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Randy_G
12-23-2006, 08:28 PM
Hemming Motor News has released its latest top 21 hottest Collector Cars. In no particular order this is how the editors of Hemmings Classic Car Magazine picked the top 21 Hottest Collector Cars. Check the list and see if you have one in your collection. You guys will glad to know that Studebaker has made this listing.

1. 1968-1970 AMC AMX
2. 1906-1910 Buick Model F
3. 1953-1954 Buick Skylark
4. 1939-1941 Cadillac Convertible
5. 1958 Chevrolet
6. 1960 Chevrolet Impala
7. 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6
8. 1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1
9. 1960 -1962 Chrysler 300F / G / H Convertible
10. 1961 Desoto Two-door Hardtop
11. 1970-1971 Dodge Challenger
12. 1965-1967 Ford Mustang K-code
13. 1957 Ford Thunderbird F-code
14. 1940 La Salle Convertible
15. 1967-1971 Oldsmobile W-30 & W-31
16. 1953-1954 Packard Convertible
17. 1970-1971 Plymouth 'Cuda
18. 1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO
19. 1953 Studebaker Starliner
20. 1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula
21. 1965 Shelby G.T. 350


Randy_G
1959 Studebaker Lark
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/small59.jpg

55s
12-23-2006, 08:59 PM
Only one Studebaker made the list - a 53.

They omitted Speedsters, 56-58 GHs, GT, Avantis, Packard Hawks, Larks, and many other Studes I would like to think are collectible.

I afraid I think the 1953 "choice" is a no-brainer, since its already won so many other awards.

Paul R

55s
12-23-2006, 08:59 PM
Only one Studebaker made the list - a 53.

They omitted Speedsters, 56-58 GHs, GT, Avantis, Packard Hawks, Larks, and many other Studes I would like to think are collectible.

I afraid I think the 1953 "choice" is a no-brainer, since its already won so many other awards.

Paul R

Dick Steinkamp
12-23-2006, 09:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Randy_G

Hemming Motor News has released its latest top 21 hottest Collector Cars. In no particular order this is how the editors of Hemmings Classic Car Magazine picked the top 21 Hottest Collector Cars.



Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me. Studes aside, it sure wouldn't be my list...

1906-1910 Buick Model F (huh??)

1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1 (by '72 this had ugly rubber baby bumpers. None of the beautiful 1st and 2nd gen body styles included. For gen 3's, the 68's and 69's were much better looking than the years selected)

1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO (but not the ground breaking '64's and 65's?)

1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula (come on...the muscle car era was over. These smoggers coldn't get out of their own way)

No 57 Chev?

No hemi roadrunners (or other 427 hemi cars)?

'60 Impala (this was a transition year between the love it or hate it '59 and the beautiful '61. '60 might be my LEAST favorite year).

'65 Shelby GT 350 AND '65 Mustang K code (essentially the same car...why both?)

Did they use a dart board or what? [V]

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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-23-2006, 09:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Randy_G

Hemming Motor News has released its latest top 21 hottest Collector Cars. In no particular order this is how the editors of Hemmings Classic Car Magazine picked the top 21 Hottest Collector Cars.



Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me. Studes aside, it sure wouldn't be my list...

1906-1910 Buick Model F (huh??)

1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1 (by '72 this had ugly rubber baby bumpers. None of the beautiful 1st and 2nd gen body styles included. For gen 3's, the 68's and 69's were much better looking than the years selected)

1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO (but not the ground breaking '64's and 65's?)

1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula (come on...the muscle car era was over. These smoggers coldn't get out of their own way)

No 57 Chev?

No hemi roadrunners (or other 427 hemi cars)?

'60 Impala (this was a transition year between the love it or hate it '59 and the beautiful '61. '60 might be my LEAST favorite year).

'65 Shelby GT 350 AND '65 Mustang K code (essentially the same car...why both?)

Did they use a dart board or what? [V]

http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Randy_G
12-23-2006, 09:17 PM
quote:

Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me. Studes aside, it sure wouldn't be my list...

1906-1910 Buick Model F (huh??)

1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1 (by '72 this had ugly rubber baby bumpers. None of the beautiful 1st and 2nd gen body styles included. For gen 3's, the 68's and 69's were much better looking than the years selected)

1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO (but not the ground breaking '64's and 65's?)

1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula (come on...the muscle car era was over. These smoggers coldn't get out of their own way)

No 57 Chev?

No hemi roadrunners (or other 427 hemi cars)?

'60 Impala (this was a transition year between the love it or hate it '59 and the beautiful '61. '60 might be my LEAST favorite year).

'65 Shelby GT 350 AND '65 Mustang K code (essentially the same car...why both?)

Did they use a dart board or what? [V]

http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA


I am glad I did not compile this list , Dont shoot the messenger.:D OK Dick you asked for it and this straight from the page of Hemmings Classic Car- In a scene out of Stanley Kramer's It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World,the staff submitted their nominations, then gathered for a roundtable discussion- It didn't matter whether out tastes reside in brass, muscle, pre-war or post-war- to hammer the dents out of the oil pan of confusion as to what's hot, and what's not. We dove deep into auction trends, as well as the goings on inside the cover of Hemming Motor News to confirm or deny the status of our full-size list. Eliminating the one-offs and concept cars that the common Joe has no chance of buying, here is a compact version of what we've arried at in alphabetical order. That is it, all meat no tattors, that is how they came to there conclusion.

Randy_G
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/small59.jpg

Randy_G
12-23-2006, 09:17 PM
quote:

Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me. Studes aside, it sure wouldn't be my list...

1906-1910 Buick Model F (huh??)

1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1 (by '72 this had ugly rubber baby bumpers. None of the beautiful 1st and 2nd gen body styles included. For gen 3's, the 68's and 69's were much better looking than the years selected)

1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO (but not the ground breaking '64's and 65's?)

1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula (come on...the muscle car era was over. These smoggers coldn't get out of their own way)

No 57 Chev?

No hemi roadrunners (or other 427 hemi cars)?

'60 Impala (this was a transition year between the love it or hate it '59 and the beautiful '61. '60 might be my LEAST favorite year).

'65 Shelby GT 350 AND '65 Mustang K code (essentially the same car...why both?)

Did they use a dart board or what? [V]

http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA


I am glad I did not compile this list , Dont shoot the messenger.:D OK Dick you asked for it and this straight from the page of Hemmings Classic Car- In a scene out of Stanley Kramer's It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World,the staff submitted their nominations, then gathered for a roundtable discussion- It didn't matter whether out tastes reside in brass, muscle, pre-war or post-war- to hammer the dents out of the oil pan of confusion as to what's hot, and what's not. We dove deep into auction trends, as well as the goings on inside the cover of Hemming Motor News to confirm or deny the status of our full-size list. Eliminating the one-offs and concept cars that the common Joe has no chance of buying, here is a compact version of what we've arried at in alphabetical order. That is it, all meat no tattors, that is how they came to there conclusion.

Randy_G
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/small59.jpg

Anne F. Goodman
12-23-2006, 09:56 PM
1. 1968-1970 AMC AMX
2. 1906-1910 Buick Model F
3. 1953-1954 Buick Skylark
4. 1939-1941 Cadillac Convertible
5. 1958 Chevrolet
6. 1960 Chevrolet Impala
7. 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6
8. 1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1
9. 1960 -1962 Chrysler 300F / G / H Convertible
10. 1961 Desoto Two-door Hardtop
11. 1970-1971 Dodge Challenger
12. 1965-1967 Ford Mustang K-code
13. 1957 Ford Thunderbird F-code
14. 1940 La Salle Convertible
15. 1967-1971 Oldsmobile W-30 & W-31
16. 1953-1954 Packard Convertible
17. 1970-1971 Plymouth 'Cuda
18. 1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO
19. 1953 Studebaker Starliner
20. 1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula
21. 1965 Shelby G.T. 350

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
61 Lark VIII
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035

Anne F. Goodman
12-23-2006, 09:56 PM
1. 1968-1970 AMC AMX
2. 1906-1910 Buick Model F
3. 1953-1954 Buick Skylark
4. 1939-1941 Cadillac Convertible
5. 1958 Chevrolet
6. 1960 Chevrolet Impala
7. 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6
8. 1970-1972 Chevrolet Corvette LT-1
9. 1960 -1962 Chrysler 300F / G / H Convertible
10. 1961 Desoto Two-door Hardtop
11. 1970-1971 Dodge Challenger
12. 1965-1967 Ford Mustang K-code
13. 1957 Ford Thunderbird F-code
14. 1940 La Salle Convertible
15. 1967-1971 Oldsmobile W-30 & W-31
16. 1953-1954 Packard Convertible
17. 1970-1971 Plymouth 'Cuda
18. 1969-1971 Pontiac Ram-Air IV GTO
19. 1953 Studebaker Starliner
20. 1973-1974 Pontiac Super Duty Trans Am & Formula
21. 1965 Shelby G.T. 350

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
61 Lark VIII
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035

studegary
12-24-2006, 11:20 AM
I've only owned two cars from this list, a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T and several 1953 Studebaker Starliners, but I have also owned some near, like a 1968 Corvette convertible.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
12-24-2006, 11:20 AM
I've only owned two cars from this list, a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T and several 1953 Studebaker Starliners, but I have also owned some near, like a 1968 Corvette convertible.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

lstude
12-24-2006, 11:40 AM
61 DeSoto two door hardtops ? [:0] I have never seen one of them at Hershey or Carlisle and not even at the Chrysler Club national meet I went to last summer. I know that was the last year for DeSoto, but if they wanted a DeSoto in there, I have seen lots of 56 Adventurers at shows!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-24-2006, 11:40 AM
61 DeSoto two door hardtops ? [:0] I have never seen one of them at Hershey or Carlisle and not even at the Chrysler Club national meet I went to last summer. I know that was the last year for DeSoto, but if they wanted a DeSoto in there, I have seen lots of 56 Adventurers at shows!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

BobPalma
12-24-2006, 12:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

61 DeSoto two door hardtops ? [:0] I have never seen one of them at Hershey or Carlisle and not even at the Chrysler Club national meet I went to last summer. I know that was the last year for DeSoto, but if they wanted a DeSoto in there, I have seen lots of 56 Adventurers at shows!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/


:) Chances are you won't see many 1961 DeSoto 2-door hardtops, Leonard; they only made 911 [:0] of them, per The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1945-1975! :) BP

BobPalma
12-24-2006, 12:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

61 DeSoto two door hardtops ? [:0] I have never seen one of them at Hershey or Carlisle and not even at the Chrysler Club national meet I went to last summer. I know that was the last year for DeSoto, but if they wanted a DeSoto in there, I have seen lots of 56 Adventurers at shows!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/


:) Chances are you won't see many 1961 DeSoto 2-door hardtops, Leonard; they only made 911 [:0] of them, per The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1945-1975! :) BP

bams50
12-24-2006, 01:27 PM
We could go on all week arguing this list; I'll just say that to me it's silly [:o)]

Leaving out 69 Camaros (for one)...[:0][:I]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
12-24-2006, 01:27 PM
We could go on all week arguing this list; I'll just say that to me it's silly [:o)]

Leaving out 69 Camaros (for one)...[:0][:I]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

lstude
12-24-2006, 01:51 PM
quote:Chances are you won't see many 1961 DeSoto 2-door hardtops, Leonard; they only made 911 of them, per The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1945-1975! BP

I agree that lists like this are silly and only offer meat for arguments, but a 61 DeSoto two door hardtop can't be thought of as a hot item in collectible circles. And as for the production figures, they made more 61 DeSoto two door hardtops than Studebaker produced of my 64 Daytona convertible and there were 3 of them at the Atlantic Zone Meet last summer, and 2 at Hershey. [:p][:0][8D]

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
12-24-2006, 01:51 PM
quote:Chances are you won't see many 1961 DeSoto 2-door hardtops, Leonard; they only made 911 of them, per The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1945-1975! BP

I agree that lists like this are silly and only offer meat for arguments, but a 61 DeSoto two door hardtop can't be thought of as a hot item in collectible circles. And as for the production figures, they made more 61 DeSoto two door hardtops than Studebaker produced of my 64 Daytona convertible and there were 3 of them at the Atlantic Zone Meet last summer, and 2 at Hershey. [:p][:0][8D]

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

JBOYLE
12-24-2006, 02:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me.

No 57 Chev?


My guess is the 57 Chevy is already on everyones list (like a 63-67 Corvette and non K-code Mustangs) besides it's overpriced in the market (though they're not bringing the stupid prices at auctions that they did in recent years).

Here's a good argument starter...57 Chevy: Icon or cliche? :D

It's one of those cars I propably wouldn't buy simply because seemingly everybody has one (again like first generation Mustangs). What's the point of having a collector car if it's so common nobody cares?
We'll never have that problem with Studebakers.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
12-24-2006, 02:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me.

No 57 Chev?


My guess is the 57 Chevy is already on everyones list (like a 63-67 Corvette and non K-code Mustangs) besides it's overpriced in the market (though they're not bringing the stupid prices at auctions that they did in recent years).

Here's a good argument starter...57 Chevy: Icon or cliche? :D

It's one of those cars I propably wouldn't buy simply because seemingly everybody has one (again like first generation Mustangs). What's the point of having a collector car if it's so common nobody cares?
We'll never have that problem with Studebakers.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

StudeDave57
12-24-2006, 03:26 PM
quote:Here's a good argument starter...57 Chevy: Icon or cliche?

I'm going to just stay away from that one~ I have an opinion~
and it's a VERY STRONG ONE!!!

quote:It's one of those cars I propably wouldn't buy simply because seemingly everybody has one (again like first generation Mustangs). What's the point of having a collector car if it's so common nobody cares?
I couldn't have said that better myself!!! That's just one of the reasons I enjoy my rides as much as I do.


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
12-24-2006, 03:26 PM
quote:Here's a good argument starter...57 Chevy: Icon or cliche?

I'm going to just stay away from that one~ I have an opinion~
and it's a VERY STRONG ONE!!!

quote:It's one of those cars I propably wouldn't buy simply because seemingly everybody has one (again like first generation Mustangs). What's the point of having a collector car if it's so common nobody cares?
I couldn't have said that better myself!!! That's just one of the reasons I enjoy my rides as much as I do.


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Roscomacaw
12-24-2006, 06:18 PM
One odd point that I haven't seen anyone make here is that if you're gonna cite the 53 Starliner, why not the 54 as well??? They're virtually identical save for almost unnoticable trim details. And yet, the 53's the that gets lauded. I'm not saying that the 54 has to have it's own ranking in the list, just that it should have read #19 '53/'54 Studebaker Starliner [^]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-24-2006, 06:18 PM
One odd point that I haven't seen anyone make here is that if you're gonna cite the 53 Starliner, why not the 54 as well??? They're virtually identical save for almost unnoticable trim details. And yet, the 53's the that gets lauded. I'm not saying that the 54 has to have it's own ranking in the list, just that it should have read #19 '53/'54 Studebaker Starliner [^]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Dick Steinkamp
12-25-2006, 12:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE


quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me.

No 57 Chev?


My guess is the 57 Chevy is already on everyones list (like a 63-67 Corvette and non K-code Mustangs) besides it's overpriced in the market (though they're not bringing the stupid prices at auctions that they did in recent years).

Here's a good argument starter...[b]57 Chevy: Icon or cliche? :D

It's one of those cars I propably wouldn't buy simply because seemingly everybody has one (again like first generation Mustangs). What's the point of having a collector car if it's so common nobody cares?



I'm sure we would all have different lists than this one. Most of ours would have a few more Studebakers on them [8D].

THIS list is supposedly "The HOTTEST Collector Cars"...researched through auction trends, etc. With that criteria, it makes absolutely no sense. With that criteria, it SHOULD include the collector cars that everybody has (the most popular...most desired...hottest). I can't believe a 1906 Buick is a "hot" collector car (by any definition). Same goes for most of the rest of the list. Mind you, I'm not talking about what would be on MY list, I'm talking about what SHOULD be on a Hottest Collector Car list compiled by professional and knowledgable car people through research of auction trends, etc.

I think the editors of Hemmings Classic Car Magazine need to get out more. [^]

http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-25-2006, 12:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE


quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Does anyone happen to know what the criteria was for this list? Seems strange to me.

No 57 Chev?


My guess is the 57 Chevy is already on everyones list (like a 63-67 Corvette and non K-code Mustangs) besides it's overpriced in the market (though they're not bringing the stupid prices at auctions that they did in recent years).

Here's a good argument starter...[b]57 Chevy: Icon or cliche? :D

It's one of those cars I propably wouldn't buy simply because seemingly everybody has one (again like first generation Mustangs). What's the point of having a collector car if it's so common nobody cares?



I'm sure we would all have different lists than this one. Most of ours would have a few more Studebakers on them [8D].

THIS list is supposedly "The HOTTEST Collector Cars"...researched through auction trends, etc. With that criteria, it makes absolutely no sense. With that criteria, it SHOULD include the collector cars that everybody has (the most popular...most desired...hottest). I can't believe a 1906 Buick is a "hot" collector car (by any definition). Same goes for most of the rest of the list. Mind you, I'm not talking about what would be on MY list, I'm talking about what SHOULD be on a Hottest Collector Car list compiled by professional and knowledgable car people through research of auction trends, etc.

I think the editors of Hemmings Classic Car Magazine need to get out more. [^]

http://static.flickr.com/140/326548308_6bc94ec0f3_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA