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studeski
07-31-2009, 10:09 AM
I picked up Terry Frye and drove to Sasco Wednesday. We took our own tour of the building. In 2007 we took the tour with the Truck Farmers. A quick walk through and no pictures allowed. This time we got pictures. When you think about how a little more aggressive marketing could have sold a lot more parts, it's a crying shame. How about racks of radiators. Truck doors still in the wrapping. Wagon quarter panels. A whole room full of window glass. That little bit of upholstery they had at the May swap meet is a drop in the bucket compared to what is up stairs. And on and on. I hope SI gets all of it.

http://www.studeski.com/sasco/sasco_tour.htm

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

sweetolbob
07-31-2009, 10:13 AM
Holy Smokes Claude

I guess you never know until you look. What a pile of NOS.

I agree, I hope SI is able save the majority.

Thanks for the pictures.

Bob

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh263/sweetolbob/P1000416.jpg?t=1227109182

41 Frank
07-31-2009, 10:41 AM
Nice pics Claude.I spent two days there picking our own parts this year and even Claude's numerous pictures don't give a good impression on what's there. Just imagine what a gargantuan task it will be to move and catalog all that stuff.

STEWDI
07-31-2009, 10:57 AM
In my prayers tonite, I'm sneeking one in for SASCO and SI !!

Roger "153624" Hill

55 Champion
47 M-5
Izzer Buggy
Junior Wagon

warrlaw1
07-31-2009, 10:59 AM
Marketing principle: Every decision of the firm is made in light of the customer's wants and needs. I'm not making this up. It seems so simple, but not so simple in execution. S.I. seems to understand it. What a shame about SASCO.

Anne F. Goodman
07-31-2009, 11:02 AM
What amazes me is with all the Studebaker owners we could have adopted Sasco and volunteered to catalog this for them. Mini crews because after all the end result would benefit us all. We all have our levels of expertise boy what a difference we could make as as an organization. Just a thought.

Mabel 1949 Champion
Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
Gus 1958 Transtar
The Prez 1955 President State
Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
Daisy 1954 Commander Regal Coupe
Fresno,Ca
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candbstudebakers
07-31-2009, 11:11 AM
I guess I should just junk a the small amount of used items I have here, years back I took a tour in the 5 story building and don't remember seeing this much stuff, and Dennis only paying a $1.00 a year one would think things would have been better for the last 10 years, where do we go from here????

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/IM000994-1-1.jpg

studeski
07-31-2009, 11:23 AM
quote:Originally posted by warrlaw1

Marketing principle: Every decision of the firm is made in light of the customer's wants and needs. I'm not making this up. It seems so simple, but not so simple in execution. S.I. seems to understand it. What a shame about SASCO.


So many people don't really think to call Sasco for an item because they figure there is no way they would have it. A good example: 1554357 radiator core for a 63-64 Hawk exc floorshift A.D. Inventory says he has them. Problem? who knew? Second problem? $377.60 is way too high. You can get yours recored with a 3 row core for $400. Do you think they will transfer the tanks and brackets for $23? And consider the s&h on the core. Your ad in TW has to contain more than 10 items. Look at SI's ads or the ones Stephan Allen had. If you really look most of what Dennis has does show in the inventory. It isn't all lost.

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

Roscomacaw
07-31-2009, 11:34 AM
I've been weighing the idea of a trip there all this summer. Makes me wanna cry to see that stuff.[V]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

studeski
07-31-2009, 11:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

I've been weighing the idea of a trip there all this summer. Makes me wanna cry to see that stuff.[V]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door




Bob,
I forgot to mention, George said they could close any day now. Nobody knows when.

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

Skinnys Garage
07-31-2009, 11:52 AM
They were busy and I was in a hurry when I visited earlier this summer, so I didn't leave the showroom - boy do I regret that now! I had a chance to talk with Dave quick and he mentioned in passing that when they moved it took 1200 truck loads to transport it all. I didn't think too much about it then, but that pretty much rules out a few guys with pickups and enclosed trailers moving and sorting for a few weekends.

I, like everyone else here, hope that every last nut and bolt can be saved, but after seeing the scope of the inventory, I'm not sure that can happen. If something goes south with the SI deal, I'm not sure what can be done. If the club somehow got involved, I for one would make the 800 mile trip to help, but let's just hope for the best with the deal that's in the works.

I'm NOT an expert, so don't hold me to this, but my thoughts on the earlier fears about the whole inventory getting scrapped are this: I think it would be a nightmare for any scrapper to take this job on. The majority of the parts are packaged in sealed bags, cardboard, paper and crates, not an easy task to scrap. Let's hope that this works in every ones favor and it would be the very last resort and hopefully not a viable option on the table.

Thanks for the pics, I've seen a couple here and there before, but these really give an idea of the scope of things.

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu37/mytoygarage/my59Lark.jpg
Skinny
Watertown, SD

silverhawk
07-31-2009, 12:13 PM
Makes me almost want to cry also. Sure hope S.I can get all or most of it.

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

coyote
07-31-2009, 12:26 PM
It's good for us today, but what terrible inventory control and planning Studebaker must have had. This stuff has been selling for over 40 years, and there are still mountains of parts left over. How much cash must this have consumed from the corporation when they were in a financial struggle for their lives? With all the modern inventory contol tools in use today, like "just in time" and "kaizen", you can bet that you won't see NOS stocks of Pontiac parts like this in 40 years.

Steve
Minden, Nevada

1950 2R5 truck
1960 Hawk R2 4 speed project

JBOYLE
07-31-2009, 12:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by coyote
you can bet that you won't see NOS stocks of Pontiac parts like this in 40 years.


Aside from a few trim pieces (plastic cladding anyone? A one-time neat 80s design feature that managed to hang on for 20+ years) there are no Pontiac parts, just generic GM.
Which is why there are no Pontiacs...or Olds...in our future. And why GM is a shell of its former self.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Nelsen Motorsports
07-31-2009, 01:16 PM
Well it's sad:(, but you can go in the place with nothing and with some elbow grease drive a new Stude out the door.:D

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss29/NelsenRacing/n1558086144_30050401_419-1.jpg
Alex Nelsen
1954 Champion Coupe
Lizella, GA

showbizkid
07-31-2009, 01:21 PM
After looking through your photos, Claude, I have just two words to say:

Good. God.

Random thoughts:
No wonder Dennis doesn't want to move it all again.
I think when they say they're "out" of a part, it really means they just haven't found the rest of the stock yet.
I believe there's enough sheet metal there to assemble an entire 1962 Lark, NOS.
Upholstery! Good Lord!
I think I understand now why the city doesn't want any part of saving the building or its contents.
Ed, HELP! Don't let it all go to the scrapper!




[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com

studeski
07-31-2009, 01:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

After looking through your photos, Claude, I have just two words to say:

Good. God.

Random thoughts:
No wonder Dennis doesn't want to move it all again.
I think when they say they're "out" of a part, it really means they just haven't found the rest of the stock yet.
I believe there's enough sheet metal there to assemble an entire 1962 Lark, NOS.
Upholstery! Good Lord!

Actually it depends on who is looking. The spark plug wire brackets that bolt at the back of the later model V8 intake manifold. Dave says they are out of them but George knows where the bin is.
I think I understand now why the city doesn't want any part of saving the building or its contents.
Ed, HELP! Don't let it all go to the scrapper!




[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com


Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

studeski
07-31-2009, 01:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

After looking through your photos, Claude, I have just two words to say:

Good. God.

Random thoughts:
No wonder Dennis doesn't want to move it all again.
I think when they say they're "out" of a part, it really means they just haven't found the rest of the stock yet.
I believe there's enough sheet metal there to assemble an entire 1962 Lark, NOS.
Upholstery! Good Lord!
I think I understand now why the city doesn't want any part of saving the building or its contents.
Ed, HELP! Don't let it all go to the scrapper!




[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com


Actually it depends on who is looking. The spark plug wire brackets that bolt at the back of the later model V8 intake manifold. Dave says they are out of them but George knows where the bin is.

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

HookedonStudies
07-31-2009, 02:29 PM
Thanks for the pictures Claude.

My wife and I also just went to SASCO on Monday the 20th of July, and after spending 45 minutes or so looking around in the showroom area, I found an opening to ask (Dave) if we could "hire" 10 year old Ben (Dennis' son) to give us a tour. He said OK and we were off to the races. It was everything I had hoped it would be and more - unfortunately I forgot my camera [V], but Claude's pictures are exactly what we saw. The white residue that you see in many or most of the pictures is actually the paint falling from the ceilings. The classic old tongue and groove floors are growing plants in some areas from years of the roof leaking. The building itself was incredible and at the same time incredibly sad in its present state. It is a large building that I would estimate to be about 1 block wide and 2 blocks deep, with a beautiful (at one time) courtyard in the middle. A very classy building in 1928 when it was built (according to the cornerstone) and probably still very nice in November of 1963. Toward the back of the building (south I think)there is a freight elevator which is now non functioning but must have been how all of the inventory got upstairs 10 years ago.

This was my third or 4th trip to Neuman & Aultman (SASCO) and I am extremely grateful that I got to see it one last time. My wife and I joked about how Dennis and his staff must get tired of the endless string of Studebaker fanatics that must come through their door. In the hour that we were there, we heard 3 or 4 different guys telling their Studebaker tales.

Like coyote (Steve) said, this inventory is over 40 years old and is beyond cherry picked. Naturally, many of the items available in greatest quantity are those in the least demand.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention that I was very disappointed in the condition of the inventory and the total lack of housekeeping and organization. I have seen pictures here on the forum and I suppose in TW on the past - but they did not capture what Claude's pictures show and what I saw.
Clearly, a good portion of the merchandise will be (rightfully) thrown away no matter whose hands it ends up in.

Despite everything, I am glad that I went and like I said, very grateful to have had the chance to get the tour we did.

Oh I almost forgot to mention, our tour guide - young Ben, was charming, polite, very helpful, and a real pleasure to learn from. This young gentleman obviously knew his way around both the building and the inventory, and was more than patient when I wanted to delve deeper into the aisles to see what else I could find.
He earned his tip!



Pat Casey
55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser
SDC Member since 1983

tj1852
07-31-2009, 02:59 PM
Here's a question: Are they allowing ordinary folks the opportunity to pick their own part now? I'd gladly drive a day so SASCO to find some upholstery stuff, but every other time I've been there I've only been in the "showroom" portion of the building.

HookedonStudies
07-31-2009, 04:25 PM
The public is not allowed outside of the retail area, however it seems that they are making more exceptions as the end draws nearer. Having said that, I'm not sure I would risk driving for a day only to be told I couldn't see everything.

Pat Casey
55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser
SDC Member since 1983

studeski
07-31-2009, 04:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by tj1852

Here's a question: Are they allowing ordinary folks the opportunity to pick their own part now? I'd gladly drive a day so SASCO to find some upholstery stuff, but every other time I've been there I've only been in the "showroom" portion of the building.


It doesn't cost anything to ask before you go. Be aware that the upholstery area is about 3000 sq ft. How many days do you want to spend there?:D

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

4961Studebaker
07-31-2009, 04:57 PM
I guess I could make some garage art out of some of those front end panels

or those 64 lower valance panels.


But wouldn't have a clue what to do with all those (truck?) bumpers stacked up. If anything was to be scrapped, I'd think those might be the first thing to go. Is there a market for that many?

ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5406-1.jpg

Bullet
07-31-2009, 06:56 PM
Having never been to SO Bend, let alone SASCO the pictures to me were just amazing!!! These pictures tell a thousand words. Like someone said, I am sure there are parts there that have not seen the light of day since the last ime they weer moved and then they were forgotten about again.

Thank you VERY much for sharing.



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Jeff T.
07-31-2009, 08:38 PM
quote:I believe there's enough sheet metal there to assemble an entire 1962 Lark, NOS.


So, you want to jump in the market with Dynacorn but market 62 Lark hardtop or convertale shells:)

I will repeat an earlier submission : Good. God!!!

I have wanted to go to sasco and its previous incarnations for the last 30 years but to see a few pictures of the inventory. I am stunned:0 No wonder Dennis cares not to move the inventory again

I recall talking with or perhaps email about the availability of 62 V8 wiring harnesses. I was told for years that the part was NLA but a forum member encouraged me last year to call Dennis. His response:

How many do you want?

Is the complete inventory only in the heads of the folks that work at sasco?

The pictures of the sheetmetal, piles of Lark front window frames and station wagon quarter panels, I can only shake my head in wonder of the shear enormity of it all.

Jeff T.

"I'm getting nowhere as fast as I can"
The Replacements.

barnlark
07-31-2009, 09:58 PM
That's it. I've been there twice in the last three months, but ran out of time each visit. I'm renting a RV and camping outside all week. [:0][:0] There are still unfound things there even after the years of cherry picking, I'm sure.
I just want one 1960 wire harness, 1549444, right now. They think they have them but haven't seen them since the move.
The mess gets bigger and stuff gets ruined each time someone less than careful goes through it. I'd be happy (to keep from crying, too) to just go through all the interiors and create complete sets until Christmas if I had time and endless funds. :(

Lark289
07-31-2009, 10:23 PM
A crying shame indeed. Hopefully most of the inventory can be saved.


http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Lark289/Stude60-2.jpg

gordr
07-31-2009, 11:50 PM
Looks a lot like it did when I went through there after the meet. Some of that medium/heavy truck stuff probably could be sold to manufacturers in the Third World if it was aggressively marketed.

What really has to be done is a comprehensive inventory. Inventory every part, and identify it by part number. If the numbers aren't present, identify it generically, take a photo, and give the unknown a sequential number to key it to the photo. Might take a small army of volunteers, who wouldn't have to be experts, just passably familiar with the general nature of automotive parts. The best time to do such an inventory would be right now, but I doubt that will happen. Failing that, do the inventory as the first step in moving it. Pick up a part, or a bin-full, identify it, inventory it, and load it on the truck.

I imagine that you can buy readers and printers for bar-code stickers, so that you could put the inventory into the database, real-time as you handle it, and put an SKU number on it.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

barnlark
08-01-2009, 12:38 AM
Great idea, Gord.

Canadoug
08-01-2009, 01:03 AM
why would common-as-white-rice exhaust pipes be stored ? It's pipe for pete's sake [}:)]

This coming from a guy that won't toss off -cuts of anything....cause I might be calling for that later...you know....[:I]

Warren Webb
08-01-2009, 01:39 AM
I've only been there once in 93 when it was still in the original building across the street. I only saw what was in the showroom & thru the years have ordered things being amazed that they were still in stock. Now I'm just blown away by the enormity of it all. Even if Ed is able to come to terms, just imagine the size of the building he will have to erect to place just a portion of these things!! Why dont the existing vendors get together & say this one buys all interior stuff, this one gets all cooling items & so on. The prices of things will have to be more, but all vendors could buy from one another in order to fill requests from customers. Furthermore, we as members could finacially support a vendor & in turn get a percentage discount off the regular price, like being a member at Costco. Then we could deal with a vendor closest to us & order everything thru that one. What they dont have then they obtain it from the vendor that does, much like it is now.

60 Lark convertible
61 Champ
62 Daytona convertible
63 G.T. R-2,4 speed
63 Avanti (2)
66 Daytona Sport Sedan

ChampTrucking
08-01-2009, 07:33 AM
Hey Pat & Claude. I think I was there the same day you guys were,because I remember Dennis telling me Ben was a tour guide that day. I was checking on a fender price for Neil,Matthew's Grandpa. Amazing the amount of items left in there. Jim Turner was blown away at what was left in there Thursday when I helped him gather a few things! All I can say to anyone wanting to find some parts is HURRY! Outside of a catalog you might not get to see these things again,and maybe not at these prices either.

62champ
08-01-2009, 08:13 AM
quote:
It doesn't cost anything to ask before you go. Be aware that the upholstery area is about 3000 sq ft. How many days do you want to spend there?:D

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski


And that is not 3000 sq feet at eye level - where the door panels are it is three racks high. The top level you would need a 12 foot ladder to safely look through what is there.

I was lucky enough to find a front and rear bench cover for my '60 Lark while there in June - but try and find a blue driver's side door panel for a '62 4dr Lark and I was out of luck (they probably have 100 passenger sides but no driver's side...)

<div align="left">1960 Lark VI</div id="left"> <div align="right">1962 7E7-122</div id="right">
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[img=right]http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/62champ/car/DSC02237.jpg[/img=right]

jclary
08-01-2009, 08:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by gordr

Looks a lot like it did when I went through there after the meet. Some of that medium/heavy truck stuff probably could be sold to manufacturers in the Third World if it was aggressively marketed.


Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands


Hey Gord...a few more months of our present economy and the methods the powers that be are employing to "Fix it" ... we will be the "Third World!":(

John Clary
Greer, SC
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u346/jconln/HPIM0372-2.jpg
Life... is what happens as you are making plans.
SDC member since 1975

studeski
08-01-2009, 09:22 AM
On exhaust, keep two of each for patterns and scrap the rest.

As far as prices.....as I said from my previous example.....many prices are way too high.

They are getting some orders in. Many of them 3 pages long.

I repeat........George said they could close anytime.

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

Jeff T.
08-01-2009, 02:49 PM
I do wonder about parts prices but I have no background to make a determination outside of simple economics, ie. here's the price, buy it or not. Perhaps in my long, tortured academic career I read too many case studies of retailers like W.T Grant or Woolworth's who when faced with rising and static inventories, sat on them instead of marking down and moving out product but antique car parts are not womens blouses or washing machines.

I looked up the price on truck bumpers after seeing the stack of them in the picture array...$75.00. is that a good price? I do not know but they do have a large stack of them. Same with 62/63 grille shells and hoods, they sure have a lot of them.

I probably will make an order sooner than later (seeing that there is no "later") for some 62 Lark items. The fact that one almost has to visit to see what sasco actually has in stock, a visit might trigger a "oh, I could use one of those" response.

Jeff T.

"I'm getting nowhere as fast as I can"
The Replacements.

T-CAB
08-01-2009, 11:21 PM
1957 Front fenders?

In looking at the pictures, there appears to be a few 1956 or 1957 sedan front fenders. The Sasco online parts says that they do not have any stock, but they sure look like them (could be a 1958 Scotsman as well).

Would any of you chaps who are in there no if they are 57 fenders. I have a '57 Pres. Classic that I will restore if "A": I live to be 100, or "B". win a lottery. If I don't, at least the next owner would have NOS fenders.

Thanks

T-cab




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studeski
08-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Let's face it, Dennis is going to hold out until the last dog dies. If you don't buy a truck load you won't get a break. The Lark bumpers unwrapped are $35. The wrapped bumpers are $100. No difference. The wrapped have to be re-chromed. So....is a truck bumper worth $75? NO!!!

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

studeski
08-01-2009, 11:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by T-CAB

1957 Front fenders?

In looking at the pictures, there appears to be a few 1956 or 1957 sedan front fenders. The Sasco online parts says that they do not have any stock, but they sure look like them (could be a 1958 Scotsman as well).

Would any of you chaps who are in there no if they are 57 fenders. I have a '57 Pres. Classic that I will restore if "A": I live to be 100, or "B". win a lottery. If I don't, at least the next owner would have NOS fenders.

Thanks

T-cab




http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/t-Cab/Familyandtrk.jpg[/IMG]


I don't have a parts book for those years. But why would a 58 Scotsman have it's own fender. Call Dennis or Dave. If they aren't hauling fire wood to Dennis' house you might get an answer. That's if they aren't too busy.............

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
63 GT Hawk R2
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/62hawka/dakota01_250.jpg[/img=left]

StudeDave57
08-02-2009, 01:13 AM
There sure are ALOT of "NLA" parts in those photos!!! [xx(]


quote:Originally posted by T-CAB
1957 Front fenders? In looking at the pictures, there appears to be a few 1956 or 1957 sedan front fenders. The Sasco online parts says that they do not have any stock, but they sure look like them (could be a 1958 Scotsman as well). T-cab
I see way more then 'a few' '56-'58 fenders there... [:0] [B)]

quote:Originally posted by studeski
I don't have a parts book for those years. But why would a 58 Scotsman have it's own fender. Claude
The difference would be the lack of holes for trim. Those fenders could work on your '57 so long as the one you get is an early Scotsman. There's one on my Parkview now because even way back in the day they were not easy to find.

AND NOW I KNOW WHY... [:0] [B)] :( :( [V]

I'm sure if you really had to- you could use a late Scotsman one without the vents~ but that would take a bit of work no matter how you did it. It would be interesting, though... ;) :D [:o)]



StudeDave '57 [8D]
Ferndale, WA

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Andy R.
08-02-2009, 02:36 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jeff T.
The fact that one almost has to visit to see what sasco actually has in stock, a visit might trigger a "oh, I could use one of those" response.



My thoughts exactly. Claude's photo essay triggered that response on my end.

I saw so many things that I could use, but cost and shipping made it prohibitive. Don't get me wrong...SASCO (and N&A) was usually the first place I looked for parts and the last place I ordered.

But...when I needed new rear leaf springs, a local spring shop built me a perfect set - visually identical, yet with my specified ride height/handling characteristics...for $100 less, let alone shipping charges. The Hawk could use a set, and there are dozens sitting right there on the pallets...the only way I could justify it would be a 2-for-1 to cover the S&H.

If the writing was on the wall, it's a shame more wasn't done to move more of the inventory sooner. I can't criticize. It's all just so HEAVY!

Andy
62 GT

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/3069855932_de3d120955_t.jpg

cool 1953
08-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Wow that is a lot of parts!

clayton-rip chicken hawk!
http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/IM001174.jpg

TX Rebel
08-04-2009, 12:21 AM
I would love to visit SASCO if Dennis would make it worth my while, but for my money attending events like the Baty auction is a better way to obtain good stuff, rather than buying up the same stuff the other vendors are buying and winding up in competition
with them trying to sell the same crap SASCO could not get rid of in 40 years. I prefer to concentrate on items other vendors don't have, & it is 1200 miles to SB from here. I DO hope Ed or someone with the ability to swallow a huge quantity will be able to take the inventory over. I imagine that enough scrap could be sold out of the stock to pay for a good bit of the move.

Barry'd in Studes

warrlaw1
08-04-2009, 03:40 PM
I've known so many businesses that would have been successful with just a little marketing help. I can't fault Dennis, or anyone else. He stepped in at a time when he was needed. We all get burnt out after a while. Inventory, use the bar codes, and put the inventory online for all to see. Marketing is getting a lot easier in the electronic world, and a little marketing help now means web designers and phone centres. Crazy but real. I know lawyers that can't make their practices profitable. They don't teach sales and marketing in law school.... but they should!