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**JDP** · 05-27-2009, 12:48 PM

Darn the car looks much better then I expected, but then again, there are always surprise issues. A broken driver seat was a minor fix for Jeff, a loose door a bit more, but Jeff is knocking those issues off and a few more one by one. The air box has been hitting the hood, we suspect a bad motor mount and Jeff will have to fix that before he installs a new pad.
I won't ask him to deal with a cracked dash pad, they are on back order from SI this month. The good news it other then those issues so far, it's a runner and looks nice. I shocked the guy could not sell it locally for his asking price, must be the economy.

JDP/Maryland

**JBOYLE** · 05-27-2009, 01:40 PM

quote:Originally posted by JDP
I won't ask him to deal with a cracked dash pad, they are on back order from SI this month.
JDP/Maryland

They've been on back order for quite awhile, it seems.
If a forum member becomes the first to learn that they're back, please post the info...

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

**Chris Pile** · 05-27-2009, 02:20 PM

Hate the wheels.

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special

**Dick Steinkamp** · 05-27-2009, 02:40 PM

quote:Originally posted by Chris Pile

Hate the wheels.

...and tires. Looks like it's on it's tip toes and/or it's pants are too short

. Avanti's have too much wheel well showing stock. This one just compounds that unattractive look. Needs stock type wheels and caps and 205/215 75s.

(lower it an inch or two if you are brave

)

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

**Pat Skelly** · 05-27-2009, 02:54 PM

I shocked the guy could not sell it locally for his asking price, must be the economy.

JDP/Maryland

Only because I didn't have any more room.

Pat Skelly
62 GT Hawk
53 Studillac
37 Dictator Coupe

**DEEPNHOCK** · 05-27-2009, 03:35 PM

Well, That's easy...
The tires on this are like new, with the whitewalls inside...
Ask JP to toss the 5 stock hubcaps in if you hit the buy it now....

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/DSC01887.jpg

Pick up some steel wheels, mount the tires, sell the aluminum wheels, and it would be a wash....
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
...and tires. Looks like it's on it's tip toes and/or it's pants are too short

. Avanti's have too much wheel well showing stock. This one just compounds that unattractive look. Needs stock type wheels and caps and 205/215 75s.
(lower it an inch or two if you are brave

)

quote:Originally posted by Chris Pile

Hate the wheels.

**Dick Steinkamp** · 05-27-2009, 04:04 PM

quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

[navy][b]Well, That's easy...
The tires on this are like new, with the whitewalls inside...

What size are the tires. They look like low profile (not 75 aspect ratio). That's part of the "look" problem.

Also, those aluminum wheels would bring scrap value. Real Avanti wheels...more than that. I'd just "fix" it before putting it up for sale. My guess is that you'd gain far more than any cost diff.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

**mbstude** · 05-27-2009, 04:10 PM

Dick, the car is on its tip toes so it can handle that Georgia mud a little easier.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

**wcarroll@outrageous.net** · 05-27-2009, 04:18 PM

FWIW wheel-wise, those wheels I sold to Mr. Biggs that you delivered Dick will accept the stock Studebaker/Avanti hub caps.

They are American Racing AR767 wheels and are commonly available through most tire/wheel shops -incase someone is looking for a local source.

Here's the AR site:

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http://www.americanracing.com/browse_ar.asp

Page description

And Summit Racing's site with prices:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400082+300088+115&autoview=sku

How about some pics of that clone motor Jeff??

http://community.webshots.com/user/s2dbaker?vhost=community

**DEEPNHOCK** · 05-27-2009, 05:59 PM

Workin' on it right now...
Lot's of stuff to clean and polish.
Wonder if I should bother...
I posted one time and it took a whole 15 minutes for the thing to get picked apart....
This place can be as destructive as it can be creative[V].
Maybe it would be better to just shut up and post it on Ebay for auction.
As far as the engine goes....
Lets just say that I know why people complain about a lack of traction.
It runs strong, straight, and has great brakes.
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by wcarroll@outrageous.net
<snip>
How about some pics of that clone motor Jeff??
<snip>

**Dick Steinkamp** · 05-27-2009, 06:05 PM

quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

I posted one time and it took a whole 15 minutes for the thing to get picked apart....

I don't know about "picked apart". Two guys didn't like the wheels and one the tires (me).

It's a beautiful color and sounds like a nice driving car.

JDP slowed down his posting here because he wanted to pick apart others' cars and was discouraged by some for doing so.

Critiques OK on all cars EXCEPT JDP's [?]

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

**DEEPNHOCK** · 05-27-2009, 06:27 PM

My point was not who owns it, or who is selling it.
My point was that a car that is going to be sold can have that value degraded by the very forum that could and should be helping Studebaker sales values.
I have always hated picking apart an Ebay car 'during' the auction, unless it was a description error or mis-statement, and have stated so here many times.
But wheels and tires are cosmetic, and can be easily changed.
But a casual onlooker or lurker (have you guys looked at the new members on the forum roster lately?
And the miniscule number of post's thay have made?
There are a huge amount of lurkers that have not jumped 'into the frey' as they are just watching...
Then to see a potential Studebaker come along that might be offered up get 'critiqued' from the get go.....
Poor form in my opinion.
I can see where thick skin is needed.
Yes, I am biased in this instance.
It sure didn't take me long to find out what some others learned a long time ago.
Yes Dick.. Two guys....
One said 'I hate', and the other said 'I agree'...
That's how it starts.
Now that I have replied...It'll probably be ten times worse because now my detractors will just pile on.
And the Studebaker will be the one to suffer for it.
Your added comment about JP and his cars is not fair also.
He didn't have a darned thing to do with the post.
He didn't even know I was going to post it.
I just thought I'd share it a bit ahead of time... My bad...
OK..My rant is over
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
I don't know about "picked apart". Two guys didn't like the wheels and one the tires (me).
It's a beautiful color and sounds like a nice driving car.
JDP slowed down his posting here because he wanted to pick apart others' cars and was discouraged by some for doing so.
Critiques OK on all cars EXCEPT JDP's [?]

quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
I posted one time and it took a whole 15 minutes for the thing to get picked apart....

**JDP** · 05-27-2009, 06:32 PM

quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

I posted one time and it took a whole 15 minutes for the thing to get picked apart....

I don't know about "picked apart". Two guys didn't like the wheels and one the tires (me).

It's a beautiful color and sounds like a nice driving car.

JDP slowed down his posting here because he wanted to pick apart others' cars and was discouraged by some for doing so.

Critiques OK on all cars EXCEPT JDP's [?]

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Pick away that's why I wanted Jeff to post the pictures.(Wait until you see the poor dash pad) Jeff is just in a bad mood because the PO of the Avanti got him in trouble with the wife unit.

JDP/Maryland

**Dick Steinkamp** · 05-27-2009, 06:48 PM

quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

But wheels and tires are cosmetic, and can be easily changed.

You're right. Easy (and cheap) to change. I'd change them prior to putting it up for sale.

Not everyone has a good imagination when it comes to visualizing the car with better proportioned wheels and tires.

That might have been one of the reasons the PO had trouble getting market value for it.

A good looking car otherwise...and sorry I pizzed you off [:I]

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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