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Anne F. Goodman
07-06-2009, 10:12 PM
WE were driving our Studebakers on Saturday. Now you know how people honk and wave it goes with the territory driving a Studebaker. Well there were 4 Studes in a row and behind me was another club member in a King cab pickup. We were traveling up 41 its a two lane road speed limit 55. This guy comes up behind the pickup flashing his lights on a cell phone honking his horn. Well there are turnouts for slower drivers to pull off the road also every once in while a slow traffic lane for us to keep up our speed but allow others to pass. Most of the road is marked no passing mountainous road scary stuff to pass most of the time.
Well this jerk passes the pickup gets behind me I'm in the 55 President. Flashing his lights honking the horn nowhere for me to go. I'm going 55 to 60 fast enough. The street is marked no passing well he risks his life and ours and passes anyway. When he goes to pass Bruce who is driving my 54 Commander, Bruce thinks gosh he's honking gonna give him a thumbs up, so Bruce turns his head to look at the guy as he wizzes by the guy flips him off and honks swerves back in front of him. Well Bruce had a smile on his face then a look of shock. It is not funny, It is not Funny. Maybe if I say it so many times it won't be funny. Its also sad that people have no respect for the road or any other drivers on it. I was so worried that he would get into a head on and run into us. I was glad that he got the heck away from us . anyhow just wanted to share.

Mabel 1949 Champion
Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
Gus 1958 Transtar
The Prez 1955 President State
Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
Daisy 1954 Commander Regal Coupe
Fresno,Ca
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bridgegaurd
07-06-2009, 10:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Anne F. Goodman


When i was running dirt cars we used to sit around and talk about taking an old claimer or demo derby car out on the road and rub some of the rude folks that on the road.

I still think it would be fun today, with a big cell phone painted on the side.

Mark57
07-06-2009, 10:23 PM
When bozo's like that come up behind you, you wish you had a 2 Ton HD Transtar/Diesel with an insecure load of bricks on board.

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tim87114
07-06-2009, 11:33 PM
What is it with people today? It blows me away when you are doing 55-60 and people have enough, well, lack of brains to pull a stunt like that. I completely agree, since when do people think that being in a hurry is worth more than me and my families life. It is sad, and I see it every day on the roads around california.

barnlark
07-06-2009, 11:50 PM
Then again, there's always the chance he went over the cliff and is having to suck moisture out of cactus for three days until someone finds him. [}:)]:(

BRUCESTUDE
07-07-2009, 12:02 AM
Nothing gets my goat more than when some idiot HAS to pass or tailgate just because I'm in an old car!!!!JERKS!!! When someone smiles and waves,tho, it can make everything all better.[8D]

Thomas63R2
07-07-2009, 12:44 AM
The years go by and some things never change - do any of you remember some of the old driver's ed movies like Disney's "Mr Wheeler", or some of the awful ones like "Blood on the Highway"?

There always seems to be a certain percentage subset of drivers who may otherwise be nice good people who become the proverbial horse's ass once behind the wheel - power does that to some people.

Just the other day I was driving by a local trio of schools, two elementary and one middle school. Posted 35 mph speed limit which I was doing, and one legal lane in each direction. A Lexus fills up my rear view mirror - then passes me IN THE BICYCLE LANE! Good grief. This actually happens too often, this time I really lay on my horn and get the digit salute in return. This person got exactly one car length ahead of where they were as they pull in behind the car that I was following. That is a lot of trouble for little gain. At the stop light I blare my horn and get more fist waving in return. Finally, a lady (well, not really) gets out of the Lexus and starts screaming at me that I am a bad driver - I tell her she doesn't own the road - she tells me I am a slow driver - its useless but I point out how little she gained with her driving stunt. Then she unleashes 100 lbs of fury on my car and actually dented it with her fists. She took off and I filed a police report - but apparently I didn't get the license plate number correct. Yeah I know its not smart to provoke a nut driver into a confrontation, but I also feel that is exactly why some people will drive as if the road really is theirs, and theirs alone - because no one ever tells them they are wrong. I'll probably still toot my horn at self centered driver's, but not continue to blare the horn after that.

Thomas

Long time hot rodder
Packrat junk collector
'63 Avanti R2 4 speed

kmul221
07-07-2009, 07:25 AM
In Ontario,Canada we have a "hot line" phone number to call the police & report the vehicle licence plate & offence.The owner gets a letter from the authorities.If reported again (he-she) gets a visit from the police & has to take driver classes & is reported to their insurance company.No matter how fast you go it's never good enough for some drivers.

Johnnywiffer
07-07-2009, 08:31 AM
When I was returning to San Antonio from the Wing Ding in Tulsa on Sunday, a guy in a beautiful black late model Audi was cutting in and out on the 3 lane I-35. Traffic was heavy because of the holiday and, as usual, not many people were in the slow lane, so the Audi got very far ahead of me by his in-out tactics and driving in the slow lane.

In a few minutes, there he was by the side of the road, grille smashed, hood dented, radiator steaming having hit the rear of a Bubbaís 4X4. I can say I felt sorry for Bubba but in the brief instant as I passed, I saw only slight damage to the 4X4 bumperóbut Iím sure the Audi had damage in the thousands.

Sometimes these dummies get there come-uppance sooner than later. :D

John

tutone63
07-07-2009, 09:33 AM
It is always nice to hear of a moron driver getting his car squashed due to his stupidity. I have had the misfortune of folks who think that because I am in an old car I must be slow, I mean, I usually drive 5-10 miles an hour over the speed limit, and they will have been going about the same, but as soon as I get near them, either an on ramp or a turn, they think they have to floor it to get around me. At first I just thought they were actually maintaining a speed faster than me...but no, most pass and slow down...sometimes slower than I was driving in the first place... So now when I see one of those and they floor it to get around me...I floor it too. Usually at around 85 they give up. but some don't and I usually call it quits at around 90..cause after that it isn't worth it...but as soon as the pass me, they slow back down to the speed they were at before...and sometimes I catch up with them...oh well...

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Swifster
07-07-2009, 10:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by tutone63

So now when I see one of those and they floor it to get around me...I floor it too. Usually at around 85 they give up. but some don't and I usually call it quits at around 90..cause after that it isn't worth it...but as soon as the pass me, they slow back down to the speed they were at before...and sometimes I catch up with them...oh well...


I'm sorry, but I have to say it. You are a horse's rear end. You don't drag race a car passing you. This is just as dangerous as anything Anne mentioned. I have seen this now and then and if someone drag races me while trying to get around them, I start drifting to the right until he backs down or I hit them (I haven't hit them yet). This is how bad accidents happen. Those cars that do get by you probably slow down on purpose because of your antics.

This is the reason I don't get a motorcycle. I've seen everything down here from passing on double yellow lines and passing on the bicycle lane, to motorcycles passing between the lanes and between cars at freeway speeds.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

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1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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r1lark
07-07-2009, 11:06 AM
Tom,

I'm not sure I understand how less dangerous it is to "....start drifting to the right until he backs down or I hit them...". This also seems like how bad accidents happen.

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
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Swifster
07-07-2009, 12:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by r1lark

Tom,

I'm not sure I understand how less dangerous it is to "....start drifting to the right until he backs down or I hit them...". This also seems like how bad accidents happen.


If I'm going to hit somebody, I'd rather hit the idiot drag racing me than the innocent person coming at me in the oncoming lane.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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mausersmth
07-07-2009, 12:30 PM
met a nut last Sunday coming home from Carroll County with my girlfriend and two other passengers in the Cruiser.

Posted limit was 60, I was averaging 70, in the left lane as there was slower traffic on the road. Saw a late model 4x4 pickup coming up fast behind me as I was approaching yet another slower car. The 4x moves to the right lane and tries to pass, but we reach the slower car too soon and he had to back off.

Once we pass the car, the 4x again moves to the right lane, but this time pulls alongside me and comes about a foot over the line towards the Cruiser! [:0]

As he pulled away I'm afraid we were a bit too shaken to get the tag number.

A. Charles Eck, Jr.
Essex, MD
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Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)

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'57 Commander 4 door sedan 'Bluebird'
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raprice
07-07-2009, 12:31 PM
Anne, it's a fact that too many morons drive on our roads. It's unfortunate that these same morons reproduce and live among us. It's not in a particular state of our union, but it's all over. I see these jerks all the time. I really try to get out of their way, hoping they'll run into a tree or something, just not some other innocent driver.
I'm glad that you survived.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY

tutone63
07-07-2009, 12:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster


quote:Originally posted by tutone63

So now when I see one of those and they floor it to get around me...I floor it too. Usually at around 85 they give up. but some don't and I usually call it quits at around 90..cause after that it isn't worth it...but as soon as the pass me, they slow back down to the speed they were at before...and sometimes I catch up with them...oh well...


I'm sorry, but I have to say it. You are a horse's rear end. You don't drag race a car passing you. This is just as dangerous as anything Anne mentioned. I have seen this now and then and if someone drag races me while trying to get around them, I start drifting to the right until he backs down or I hit them (I haven't hit them yet). This is how bad accidents happen. Those cars that do get by you probably slow down on purpose because of your antics.

This is the reason I don't get a motorcycle. I've seen everything down here from passing on double yellow lines and passing on the bicycle lane, to motorcycles passing between the lanes and between cars at freeway speeds.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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My mistake...I forgot to mention that I only do this on the interstate. I am not stupid enough to do that on a two lane highway. I assume that is what you thought I was doing. (I also must stress that where I live, the interstates have alot of open spaces, not like in the big cities where there are bumper to bumper wolf packs. When I am around those, I also play it safe.) I was referring to open interstate with few other drivers around. at 6 in the morning when I am driving to work, there is alot of open road, and I have no problem opening up if I think I can get away with it.

you also must be carefull with the drift until they back down or you hit them. I have come across alot of folks who would run into someone just to spite them. I have actually seen it done. not pretty.

the best example that I have I did not actually see, but it happened to my dad. him and a few buddies of his were in a 66 Charger, on a gravel road, going 55mph. They came across a farmer in his truck spotting feilds, going about 35. they slowed down, signaled and passed him. they sped back up to 55 (too fast for a gravel road, but that is irrelivant) the farmer sped up to catch them, caught up with them, and pulled out to pass them. the driver of the charger slowed down to let him go around when the farmer jerked his truck into their path. they turned and took the ditch, instead of hitting the farmers truck, but hit a culvert. The driver suffered broken ribs when the steering wheel hit his chest, and whiplash. The guy in the passenger seat broke his face on the dashboard, and suffered whiplash as well. Thankfully my dad was in the back seat.

The farmer turned his truck around and drove up to them, sitting there with a busted car and blood all over the dashboard from the broken nose of the passenger and said:

"that is what you A**holes get for driving like maniacs!" and drove away.

you do gotta be careful.

tutone63
07-07-2009, 01:12 PM
I will also add a sad post script to that story...the driver came down with bone cancer in his chest about 5 years after the accident, and a few years later, the cancer won. My dad says that he thinks that accident caused the cancer to spark, and if it weren't for that farmer, his good friend would still be around to this day.

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starliner62
07-07-2009, 01:59 PM
I drive 150 miles round trip for work, every day on I-95 and I-40. I use my cruise control and run about five miles an hour over the posted speed limit. This gives me the best RPM range for good fuel mileage. I get honked at, flipped off, cussed and who knows what else, because I'm driving too slow for some of the I-95 travelers.
Sometimes I wish I was in an old BIG clunker so I could knock them off of the road.[}:)]


Jamie McLeod
Hope Mills, NC

warrlaw1
07-07-2009, 02:19 PM
The key to safe driving and better living is the same as basic common etiquette. You have to be able to view the situation from the point of view of the other person. Is a train of vintage cars creating a line of traffic behind them? If yes, pull over and let the cars pass. Are you riding someone's bumper and diverting their attention from the road to the rear view mirror? If yes, pass them and be done with it or back off. The difference between a sociopath and the "rest" of us is, that we have the ability to take the role of the other person. That's also called a conscience. Grow one and people will respond accordingly. Love and peace.

lewdstude
07-07-2009, 02:46 PM
TUTONE63: Playing interstate "rage games" will catch up with you eventually. I used to drive 125 interstate miles daily to and from work for 7 years, and watched alot of drivers lose that game. Hopefully, if you continue this, your wife and kids are not with you. All it takes is the "right guy" that REALLY wants to play. Chill out and stay alive.

SDC member/career lurker

BobGlasscock
07-07-2009, 02:56 PM
I know I am a pollyanna, living naively out here in the vast arid wastelands, but there are comments here that truly disturb me down to the bone. Why are so many of you speeding and bragging about it? Forget the law, you are setting yourselves above the rest of humanity and the safety of all others on the planet. What gives ya'll that right? Obviously, NONE of you have lost a loved one to an idiot in a car. Do you understand death? Do you understand the finality of death? Do you understand the emptiness that a death causes to so many living people? Why do you condone driving slower than others in the left lane? The left lane is either legally or sensibly designated as a passing lane. Not a lane to cruise in so that you can aggravate others on the road into a rage. Drive in the right (outside) lane until you are ready to pass and then move back after passing. I am amazed that so many of you are SO non-chalant about this. "I break the law and don't care if I cause the death of someone you love, just stay out of my way and give me the right to be as arrogant and selfish as I wish without interference from you." And then when you get home, you write about how 'stupid' other people drive. I am amazed and deeply disappointed.

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tutone63
07-07-2009, 03:42 PM
Lewdstude and bobglasscock, I am man enough to admit that this is sage advice. (even though the male ego in me is SCREAMING not to say that! We can be real here, can't we?) I will also be the first to admit that my biggest weakness is my "road rage" (however, it is nothing close to what I have seen from some others out there)

It never ceases to amaze both me and my wife, because everywhere else in life I am VERY level headed. It is just something about four wheels and an engine that goes to my head or something. In fact, My wife and I (fiancee at the time) had a very close call a few years ago in my El Camino (a big V8) that could have ended with her very injured, if not fatally, because of my pig-headedness. The last few years she has kept me bridled when she is in the car, and a good thing too. (it was just luck that we made it through without a scratch that time in the El Camino) I have gotten better, but still have my weak points. It is a work in progress. Thanks for your advice.

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JRoberts
07-07-2009, 04:16 PM
The type driver and driving that Anne describes here is frequent on our highways. But I am not so sure it is any worse now than it was years ago. I also am not so sure it only happens to those of us who are driving older cars. I think it is a general type of behavior that a lot of Americans have that stems from the idea that they are the center of the universe and should be given special attention and consideration in whatever situation they happen to be in, not matter what the eventual costs might be. In a car at 60+ miles per hour this is naturally a deadly thing.


















Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

Swifster
07-07-2009, 04:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobGlasscock

I know I am a pollyanna, living naively out here in the vast arid wastelands, but there are comments here that truly disturb me down to the bone. Why are so many of you speeding and bragging about it? Forget the law, you are setting yourselves above the rest of humanity and the safety of all others on the planet. What gives ya'll that right? Obviously, NONE of you have lost a loved one to an idiot in a car. Do you understand death? Do you understand the finality of death? Do you understand the emptiness that a death causes to so many living people? Why do you condone driving slower than others in the left lane? The left lane is either legally or sensibly designated as a passing lane. Not a lane to cruise in so that you can aggravate others on the road into a rage. Drive in the right (outside) lane until you are ready to pass and then move back after passing. I am amazed that so many of you are SO non-chalant about this. "I break the law and don't care if I cause the death of someone you love, just stay out of my way and give me the right to be as arrogant and selfish as I wish without interference from you." And then when you get home, you write about how 'stupid' other people drive. I am amazed and deeply disappointed.


Bob, speed doesn't kill, speed differential does. Just so you know I set my cruise control at 5 over the posted speed limit. In real life that is two miles over the posted speed limit (known speedo error on my Ranger is 3 MPH). If I'm passing somebody, it's because they are going sllooowwwwweeeeerrrrrr than the posted speed limit. Typically is passing someone on a two lane, one does pick up speed to complete the pass as quickly as possible. This is usually because in towns over 35 (in pop.), there may be oncoming traffic further down the road. Once the pass has been completed, the cruise is back to +2.

But at the same time, if you were driving thru Detroit's western suburbs on I-696 ONLY doing 70 MPH in anything other than the right lane (out of 4), you are taking your life in your own hands. Typical rush hour speeds on that freeway are 80-85 MPH. Say what you want about speeding (and I'm not necessarily saying you are wrong), but if you are not speeding, you are the problem.

Speeds are relative to enforcement. In some areas, speed limits are suggestions and in others they are rigidly enforced. Most police personel won't pull you over for what they do themselves. Most municipalities will give you to 10+ over the posted limit. People will take advantage of that everytime.

You also have to look at what is now the standard in automotive equipment. Four wheel disc brakes, anti-lock brakes, traction control, dual (or more) air bags, three point seat belts, crush zones, etc., even in the smallest car. This makes a lot of drivers feel invinceable. I felt naked driving my '71 Fury!

The best piece of wisdom I was giving when racing in SCCA was;

It's not how fast you go, but how you go fast!

The idea was to be smooth and not herky jerky, even if it meant slowing down a little. I don't mind someone speeding, but do it in a smooth fashion while keeping your eyes open. I had enough speeding tickets while in my twenties that I try to enjoy the drive, take my +2 or 3 and be happy with that.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

1964 Studebaker Commander 170-1V, 3-speed w/OD (Cost to Date: $623.67)

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dpson
07-07-2009, 04:41 PM
Picture this: you're driving a 1924 Studebaker Light Six touring car, maximum speed on the flats roughly 40 to 45 MPH, on the hills around 20 MPH and there is a semi-tractor in your rear view mirror, all you see is radiator and grill. Add in rear-only external mechanical brakes. You pull over when ever you can, but are limited to places to safely stop. I know where you're coming from.....

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Montpelier, VT
1960 Lark V-8 Convertible
1960 Lark V-8 Convertible (parts car)
1961 Lark Crusier
1962 Lark V-8 Regal Convertible

JBOYLE
07-07-2009, 04:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster
Most municipalities will give you to 10+ over the posted limit.

Not here.
In this city and county they might as well make the police and sherriff departments part of the assessor's office, their main duty is to collect money.

BTW: Years ago I was pulled over in Idaho for going 58 in a 55 zone (as iIsaid, this was a while ago...)on the interstate.
Of course I was in a TV news car, and the local cops didn't much care for "those trouble makin' media types".

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Aussie Hawk
07-07-2009, 05:28 PM
Don't think these idiots are only American, we've got plenty of moron road users down here too, and it's not restricted to drivers. I do a lot of city driving with my business, and what gets me is the way pedestrians nowadays just step off the kerb at a crossing, and expect the cars to stop, no matter how close they are. I was always taught to wait at the kerb until the cars stopped to let you walk across. A little while ago I had a full 1,000 litre drum on the back of my Ute, doing below the 35 mph limit, and a pretty young thing just steps off in front of me - I nearly put the drum through the cab when I hit the picks. Then, then...she smiled cutely and wagged her finger at me GRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Another time I was in my '56 Inter pick up, doing 35 mph,(our 60 kph),on a main road through the 'burbs, and a woman in a little hatch back pulls out of a driveway right in front of me, when I gave her a blast on the horn she flips me.

So you see Gentlemen moronic behavour is across the globe, and when mixed with arrogance is a dangerous combination.

Matt
Brisbane
Australia

okc63avanti
07-07-2009, 08:16 PM
When you get one of those guys passing you ... kind of makes you wish your Studebaker crank seals are really bad (worse that the normal Stude seal) so that you can do the James Bond oil slick trick on them.

A friend of mine with a 61 Hawk installed the exhaust flame throwers on his car so that tailgaters get a loud backfire and flames coming at them to scare them off.

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Andy R.
07-07-2009, 08:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by Anne F. Goodman
When he goes to pass Bruce who is driving my 54 Commander, Bruce thinks gosh he's honking gonna give him a thumbs up, so Bruce turns his head to look at the guy as he wizzes by the guy flips him off and honks swerves back in front of him. Well Bruce had a smile on his face then a look of shock.



Bruce's reaction was perfect. A smile won't make everyone happy, but those that don't get it have bigger problems than a few "slow" old cars.

I treat every driver (even the bad ones) as if they are happy to see a Studebaker on the road. Usually a smile and polite wave...as an ambassador for the marque and SDC.

New slogan: Studebaker- We Take the High Road.

Andy
62 GT

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tim87114
07-07-2009, 11:10 PM
I think it take some big ones for tutone to admit his faults as I'm sure we've all been riled by the bad drivers.

When I first bought my motorcycle I was a very novice rider. In California you can get a "learner" permit to ride on the road. Not the interstate. However my truck broke down and I found myself needing to get to work. I took all side roads but was forced by a detour to take the 101 north to San Jose. It was the first time I had ever been on the freeway let alone had my motorcycle over 50mph. The speed limit on the 101 is 65 and I knew from commuting that 65 would be death sentance. I was getting passed, honked at, flipped off, and headlights flashed at. Later when I finally got my license I started riding my motorcycle on the 101. The thing is it opens up to a commuter lane and that is when what others are saying comes true.

In Cali the commuter lane is considered the autoban of the freeway. If the CA state trooper is ever looking for a meal ticket, average speed is 95mph in the commuter lane.

Also to the guy from Florida. I'm not sure about FL but in CA it is actually legal to lane share and split traffic on a motor cycle. This means, if your motorcycle can fit between stopped cars or in the lane with another car you can share the space with them.
This is for a couple of reasons. One, it keeps motorcycles moving through traffic and not having to stop. Two it allows a motorcycle to move to the front of the line.
You will find that the "commuter riders" in CA will own naked sport bikes, bmw's, or any bike with a very skinny footprint. This allows them to drive between cars. As scary as this sounds, it is actually very safe when you are trained to do so. Also, drivers in CA know that there are motorcycles doing this and most people in the fast lane will drive towards the far left of the lane. The people you have to watch out for are the out of towners whom don't know any better.

studeclunker
07-08-2009, 02:13 AM
I rode motorcycles from 1974 to 2000. I quit because of getting a commercial license and not having the time anymore to be in court once or twice a week making fools out of traffic cops (one of the perks). I tried the keeping to the lane and behaving like a car. This got me hit three times by people who's excuse was, "I didn't see him, he just came out of no-where." This from two of the idiots who had changed lanes right into me (no signals either). That's when I started and never stopped, lane splitting.

Now, as to the idiots who must go over the speed limit; I let them go. Always have. Every chance I get I pull over and let them pass. When I had horses, whilst towing, I always drove 55. Still do. It really pisses off the truckers from time to time, so I let them go by too. Ocassionally, I'll hold a speeder back while we're approaching a speed trap I know of then pull over and let them go just in time to explain it to the officer.;)

Whenever I take my Studebakers on the freeway, I ride in with the trucks. This keeps me to 55 or 65 MPH. Usually, I'll pick a slow one and just stay behind him. In this way, no one bothers me. Same thing when I take out one of the trailers; double-nickel, to the right, C-Ya speedie!:)

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5859
07-08-2009, 02:57 AM
I am surprised that any of you would drive dangerously when confronted with other drivers who are wreckless. I usually drive as safely as I can when I see dangerous drivers on the road, and shoot at them when it is safe for me to take my eyes off the road for a second. :D I really do hope anyone reading this understands that I am joking.:D

62champ
07-08-2009, 07:33 AM
I saw a Model T at a show once that had a bumper sticker.

"Keep on honking - this car has two speeds and this is the fast one..."

Loved it.

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DEEPNHOCK
07-08-2009, 07:46 AM
I drive a lot.
The art of driving in traffic is to look way ahead and plan your moves to be smooth...
Idjits who have to force there way in and weave in and out are usually mystified when, after a few miles, they find they have gained nothing.
After the gabazillionth idiot has gone around me...
I just "Let them go... to be the first at the accident"

My bigger concern is for the gawkers that are so busy looking at your Studebaker they wander over into your lane and start to run you off the road.

Drove 950 miles yesterday, and the only stupid driving I saw was in Atlanta and in Nashville. But that's normal for there[xx(]..
Jeff[8D]

warrlaw1
07-08-2009, 10:08 AM
Not to upstage 62Champ, but I was on the TransCanada (401) near Kingston (penitentiary town) and saw the bumper sticker:

"If you don't like the way I'm driving, help me get these handcuffs off!"

That should scare off any road ragers...

BobGlasscock
07-08-2009, 11:29 AM
"If you don't like the way I drive, get off the sidewalk!"

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tluz
07-08-2009, 11:37 AM
The driving tactics you all are describing are standard operating procedure up here in the Northeast. I learned to drive in Boston and now live in the New York suburbs and have observed a few unwritten rules adopted by the urban cowboys and jerks that rule the highways. They are, give or take a few:

(1) Never cede the passing lane. It doesn't matter whether the flow of traffic is faster than you, it is a sin to move right and let anyone else pass. If someone tries to pass on right because you refused to move, accelerate quickly to prevent this.

(2) Lane discipline is for the weak.

(3) Never signal your intentions; signaling will be used against you.

(4) It is OK to multi-task while you drive -- your stuff is far more important than some stupid law. This includes cell phones, text messages, makeup applications (the Long Island Expressway seems to specialize in this), and lunch.

(5) Seize every opportunity to move up a car length in traffic, no matter how risky.

(6) If you can intimidate another driver, do it.

(7) Don't worry about those lines in parking lots; they don't apply to you.

(8) Don't worry about those broken lines on highways, especially if you drive an enormous SUV; they don't apply to you either.

(9) Leave your high beams on whenever it's dark. It's more important that you see than the guy you just blinded.

(10)If anybody does any of the above to you, tailgate him, flash your high beams, lean on your horn and flip him off. That'll teach him.

Good luck dealing with your fellow drivers!

Nelsen Motorsports
07-08-2009, 12:20 PM
I had an incident on my bike a few weeks ago where I was going across a cross walk and this nice old lady decided to stop and let me pass, well she ended up with 10 cars behind her waiting to move and one of them (a guy in a Mercedes) (on the cell phone) decided he would get mad and started yelling at me. What did I do wrong?[?]

I just smiled and rode by.:)

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S_Ferrell
07-08-2009, 01:08 PM
What gets me is people on bikes, pedeling along, running stop signs and red lights. They think that since they are running green and exercising, that they are exempt from laws of the road. What really gets me, is that in Cleveland, we have a great park system, a bike rider will ride in my lane, forceing me to go into the other lane to get around him, when there is a brand new bike path fifty feet to his right.

DEEPNHOCK
07-08-2009, 02:24 PM
Riding in the crosswalk is illegal.
You are supposed to dismount, walk across with your bicycle, and remount.
If you were riding, you should have been in the traffic lane, riding with traffic.



quote:Originally posted by Nelsen Motorsports

I had an incident on my bike a few weeks ago where I was going across a cross walk and this nice old lady decided to stop and let me pass, well she ended up with 10 cars behind her waiting to move and one of them (a guy in a Mercedes) (on the cell phone) decided he would get mad and started yelling at me. What did I do wrong?[?]

I just smiled and rode by.:)

PlainBrownR2
07-08-2009, 03:47 PM
Bringing the Stude content back in with the bicyclists, in the times of yore bicycles were forbidden from state highways or highways with a busy thorougfare or little shoulder here. It made sense too, because now that we have the people from the city to contend with, they are everywhere!! They will ride two or three in a lane with little regard that the speed limits are 55 and it's open country. I'd take the Lark out and I would now have to dodge and weave around these people that show little regard for this 3000 lb steel beam that has to now go around them. It probably sounds like whining but there was a time when there were none out here and this law was strictly enforced.

Y'all know about my story about driving around Chicago here. I will say what Anne described is common practice in these parts. In recent years common sense has fallen by the wayside for "here I come, get outta my way" mentality, even down to the motorcyclists. My parents rode Harleys until it became too dangerous too ride around Chicago, so I make provisions around motorcycles. However, in two separate incidents in the last month I've had to make special arrangements of preventing an accident as the motorcyclists pulled two separate and very dangerous stunts that would have landed both of us in an accident if I didn't. One involved two motorcyclists, who had no helmet or chaps, that one motorcyclist decided the left lane I was getting into was too short(they were behind me), the other thought the double line prior to a curve and a bridge didn't apply to him. What's interesting was the latter ended up on the shoulder and nearly over the guardrail because the road curved up to the bridge approach. What's funny is they were incidents that they initiated, as opposed to something the driver had initiated:(.

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