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Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 08:30 AM
Some of us in the Washington area receive a free magazine (addressed to "resident") called "WF", which apparently stands for Washington's Finest. It's full of fancy ads and hagiographies of community leaders. Most articles seem to be rather shallow and admiring of their subjects (I only read a couple) and are probably written by recent college graduates trying to find a job in journalism or public relations. Heavy-duty historical research is probably not a requirement. I had never noticed the magazine until my wife showed me a picture of a Studebaker dealership in the latest issue.

The winter 2006 issue has an article on the family that owns American Service Center in Arlington, Va, which used to be a major Studebaker dealer and now sells only Mercedes-Benz. I don't think I need to point out the "Well, what did you expect?" statement.

"After the gas station opened, the co-founders decided to add a Studebaker franchise to the lot. This addtion to their company allowed for an increase in business and customer statisfaction. However, it wasn't until the end of World War II and the Korean War that things took a turn for the better. Studebaker, a now defunct automobile titan, began offering its chains an opportunity to take advantage of a rising franchise: Mercedes-Benz."

"on June 20, 1957, the founders cemented ASC's role as Arlington County's premier dealership when they began selling Mercedes-Benz vehicles -- a decision that would eventually net them a fortune. Though the sales were initially low, by 1967 they were outselling the Studebakers and helped put the business officially on the map."

Duh.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

N8N
01-01-2007, 08:35 AM
Was it you or JP that told me of a group of Stude enthusiasts that were run off ASC's lot when they showed up for a group photo?

I have no experience with ASC but I just don't like a lot of businesses in Arlington - the people at the Porsche dealership couldn't possibly be less helpful (and I showed up wearing a tie, no less, as I was in the area for a meeting that was cancelled.) Even though it's a little farther I will go to Tysons for Porsche dealer-only parts...

nate

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N8N
01-01-2007, 08:35 AM
Was it you or JP that told me of a group of Stude enthusiasts that were run off ASC's lot when they showed up for a group photo?

I have no experience with ASC but I just don't like a lot of businesses in Arlington - the people at the Porsche dealership couldn't possibly be less helpful (and I showed up wearing a tie, no less, as I was in the area for a meeting that was cancelled.) Even though it's a little farther I will go to Tysons for Porsche dealer-only parts...

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 09:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

Was it you or JP that told me of a group of Stude enthusiasts that were run off ASC's lot when they showed up for a group photo?

I have no experience with ASC but I just don't like a lot of businesses in Arlington - the people at the Porsche dealership couldn't possibly be less helpful (and I showed up wearing a tie, no less, as I was in the area for a meeting that was cancelled.) Even though it's a little farther I will go to Tysons for Porsche dealer-only parts...

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel


Was not me. I have never had any dealings with them pro or con. However, they are a high-end dealership that in the past has also sold Rolls Royce and Ferrari. I believe they are somewhat embarrassed about their Studebaker roots.


Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 09:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

Was it you or JP that told me of a group of Stude enthusiasts that were run off ASC's lot when they showed up for a group photo?

I have no experience with ASC but I just don't like a lot of businesses in Arlington - the people at the Porsche dealership couldn't possibly be less helpful (and I showed up wearing a tie, no less, as I was in the area for a meeting that was cancelled.) Even though it's a little farther I will go to Tysons for Porsche dealer-only parts...

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel


Was not me. I have never had any dealings with them pro or con. However, they are a high-end dealership that in the past has also sold Rolls Royce and Ferrari. I believe they are somewhat embarrassed about their Studebaker roots.


Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Dick Steinkamp
01-01-2007, 10:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie
by 1967 they were outselling the Studebakers and helped put the business officially on the map."


Yep...must have been a marketing genius to get the Mercedes volume to THAT kind of level [:o)]



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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
01-01-2007, 10:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie
by 1967 they were outselling the Studebakers and helped put the business officially on the map."


Yep...must have been a marketing genius to get the Mercedes volume to THAT kind of level [:o)]



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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

64V-K7
01-01-2007, 10:53 AM
I purchased parts from them quite often, back in the late 60's. Their parts counter was pretty helpful back then, as they still charged dealer prices. I recall a steering box for my 57 GH cost me around $75.00.

64V-K7
01-01-2007, 10:53 AM
I purchased parts from them quite often, back in the late 60's. Their parts counter was pretty helpful back then, as they still charged dealer prices. I recall a steering box for my 57 GH cost me around $75.00.

lstude
01-01-2007, 11:15 AM
I am not familiar with ASC even though I only live about 100 miles away, but one of the Studebaker dealerships in Richmond, David R. McGeorge, who took on MB has done very well although it wasn't always the case. I used to know the son of the owner who has now taken over the dealership. He struggled in the 70s and took on Triumph, Rambler and Toyota. I remember a time when he was begging me to buy a Gremlin. Of course, now he is doing extremely well with MB and Toyota. Another dealership that took on MB didn't survive. It was Coggins Motor Co. in Charlottesville, VA. Guido can probably tell more of it's history than I can, but below is a photo of the demolition of the building.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/CogginsStudebakerdemoMBsign.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
01-01-2007, 11:15 AM
I am not familiar with ASC even though I only live about 100 miles away, but one of the Studebaker dealerships in Richmond, David R. McGeorge, who took on MB has done very well although it wasn't always the case. I used to know the son of the owner who has now taken over the dealership. He struggled in the 70s and took on Triumph, Rambler and Toyota. I remember a time when he was begging me to buy a Gremlin. Of course, now he is doing extremely well with MB and Toyota. Another dealership that took on MB didn't survive. It was Coggins Motor Co. in Charlottesville, VA. Guido can probably tell more of it's history than I can, but below is a photo of the demolition of the building.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/CogginsStudebakerdemoMBsign.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 03:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:I believe they are somewhat embarrassed about their Studebaker roots.Maybe the author of the article interviewed them? [?]

DAVE, THE EVIL TWIN FROM OKLAHOMA
www.davesplaceinc.com


Right. That's probably the extent of the "research" conducted.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 03:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:I believe they are somewhat embarrassed about their Studebaker roots.Maybe the author of the article interviewed them? [?]

DAVE, THE EVIL TWIN FROM OKLAHOMA
www.davesplaceinc.com


Right. That's probably the extent of the "research" conducted.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

StudeRich
01-01-2007, 04:42 PM
WASHINGTON AREA? Ahh...I think you mean District of Columbia! [^]

I was wondering why I didn't get this mag, till I saw that you live in D.C. not Washington!

This is one for Andy Rooney!
Why is that? The news media always say Washington when they mean D.C. now they've got the whole world thinking that the District of Columbia is really "Washington" ? [xx(]


quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie

Some of us in the Washington area receive a free magazine

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
01-01-2007, 04:42 PM
WASHINGTON AREA? Ahh...I think you mean District of Columbia! [^]

I was wondering why I didn't get this mag, till I saw that you live in D.C. not Washington!

This is one for Andy Rooney!
Why is that? The news media always say Washington when they mean D.C. now they've got the whole world thinking that the District of Columbia is really "Washington" ? [xx(]


quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie

Some of us in the Washington area receive a free magazine

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 05:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

WASHINGTON AREA? Ahh...I think you mean District of Columbia! [^]

I was wondering why I didn't get this mag, till I saw that you live in D.C. not Washington!

This is one for Andy Rooney!
Why is that? The news media always say Washington when they mean D.C. now they've got the whole world thinking that the District of Columbia is really "Washington" ? [xx(]


quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie

Some of us in the Washington area receive a free magazine

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA


Rich-
Sorry. Good point.
I got into that habit because when people used to ask me where I lived, I would say "DC". ("District of Columbia" is quite a mouthful.) You'd be amazed at how many people don't know where that is or what that is. And like most people I sometimes have to show my drivers license when asked for ID. Same thing happens -- "Is that the Columbia in South America?". Or "Is that part of the US?". I guess I'll have to start saying "Washington, DC" and hope that that rings a bell.


Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Skip Lackie
01-01-2007, 05:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

WASHINGTON AREA? Ahh...I think you mean District of Columbia! [^]

I was wondering why I didn't get this mag, till I saw that you live in D.C. not Washington!

This is one for Andy Rooney!
Why is that? The news media always say Washington when they mean D.C. now they've got the whole world thinking that the District of Columbia is really "Washington" ? [xx(]


quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie

Some of us in the Washington area receive a free magazine

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA


Rich-
Sorry. Good point.
I got into that habit because when people used to ask me where I lived, I would say "DC". ("District of Columbia" is quite a mouthful.) You'd be amazed at how many people don't know where that is or what that is. And like most people I sometimes have to show my drivers license when asked for ID. Same thing happens -- "Is that the Columbia in South America?". Or "Is that part of the US?". I guess I'll have to start saying "Washington, DC" and hope that that rings a bell.


Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Guido
01-01-2007, 09:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude
Another dealership that took on MB didn't survive. It was Coggins Motor Co. in Charlottesville, VA. Guido can probably tell more of it's history than I can, but below is a photo of the demolition of the building.
Leonard,

Coggins was the M-B dealer until it was taken over by S-K Motors and subsequently by Hayne Dominick (who had the Chevrolet dealership while Coggins was in business). S-K was also the Volvo dealer and had a couple of small name European franchises such as MG. Coggins was also the Triumph dealer (also later taken over by S-K) up until at least 1969 as I recall getting the 4 inch bullseye decals from them at that time.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
01-01-2007, 09:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude
Another dealership that took on MB didn't survive. It was Coggins Motor Co. in Charlottesville, VA. Guido can probably tell more of it's history than I can, but below is a photo of the demolition of the building.
Leonard,

Coggins was the M-B dealer until it was taken over by S-K Motors and subsequently by Hayne Dominick (who had the Chevrolet dealership while Coggins was in business). S-K was also the Volvo dealer and had a couple of small name European franchises such as MG. Coggins was also the Triumph dealer (also later taken over by S-K) up until at least 1969 as I recall getting the 4 inch bullseye decals from them at that time.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

lstude
01-01-2007, 09:42 PM
quote:WASHINGTON AREA? Ahh...I think you mean District of Columbia!

I was wondering why I didn't get this mag, till I saw that you live in D.C. not Washington!

Growing up in Virginia and only 100 miles from D.C. we always refered to D.C. as Washington, as in we are going to Washington to see the Washington Monument and the cherry blossoms!

When we talked about the state of Washington we always called it Washington State.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
01-01-2007, 09:42 PM
quote:WASHINGTON AREA? Ahh...I think you mean District of Columbia!

I was wondering why I didn't get this mag, till I saw that you live in D.C. not Washington!

Growing up in Virginia and only 100 miles from D.C. we always refered to D.C. as Washington, as in we are going to Washington to see the Washington Monument and the cherry blossoms!

When we talked about the state of Washington we always called it Washington State.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg