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Studegirl
07-29-2009, 12:39 PM
I thought I would share with everyone how we have finally been able to keep the critters out of my cars. They are stored in a pole barn and we live in a rural area in Ohio, which means mice and chipmunks like to nest in the cars in winter. We tried Irish Spring soap in the cars - they ate it, I have the bar with chew marks all over it, then we tried dryer sheets and they used them in their nests. I know they were just laughing at us the whole time. After two springs of cleaning mouse excrement, mouse carcasses and assorted other stuff out of the cars, my husband bought giant zippered bags for the cars. The brand is Car Jacket, and we purchased them in 2007 from autoanything.com. I think it was about $500 for both bags, they are for indoor use only and the current prices are $199.95 - $289.95 per bag depending on size. They came with bags of Desicant (spelling?) to absorb any moisture in them. You should put a car cover on the car and then zip them up in the car bags. I am trying to add photos, but this is my first time, so bear with me if I do something wrong. We have not had any critter problems the last two winters, which has been wonderful.

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Okay - I previewed it and it looks like I did it right. The natives are getting restless (my 5 and 6 year olds) - time to go get lunch. I will try and check back later and answer any questions anyone has about the bags.;)

Michelle (Myer) Chernisky
Heart of Ohio Chapter, SDC
60 Lark Convertible
64 Avanti

warrlaw1
07-29-2009, 01:31 PM
Way Kool! You could probably vacuum seal it, too... but you wouldn't want to suck all the oil out of the filter cannister and deposit it all over the car and baggie, too...

Chris Pile
07-29-2009, 01:33 PM
Looks interesting, Michelle - and they are much cheaper than those inflatable car bubbles a few friends are using.
Let's hope the critters don't develop a taste for your Car Jackets!

Chris Pile
Editor: The Studebaker Special
http://midwaystudebakers.tripod.com/

JBOYLE
07-29-2009, 02:10 PM
The PO of my Avanti used them with good results. He stored the car over the winter in a barn/shed and had no trouble with rodents.
Helped protect against rust too.
I haven't used the one he supplied with the car, I have a heated garage with (knock wood) no rodents.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Studegirl
07-29-2009, 02:12 PM
My husband used the shop vac to suck out most of the air, since the Avanti has already dumped out most all the power steering fluid and last summer the gas out of her tank, didn't have to worry about many other fluids. Unfortunately, she hasn't been driven since I was pregnant with my daughter who is now 6.

I hope the critters don't develop a taste for car jackets. For some reason, which I don't fully understand, they left my husband's race car (a 1984 Chev Monte Carlo that is strictly for the drag strip) alone. I don't know if it was the smell of racing fuel, that it was up on jack stands, or bad taste on the part of the critters, as my husband contends, haha!

As Chris stated, the price isn't bad - and definitely better than cleaning up dead mice and their trash.

Michelle (Myer) Chernisky
Heart of Ohio Chapter, SDC
60 Lark Convertible
64 Avanti

bams50
07-29-2009, 02:30 PM
Great info, thanks! It's a big problem in all my buildings, too. I threw away several bars of Irish Spring soap this Spring that were nearly half chewed away; same results as you with the dryer sheets. Some insist mothballs work every time, but I hate that smell, so have never used them.

Chris raised my concern: What keeps the critters from chewing on the bags? I woder, is there something specific, or have you just been lucky so far?

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131

Studegirl
07-29-2009, 04:32 PM
We also resisted the moth ball idea because of the smell, although the smell of dead critter was far worse!! The bags are pretty heavy duty, my husband was a bit concerned they might chew through them, but so far we haven't had any problems and I know there are critters in the pole barn because we found a couple dead ones this spring. It seems no matter how much we seal and fill holes with that foam stuff, they still find a way to get in. We have a small drainage creek that runs behind the pole barn with a few scraggly oak trees growing alongside it, we cut down 2 of the trees hoping the reduced amount of acorns would help, but I don't think it's made much difference.

Michelle (Myer) Chernisky
Heart of Ohio Chapter, SDC
60 Lark Convertible
64 Avanti

StudeRich
07-29-2009, 05:05 PM
Hi Michelle, this is Rich. G formerly from OEC Chapter, long time no see! Good to see you on here, and learning FAST! [^]

Two of my three son's are on here also Dave: StudeDave57, and Mike: hotwheels63r2.

I always heard that a plastic bag would be like those that use a blue tarp, they just sweat up and rust from the inside of the fenders out, but usually that is because they are stored in damp or dirt garages or outside. :(

But this sounds better, one main reason for your success I think is the nice new building, dry concrete, vinyl bottom (floor cover) and the dehumidifier crystals. In some more humid climates it may take a dehumidifier machine to keep it dry, I don't know. [:0]

I am glad this is working for you, lets hope it works everywhere, in Washing-rain I am not so sure! :D Sounds like you have a great family, take care! :)

StudeRich

bams50
07-29-2009, 06:03 PM
Thanks for the tip! Autoanything.com shows two different bags. Links below:

[u]Rhino Shelter</u>-
http://www.autoanything.com/car-covers/65A3648A0A0.aspx

[u]Car Jacket</u>-
http://www.autoanything.com/car-covers/69A1798A0A0.aspx

This comment for the Rhino made me cringe:

"I'LL FIND OUT NEXT LATE MARCH, HOW WELL MY 1935 FORD PICK UP HELD UP INSIDE THE SEALED COVER. IT'S SITTING OUTSIDE, IN THE CRUEL WISCONSIN WEATHER ELEMENTS."

Brought back flashbacks of Miss Belvedere:(


Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131

Henry Votel
07-29-2009, 09:05 PM
I have wintered two Studebakers in these bags from Car Jacket in Michigan for 5 years now.

Absolutely no problems. No need to create a vacuum as that will not hold. Moisture that melted from snow on nearby equipment and crept under the bag never penetrated the bag.

The cars come out each year just as good as the day they were bagged. I put some cardboard under the engine & running gear because we all know Studebakers mark their resting places. Worth it? Yes. Thinking about buying another bag. My 2.

Henry Votel,
Forest Lake, MN
Moderator: Editors & Publishers Forum

DEEPNHOCK
07-29-2009, 09:08 PM
Heck with the cars.. I love your barn.
Jeff[8D]

Swifster
07-29-2009, 09:51 PM
Winter storage? What's that?

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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barnlark
07-29-2009, 09:53 PM
What size did you get for the '60 convertible, Michelle? Could it be smaller..wider, after you got yours? There are so many sizes from which to choose, it's tough to decide what's closest.

DEEPNHOCK
07-29-2009, 10:01 PM
Yeah?
Show them your Palmetto bugs, snakes, and spiders[:0][xx(]
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Swifster

Winter storage? What's that?Tom - Mulberry, FL

Swifster
07-29-2009, 10:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Yeah?
Show them your Palmetto bugs, snakes, and spiders[:0][xx(]
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Swifster

Winter storage? What's that?Tom - Mulberry, FL



You forgot the fire ants...

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

[b]1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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Studegirl
07-29-2009, 10:22 PM
First off, Tom in Florida, that wasn't very nice to rub in all that sunny weather ;-}. I grew up in and spent 30 years in L.A. and I think it's just boring to have the same weather all the time!

Hello Rich - good to see you and the boys on here! It's so nice to see all my fellow 2nd generation Stude "brats" still at it! The material these bags are made from is so much better and more durable than the blue tarps, I think the Desicant bags help too.

As for our Pole Barn - my husband and I met at the drag strip which we now live 7 miles from, we were both drag racing, I was in the Street Class racing my Avanti and my husband was in the "Big Dawg" class racing his 84 Monte Carlo against my brother in Spooky. When we got married, we had 6 vehicles and a trailer between us and a new house with a 3 car garage, something had to be done. It's 40' x 60' and now has a commercial 9000 lb. lift in it hooked up and working, my husband bought it at an auction from a Ford Dealership. Now we just need to get the lights in.

As for the bag sizes, George, my husband, said he ordered a M3 and a M1 size, but they were out of the smaller size and sent two of the larger size, so the one for the Lark is much longer than it needs to be. He said there was a chart on the Autoanything website that listed all cars and the sizes they took.

A neighbor of my husband's friend, in Cleveland, spent $1500 for one of those bubble things that heats and circulates the air and the bag actually rubbed through the paint on his 68 Camaro from the movement of the air circulating. I don't know if he set it up wrong or what, but he was just sick about the paint on his car. We actually put car covers on the cars before zipping them up which Car Jacket recommends.

Dave - I would definitely recommend it for your baby up there in cold Cleveland, it's well worth the investment!



Michelle (Myer) Chernisky
Heart of Ohio Chapter, SDC
60 Lark Convertible
64 Avanti

barnlark
07-30-2009, 05:17 PM
I saw the chart and that's why I was asking, Michelle. Our cars are about 14' X 5' wide, but they have a height built in to that width equation. The windshield top from the floor is about 4'-9", but their sizes don't seem to make sense, so I wondered what size worked best for you. I'll look for that M3 version, if they still list it. The price goes up quickly unless you have an Izetta. Thanks.
BTW, this was our April this year. 2 feet less than the winter snow, but you get the idea. At least 5 months of this every year for storage bags!

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Studegirl
07-30-2009, 07:19 PM
Great picture Dave! We don't get quite as much snow down here as you do with that Lake Effect Snow, but it's still not nice enough to have the cars out.

Someone else had mentioned putting cardboard under the cars - we put cardboard under the engine and trans for those inevitable leaks. I really think you'll like the bag for storage.

Michelle (Myer) Chernisky
Heart of Ohio Chapter, SDC
60 Lark Convertible
64 Avanti

JWW
09-26-2009, 12:04 PM
BUMP

Here's a post from last July about winter storage using bags called Car Jackets to deal with critters.
I wanted to link this to Paul's post about "it's mouse time" in Stove Huggers, but couldn't figure out how to do it.

I just checked the autoanything website, and they're offering a 10% discount on orders over $ 150 until 9/28/09, plus FREE shipping on all orders.
JWW

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barnlark
09-26-2009, 02:05 PM
I got mine @ 20% off this summer, John. I'll let you know how well it holds up. I have lots of work to do this winter, so it may not make it in too soon.

bridgegaurd
09-26-2009, 04:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by barnlark

BTW, this was our April this year. 2 feet less than the winter snow, but you get the idea. At least 5 months of this every year for storage bags!

Nice car, great woods picture but for that white stuff i have to travel 60 miles to toch that. But pack rats come visit constantly.

terrymb
09-26-2009, 04:25 PM
Wanted to chime in with my success with using a car bag. Never a problem. One spring I found a dead mouse under the bag but never any chew marks of any kind. The instructions that come with the bag advise having your car as dry as possible when putting it away and not to be smoking when you open the bag in the spring!
Terry

1952 Commander Starlight
Green Lake, WI