-07-2007, 06:22 PM
You missed a few spots:)

ST2DE5
01-07-2007, 06:22 PM
You missed a few spots:)

DilloCrafter
01-07-2007, 07:51 PM
You're in similar company, Leonard. While doing the POR-15 process on my truck, I managed to spray myself directly in the eye with the caustic, water-based "Marine Clean" degreaser (or was it the phosphoric acid they call "Metal Ready", I can't remember?) I washed out my eye for five minutes, and was thankful I could still see out of it.

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DilloCrafter
01-07-2007, 07:51 PM
You're in similar company, Leonard. While doing the POR-15 process on my truck, I managed to spray myself directly in the eye with the caustic, water-based "Marine Clean" degreaser (or was it the phosphoric acid they call "Metal Ready", I can't remember?) I washed out my eye for five minutes, and was thankful I could still see out of it.

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1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

58PackardWagon
01-07-2007, 07:54 PM
I used POR on the inside of the door and on the floor of a 62 Daytona that I did a frame up on. I have to admit that I wondered how it would work in a sprayer....once I went through about ten brushes. Stuff does not like to come out of brushes plus raw metal takes its toll on brushes very quickly. Did it spread well right out of the can or did you have to thin it out some more? What I had a tough time with was that it loved to cling to bare metal, but did not adhere to paint at all. Great job.....NICE hoist !!!!!!

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58 Packard Wagon (Park Green)
58 Packard Hardtop
58 Packard Sedan
57 Packard Wagon
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58PackardWagon
01-07-2007, 07:54 PM
I used POR on the inside of the door and on the floor of a 62 Daytona that I did a frame up on. I have to admit that I wondered how it would work in a sprayer....once I went through about ten brushes. Stuff does not like to come out of brushes plus raw metal takes its toll on brushes very quickly. Did it spread well right out of the can or did you have to thin it out some more? What I had a tough time with was that it loved to cling to bare metal, but did not adhere to paint at all. Great job.....NICE hoist !!!!!!

58 Packard Wagon (Parade Red)
58 Packard Wagon (Park Green)
58 Packard Hardtop
58 Packard Sedan
57 Packard Wagon
62 Daytona
63 Lark Custom 2 Door Sedan R2

lstude
01-07-2007, 08:45 PM
quote:Did it spread well right out of the can or did you have to thin it out some more? What I had a tough time with was that it loved to cling to bare metal, but did not adhere to paint at all. Great job.....NICE hoist !!!!!!

Yes, I thinned it with the POR thinner. It didn't say how much. I think I only put about 10% thinner in it. There was no paint left on the underside of the car, so it should stick. I realize I missed a few spots, but my safety glasses were so fogged up because I was hot (In January, no less!). I had to keep pulling them away from my head to see. I will do some touch up later. I never could have done it without the lift!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
01-07-2007, 08:45 PM
quote:Did it spread well right out of the can or did you have to thin it out some more? What I had a tough time with was that it loved to cling to bare metal, but did not adhere to paint at all. Great job.....NICE hoist !!!!!!

Yes, I thinned it with the POR thinner. It didn't say how much. I think I only put about 10% thinner in it. There was no paint left on the underside of the car, so it should stick. I realize I missed a few spots, but my safety glasses were so fogged up because I was hot (In January, no less!). I had to keep pulling them away from my head to see. I will do some touch up later. I never could have done it without the lift!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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63larkcustom
01-07-2007, 08:47 PM
The POR-15 works wonders.. coated the entire floorboard and trunk floors with it. Its holding up quite well.. no flaking, etc. Your undercarriage looks great!

Bob Sporner
Palm Springs, California

63larkcustom
01-07-2007, 08:47 PM
The POR-15 works wonders.. coated the entire floorboard and trunk floors with it. Its holding up quite well.. no flaking, etc. Your undercarriage looks great!

Bob Sporner
Palm Springs, California

Original50
01-08-2007, 08:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by 61hawk

I hope you wore a respirator.

Lee


Using Lee's response, I will interject my knowledge of spraying POR15 paints. You have to be extremly careful when spraying that stuff. Since water will set the stuff, and your can test this for yourselves by using a spray bottle of water after painting with POR15 and spray the water onto the POR15 and it will set the stuff real fast and aid in the drying of the paint. If you breath in the POR15 mist, your lung moisture will set the stuff in your lungs, and that will be all she wrote for your painting efforts.

Don Dodson

Original50
01-08-2007, 08:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by 61hawk

I hope you wore a respirator.

Lee


Using Lee's response, I will interject my knowledge of spraying POR15 paints. You have to be extremly careful when spraying that stuff. Since water will set the stuff, and your can test this for yourselves by using a spray bottle of water after painting with POR15 and spray the water onto the POR15 and it will set the stuff real fast and aid in the drying of the paint. If you breath in the POR15 mist, your lung moisture will set the stuff in your lungs, and that will be all she wrote for your painting efforts.

Don Dodson

lstude
01-08-2007, 12:02 PM
quote:I hope you wore a respirator.

I did wear a respirator, but I didn't feel good for the rest of the day, but today I feel fine.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
01-08-2007, 12:02 PM
quote:I hope you wore a respirator.

I did wear a respirator, but I didn't feel good for the rest of the day, but today I feel fine.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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raprice
01-08-2007, 02:12 PM
I've brush painted with POR-15 a number of times and it dries like iron. Never sprayed the stuff and, after reading this thread, I'm not about to.
Yes, it works better in the presence of moisture. Even though I brushed, I wore gloves, an eye shield, then threw away the brush after I was finished.
Your undercarriage looks great. I'm glad you came through the ordeal ok.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

raprice
01-08-2007, 02:12 PM
I've brush painted with POR-15 a number of times and it dries like iron. Never sprayed the stuff and, after reading this thread, I'm not about to.
Yes, it works better in the presence of moisture. Even though I brushed, I wore gloves, an eye shield, then threw away the brush after I was finished.
Your undercarriage looks great. I'm glad you came through the ordeal ok.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

52 Ragtop
01-08-2007, 09:24 PM
Lets all remember, when spraying ANY kind of paint! Wear a respirator! You only have ONE set of lungs! and a lot of this stuff (es[ecially automotive paints) have isocyanites in them! (cyanide) the "one drop will kill you stuff!
We have a couple of fresh air respirators at work, takes fresh air from outside the paint booth for my painters to breath.

The underside looks good, How much overspray did you get over the neighborhood! <G>

Jim

52 Ragtop
01-08-2007, 09:24 PM
Lets all remember, when spraying ANY kind of paint! Wear a respirator! You only have ONE set of lungs! and a lot of this stuff (es[ecially automotive paints) have isocyanites in them! (cyanide) the "one drop will kill you stuff!
We have a couple of fresh air respirators at work, takes fresh air from outside the paint booth for my painters to breath.

The underside looks good, How much overspray did you get over the neighborhood! <G>

Jim

lstude
01-08-2007, 09:46 PM
quote:The underside looks good, How much overspray did you get over the neighborhood! <G>

Jim

I draped clear plastic over the car to try to keep down the overspray.

Does your signature mean that you have a 52 convertible?

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Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
01-08-2007, 09:46 PM
quote:The underside looks good, How much overspray did you get over the neighborhood! <G>

Jim

I draped clear plastic over the car to try to keep down the overspray.

Does your signature mean that you have a 52 convertible?

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Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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65cruiser
01-09-2007, 06:53 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a "52 in a bag" so far.:D

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65cruiser
01-09-2007, 06:53 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a "52 in a bag" so far.:D

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