Title on a car

[royvaldez]

Hello, Is it illegal or legal to sell a title only on a car I am parting out?

[studeclunker]

If you are speaking about pure legality? No it is'nt legal. A title is for one particular car only. However, what the DMV doesn't know...

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

[studeclunker]

If you are speaking about pure legality? No it is'nt legal. A title is for one particular car only. However, what the DMV doesn't know...

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

[Roscomacaw]

I wonder if it would be legal if you sold a part of the car (ONE part) with the title? Probably a stretch, but hey - so you had to replace a few things! [}]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

[Roscomacaw]

I wonder if it would be legal if you sold a part of the car (ONE part) with the title? Probably a stretch, but hey - so you had to replace a few things! [}]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

[rockne10]

Preferably the manufacturer's VIN plate. I think that would make it legal.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight

previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

[rockne10]

Preferably the manufacturer's VIN plate. I think that would make it legal.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight

previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

[Guido]

quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Preferably the manufacturer's VIN plate. I think that would make it legal.

As Brad points out, a title is probably of little value if not accompanied by a matching serial tag. If one has a matched pair, then they could swap the tag and use the title.

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

[Guido]

quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Preferably the manufacturer's VIN plate. I think that would make it legal.

As Brad points out, a title is probably of little value if not accompanied by a matching serial tag. If one has a matched pair, then they could swap the tag and use the title.

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

[KGlowacky]

I was told by a DMV employee(years ago) that is is illegal to remove a vin plate(rivets/welds) and sell it with a title, but you could sell the/a part of a car that contains the vin # (as it is then a car)and that was legal. He said the law is YOU CAN NOT REMOVE THE VIN NUMBER. With that said I believe as long as the car is in your name and legal, you can do what you feel comfortable with, with the understanding of the law. Keep in mind if you sell one and it is placed on a stolen car you may have some responsability. I removed mine to get the body dipped and I don't have any worry about placing it back on my car, but by the strickest of the law it could be considered illegal, go figure. Good Luck.

[KGlowacky]

I was told by a DMV employee(years ago) that is is illegal to remove a vin plate(rivets/welds) and sell it with a title, but you could sell the/a part of a car that contains the vin # (as it is then a car)and that was legal. He said the law is YOU CAN NOT REMOVE THE VIN NUMBER. With that said I believe as long as the car is in your name and legal, you can do what you feel comfortable with, with the understanding of the law. Keep in mind if you sell one and it is placed on a stolen car you may have some responsability. I removed mine to get the body dipped and I don't have any worry about placing it back on my car, but by the strickest of the law it could be considered illegal, go figure. Good Luck.

[Roscomacaw]

I had a Pick-a-Part yard give me grief over taking the body tag off a Stude. Didn't matter that I could show them the serial# tag was still in place on the door jamb. To this fella I was stealing it's VIN plate![B)]

I can honestly say that in my 33 years of Studebakering, I've never swapped Serial# plates to "recreate" a Stude. I know folks that have, but I never did. And yet I COULD go along with doing such to bring a car back to life so long as it wasn't stolen.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

[Roscomacaw]

I had a Pick-a-Part yard give me grief over taking the body tag off a Stude. Didn't matter that I could show them the serial# tag was still in place on the door jamb. To this fella I was stealing it's VIN plate![B)]

I can honestly say that in my 33 years of Studebakering, I've never swapped Serial# plates to "recreate" a Stude. I know folks that have, but I never did. And yet I COULD go along with doing such to bring a car back to life so long as it wasn't stolen.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

[53k]

quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Preferably the manufacturer's VIN plate. I think that would make it legal.

Brad Johnson

I put a title and VIN plate off a '59 4WD truck on ebay. They cancelled it the next day and gave me a warning.

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

[53k]

quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Preferably the manufacturer's VIN plate. I think that would make it legal.

Brad Johnson

I put a title and VIN plate off a '59 4WD truck on ebay. They cancelled it the next day and gave me a warning.

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine