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bams50
12-25-2006, 12:15 PM
Was just looking at this car- looks to be an awesome car [:p] but was VERY impressed with the seller's description! He appears not only very intelligent but very knowledgeable about the subject:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-STUDEBAKER-HAWK-Restored-Low-Milage-Time-Warp_W0QQitemZ320064936517QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem

Naturally, one would need to be cautious with a deal like this... and the price is open to debate [:0]... but if I were in the market for one, based on what the seller wrote I would trust him enough to seriously look into his car [8D]

(Just wonder how after all that he managed to misspell "mileage"? [:I])














Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

41 Frank
12-25-2006, 12:21 PM
Bams this is Greg Diffens SDC member UK See 39 Conv Thread elsewhere here

41 Frank
12-25-2006, 12:21 PM
Bams this is Greg Diffens SDC member UK See 39 Conv Thread elsewhere here

Dick Steinkamp
12-25-2006, 12:45 PM
"gostude" (Greg) is a regular here with a VERY impressive collection of cars [:p]



http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-25-2006, 12:45 PM
"gostude" (Greg) is a regular here with a VERY impressive collection of cars [:p]



http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Roscomacaw
12-25-2006, 01:30 PM
THAT's purdy! Look at that factory correct AC unit![:0]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-25-2006, 01:30 PM
THAT's purdy! Look at that factory correct AC unit![:0]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

studegary
12-25-2006, 07:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Was just looking at this car- looks to be an awesome car [:p] but was VERY impressed with the seller's description! He appears not only very intelligent but very knowledgeable about the subject:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-STUDEBAKER-HAWK-Restored-Low-Milage-Time-Warp_W0QQitemZ320064936517QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem

Naturally, one would need to be cautious with a deal like this... and the price is open to debate [:0]... but if I were in the market for one, based on what the seller wrote I would trust him enough to seriously look into his car [8D]

(Just wonder how after all that he managed to misspell "mileage"? [:I])


Even I don't get too hung up on a couple of misspelled words in an eBay ad if the meaning is clear. When I look at the listing, "mileage" is correct. Did he correct the ad, or do you think that some other spelling is correct? I did notice the Loewy and transportation were misspelled.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
12-25-2006, 07:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Was just looking at this car- looks to be an awesome car [:p] but was VERY impressed with the seller's description! He appears not only very intelligent but very knowledgeable about the subject:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-STUDEBAKER-HAWK-Restored-Low-Milage-Time-Warp_W0QQitemZ320064936517QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem

Naturally, one would need to be cautious with a deal like this... and the price is open to debate [:0]... but if I were in the market for one, based on what the seller wrote I would trust him enough to seriously look into his car [8D]

(Just wonder how after all that he managed to misspell "mileage"? [:I])


Even I don't get too hung up on a couple of misspelled words in an eBay ad if the meaning is clear. When I look at the listing, "mileage" is correct. Did he correct the ad, or do you think that some other spelling is correct? I did notice the Loewy and transportation were misspelled.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

55s
12-25-2006, 07:42 PM
Greg Diffen originally came from Australia, then to Canada where he was an Ontario Chapter member, then on to several other countries, ending up in the U.K.

When he was here, he seemed to be straight-shooter, traded some parts, and enjoyed driving his Studes - he had a 1958 Packard Hawk that he restored, as well as others.

I personally think 32K may be high for a 61, but its his car, and he does "hold the cards". It looks very nice.

PaulR

55s
12-25-2006, 07:42 PM
Greg Diffen originally came from Australia, then to Canada where he was an Ontario Chapter member, then on to several other countries, ending up in the U.K.

When he was here, he seemed to be straight-shooter, traded some parts, and enjoyed driving his Studes - he had a 1958 Packard Hawk that he restored, as well as others.

I personally think 32K may be high for a 61, but its his car, and he does "hold the cards". It looks very nice.

PaulR

8E45E
12-25-2006, 07:58 PM
Even I don't get too hung up on a couple of misspelled words in an eBay ad if the meaning is clear. When I look at the listing, "mileage" is correct. Did he correct the ad, or do you think that some other spelling is correct? I did notice the Loewy and transportation were misspelled.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

You sure got hung up on the spelling of the color 'gray' or 'grey' that one time!!!:D

Craig

8E45E
12-25-2006, 07:58 PM
Even I don't get too hung up on a couple of misspelled words in an eBay ad if the meaning is clear. When I look at the listing, "mileage" is correct. Did he correct the ad, or do you think that some other spelling is correct? I did notice the Loewy and transportation were misspelled.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

You sure got hung up on the spelling of the color 'gray' or 'grey' that one time!!!:D

Craig

studeclunker
12-26-2006, 12:59 AM
I would truely love to see the drive on/off ship that can dock in Charlotte North Carolina! (LMAO:D) The city is at least a hundred miles from the coast!

He must mean Charleston.

It truely looks like a beautiful car. It would be nice to see it come home.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

studeclunker
12-26-2006, 12:59 AM
I would truely love to see the drive on/off ship that can dock in Charlotte North Carolina! (LMAO:D) The city is at least a hundred miles from the coast!

He must mean Charleston.

It truely looks like a beautiful car. It would be nice to see it come home.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

go-studebaker
12-26-2006, 11:44 AM
Hi guys,
sorry I misspelled a few words. You have to remember that we Aussies get a bit confused with the big words and when I set the ad, I sort of did it on the fly originally.

The Milage is now Mileage for all you spell checkers - thanks.

Buying cars from Overseas is always a tricky business. I have done it all my life as I have never lived in the land of plenty of Studebakers USA. However, prices are all over the board at the momemt. I remember when nice driving cars were 3 - 6 k in the late 1980's in Australia.

It seems to be the norm now for what looks like a good finned Hawk that is not restored to pull in the range of 10 - 15k. Things have just gone up and us older folk in Studes dont always want to keep up. We always live in the hope that a nice cheap one comes our way. They do occasionally, but when the price tag pops over the 30k band then far fewer people have that sort of loose cashola in their pockets.
Everything costs loads to do these days. There have been interesting topics on what it costs to get the chrome work done and then the problems associated with this. As I get a little older I find myself not wanting to do much restoration as the costs and problems get out of hand. I would rather buy a car done. I can do the mechanics and fettling myself, but for bodywork I am just useless. Oddly enough body work costs the most to repair, and I am a firm believer that rusty cars are not worth the trouble, unless you are that way inclined to tackle that, or the car is incredably rare.
This is the best finned Hawk I have ever owned. It is just a cracking examle of what a nice car should be. I think the aircon is a dealer install.

I enjoy the reads on the forum.

Seasons greetings from a gloomy UK. We had my 1939 Stude ragtop out on Chistmas day regardless.

Greg


Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1988 Avanti Convertible

go-studebaker
12-26-2006, 11:44 AM
Hi guys,
sorry I misspelled a few words. You have to remember that we Aussies get a bit confused with the big words and when I set the ad, I sort of did it on the fly originally.

The Milage is now Mileage for all you spell checkers - thanks.

Buying cars from Overseas is always a tricky business. I have done it all my life as I have never lived in the land of plenty of Studebakers USA. However, prices are all over the board at the momemt. I remember when nice driving cars were 3 - 6 k in the late 1980's in Australia.

It seems to be the norm now for what looks like a good finned Hawk that is not restored to pull in the range of 10 - 15k. Things have just gone up and us older folk in Studes dont always want to keep up. We always live in the hope that a nice cheap one comes our way. They do occasionally, but when the price tag pops over the 30k band then far fewer people have that sort of loose cashola in their pockets.
Everything costs loads to do these days. There have been interesting topics on what it costs to get the chrome work done and then the problems associated with this. As I get a little older I find myself not wanting to do much restoration as the costs and problems get out of hand. I would rather buy a car done. I can do the mechanics and fettling myself, but for bodywork I am just useless. Oddly enough body work costs the most to repair, and I am a firm believer that rusty cars are not worth the trouble, unless you are that way inclined to tackle that, or the car is incredably rare.
This is the best finned Hawk I have ever owned. It is just a cracking examle of what a nice car should be. I think the aircon is a dealer install.

I enjoy the reads on the forum.

Seasons greetings from a gloomy UK. We had my 1939 Stude ragtop out on Chistmas day regardless.

Greg


Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1988 Avanti Convertible

8E45E
12-26-2006, 01:25 PM
Seasons greetings from a gloomy UK. We had my 1939 Stude ragtop out on Chistmas day regardless.

Greg

I sure hope you can make to South Bend next year for the International Meet! No one expects you to bring a car over, but its always great to see fellow Stude lovers from all over the world!!

Craig.

8E45E
12-26-2006, 01:25 PM
Seasons greetings from a gloomy UK. We had my 1939 Stude ragtop out on Chistmas day regardless.

Greg

I sure hope you can make to South Bend next year for the International Meet! No one expects you to bring a car over, but its always great to see fellow Stude lovers from all over the world!!

Craig.

lstude
12-26-2006, 02:05 PM
quote:I sure hope you can make to South Bend next year for the International Meet! No one expects you to bring a car over, but its always great to see fellow Stude lovers from all over the world!!

Craig.

Bring all your cars to South Bend no matter how much it costs! I want to see them all! Just Kidding, Maybe some day I can afford to go to the UK. ;)

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
12-26-2006, 02:05 PM
quote:I sure hope you can make to South Bend next year for the International Meet! No one expects you to bring a car over, but its always great to see fellow Stude lovers from all over the world!!

Craig.

Bring all your cars to South Bend no matter how much it costs! I want to see them all! Just Kidding, Maybe some day I can afford to go to the UK. ;)

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

Guido
12-26-2006, 02:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude
Maybe some day I can afford to go to the UK. ;)
Leonard,

The way Greg appears to travel, he will probably be in New Zealand by the time you get your money saved up!

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
12-26-2006, 02:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude
Maybe some day I can afford to go to the UK. ;)
Leonard,

The way Greg appears to travel, he will probably be in New Zealand by the time you get your money saved up!

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

bams50
12-26-2006, 04:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by go-studebaker

Hi guys,
sorry I misspelled a few words. You have to remember that we Aussies get a bit confused with the big words and when I set the ad, I sort of did it on the fly originally.

The Milage is now Mileage for all you spell checkers - thanks.



I hope you didn't take offense- I didn't attend to give any [:I] My comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheeck; as an unintended good speller I get picked on (in fun only) sometimes if I don't comment- as in, "AHA! You missed that misspelled word in that ad!":D by people who are annoyed by good spellers; and I admit to a rather irritating problem with spelling errors jumping out at me [xx(]

I apologize if I inadvertently hurt your feelings with that lame attempt at humor... but the rest of what I wrote holds true! You're obviously very knowledgeable, and if I had the bucks, I'd be all over yours based on your listing.

Good luck! That is one beaudiful car!!



;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
12-26-2006, 04:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by go-studebaker

Hi guys,
sorry I misspelled a few words. You have to remember that we Aussies get a bit confused with the big words and when I set the ad, I sort of did it on the fly originally.

The Milage is now Mileage for all you spell checkers - thanks.



I hope you didn't take offense- I didn't attend to give any [:I] My comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheeck; as an unintended good speller I get picked on (in fun only) sometimes if I don't comment- as in, "AHA! You missed that misspelled word in that ad!":D by people who are annoyed by good spellers; and I admit to a rather irritating problem with spelling errors jumping out at me [xx(]

I apologize if I inadvertently hurt your feelings with that lame attempt at humor... but the rest of what I wrote holds true! You're obviously very knowledgeable, and if I had the bucks, I'd be all over yours based on your listing.

Good luck! That is one beaudiful car!!



;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

avantilover
12-27-2006, 03:35 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50


quote:Originally posted by go-studebaker

Hi guys,
sorry I misspelled a few words. You have to remember that we Aussies get a bit confused with the big words and when I set the ad, I sort of did it on the fly originally.

The Milage is now Mileage for all you spell checkers - thanks.



I hope you didn't take offense- I didn't attend to give any [:I] My comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheeck; as an unintended good speller I get picked on (in fun only) sometimes if I don't comment- as in, "AHA! You missed that misspelled word in that ad!":D by people who are annoyed by good spellers; and I admit to a rather irritating problem with spelling errors jumping out at me [xx(]

I apologize if I inadvertently hurt your feelings with that lame attempt at humor... but the rest of what I wrote holds true! You're obviously very knowledgeable, and if I had the bucks, I'd be all over yours based on your listing.

Good luck! That is one beaudiful car!!



;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1


No Robert, I'm sure Greg wasn't offended, it's what we call "taking the piss out of someone" and you'd say "taking the Mickey" some of us Aussies can use big words LOL

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
12-27-2006, 03:35 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50


quote:Originally posted by go-studebaker

Hi guys,
sorry I misspelled a few words. You have to remember that we Aussies get a bit confused with the big words and when I set the ad, I sort of did it on the fly originally.

The Milage is now Mileage for all you spell checkers - thanks.



I hope you didn't take offense- I didn't attend to give any [:I] My comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheeck; as an unintended good speller I get picked on (in fun only) sometimes if I don't comment- as in, "AHA! You missed that misspelled word in that ad!":D by people who are annoyed by good spellers; and I admit to a rather irritating problem with spelling errors jumping out at me [xx(]

I apologize if I inadvertently hurt your feelings with that lame attempt at humor... but the rest of what I wrote holds true! You're obviously very knowledgeable, and if I had the bucks, I'd be all over yours based on your listing.

Good luck! That is one beaudiful car!!



;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1


No Robert, I'm sure Greg wasn't offended, it's what we call "taking the piss out of someone" and you'd say "taking the Mickey" some of us Aussies can use big words LOL

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

hank63
12-27-2006, 06:32 AM
Too bl**dy right, mate
/H

hank63
12-27-2006, 06:32 AM
Too bl**dy right, mate
/H

go-studebaker
12-27-2006, 06:35 AM
Hi guys,
no offence was taken.

I admit I am a bad speller and always have been. These computers make me look a whole lot better....

By the way, this car in an odd way is fabulous value for anybody living in Europe EEC. Basically this car is priced at US 22k as good as it is and by the time you put duty and sales tax for EEC into it the price lands at US 30 - 31.5 k depending on the fluctuation of US exchange rate.

It is so so expensive to restore a car over here in the UK or Europe that even a decent paint job will set you back GBP 4 - 6k, That is US 8 -12k plus 17.5% VAT

I also think it is OK for the US as you can spend a lot of time in the shed playing cars to get one up and running fine. Once the car hits the time vortex of the paint shop it may be away years before it comes back. Paint and body shops generally seem to be unencumbered by modular time concepts.

Time to flip[ flop fly. I have a lot of toy sales to deal with over the next week. I am going for 600 items on ebay. Currently we are at 501. That is about 250 more than we have ever done before. I wonder if I have over done it a little.....

Anybody want a toy train....

Greg

Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1988 Avanti Convertible

go-studebaker
12-27-2006, 06:35 AM
Hi guys,
no offence was taken.

I admit I am a bad speller and always have been. These computers make me look a whole lot better....

By the way, this car in an odd way is fabulous value for anybody living in Europe EEC. Basically this car is priced at US 22k as good as it is and by the time you put duty and sales tax for EEC into it the price lands at US 30 - 31.5 k depending on the fluctuation of US exchange rate.

It is so so expensive to restore a car over here in the UK or Europe that even a decent paint job will set you back GBP 4 - 6k, That is US 8 -12k plus 17.5% VAT

I also think it is OK for the US as you can spend a lot of time in the shed playing cars to get one up and running fine. Once the car hits the time vortex of the paint shop it may be away years before it comes back. Paint and body shops generally seem to be unencumbered by modular time concepts.

Time to flip[ flop fly. I have a lot of toy sales to deal with over the next week. I am going for 600 items on ebay. Currently we are at 501. That is about 250 more than we have ever done before. I wonder if I have over done it a little.....

Anybody want a toy train....

Greg

Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1988 Avanti Convertible