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StudeRich
12-23-2006, 02:30 AM
Wow! Either someone at the Studebaker National Museum is smoking something or the owner of this '58 Scotsman 2 door sedan on eBay is!! [:0][:0] "I contacted the studebaker musuem and gave them the vin # and they said it was a frontiersman" Where do you suppose they got that? I would think he would not make that up, unless he somehow got it wrong.
"the musuem said they only made this car for six months" also not likely! Looks like an ordinary '58G-F1 to me! He seems to know it's a Scotsman, his title says: 1958 Studebaker Scottsman/Frontiersman.
"Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-studebaker-running-good-ready-to-finish_W0QQitemZ140066669012QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

lstude
12-23-2006, 06:27 AM
I doubt whether this guy ever contacted the Museum or that they told him that. He probably heard it from some guy who was looking at his car. Like the guy who said that Studebaker stopped making the 289 V8 because they sold it to Ford. When people emailed him about it, he said that everyone who had looked at the car had told him that. I have heard many times people telling a friend, at a car show, information that was wrong about Studebakers. At Hershey I was looking at a 61 Hawk and a guy was telling his wife/girlfriend that this was the car that people couldn't tell which way it was going. She looked at those big fins on the back and looked very puzzled, but didn't say anything.

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lstude
12-23-2006, 06:27 AM
I doubt whether this guy ever contacted the Museum or that they told him that. He probably heard it from some guy who was looking at his car. Like the guy who said that Studebaker stopped making the 289 V8 because they sold it to Ford. When people emailed him about it, he said that everyone who had looked at the car had told him that. I have heard many times people telling a friend, at a car show, information that was wrong about Studebakers. At Hershey I was looking at a 61 Hawk and a guy was telling his wife/girlfriend that this was the car that people couldn't tell which way it was going. She looked at those big fins on the back and looked very puzzled, but didn't say anything.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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CHAMP
12-23-2006, 07:14 AM
Thats a common mistake among people. They know that Studebaker is known for not knowing whether its coming or going they just don't know that is just certain models of Studebakers, not all of them. What most don't know is that Studebakers are different by design!!!

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
12-23-2006, 07:14 AM
Thats a common mistake among people. They know that Studebaker is known for not knowing whether its coming or going they just don't know that is just certain models of Studebakers, not all of them. What most don't know is that Studebakers are different by design!!!

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

Roscomacaw
12-23-2006, 01:15 PM
I actually feel envious towards folks that espouse comments like this. It's said that "Ignorance is Bliss". I could use a whopping helping of bliss!;)
Maybe I could get an idea of what it feels like if I went to a vintage Mustang gathering, stared under the hood of one and professed that the engine had first been used in 1956 by Studebaker.[:p]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-23-2006, 01:15 PM
I actually feel envious towards folks that espouse comments like this. It's said that "Ignorance is Bliss". I could use a whopping helping of bliss!;)
Maybe I could get an idea of what it feels like if I went to a vintage Mustang gathering, stared under the hood of one and professed that the engine had first been used in 1956 by Studebaker.[:p]

Miscreant adrift in
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

studeclunker
12-23-2006, 01:28 PM
Who cares what he calls it? At the price the thing is going for, what a nice driver it would make!! Smile, nod and haul it away laughing at his ignorance.

If I had the money, I'd buy it for my son. Garrett wouldn't care about any kind of name mixup... He'd be delighted with a car that has a great paint job and nice upholstry.

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studeclunker
12-23-2006, 01:28 PM
Who cares what he calls it? At the price the thing is going for, what a nice driver it would make!! Smile, nod and haul it away laughing at his ignorance.

If I had the money, I'd buy it for my son. Garrett wouldn't care about any kind of name mixup... He'd be delighted with a car that has a great paint job and nice upholstry.

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Ron Smith

5859
12-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Have you ever heard of the optional single fog light that Studebaker offered in place of the bullet on 50 and 51 models? It seems like I heard that one after the movie Tucker came out.

5859
12-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Have you ever heard of the optional single fog light that Studebaker offered in place of the bullet on 50 and 51 models? It seems like I heard that one after the movie Tucker came out.

StudeRich
12-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Actually Ron, I didn't ever say it was NOT a nice car, it's a sweet looking car that will probably sell too cheap. My point was about the "Museum's" comment, and of course I understand that it is not proven to be a true statement. As we all know, some sellers will say anything that they believe will help sell it! :D


quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

[font=Comic Sans MS]Who cares what he calls it? At the price the thing is going for, what a nice driver it would make!! Smile, nod and haul it away laughing at his ignorance.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
12-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Actually Ron, I didn't ever say it was NOT a nice car, it's a sweet looking car that will probably sell too cheap. My point was about the "Museum's" comment, and of course I understand that it is not proven to be a true statement. As we all know, some sellers will say anything that they believe will help sell it! :D


quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

[font=Comic Sans MS]Who cares what he calls it? At the price the thing is going for, what a nice driver it would make!! Smile, nod and haul it away laughing at his ignorance.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

bams50
12-23-2006, 04:27 PM
I e-mailed this guy and told him that since he didn't put a reserve he was legally bound to sell it at the end, regardless of what it draws; here's his reply:

thanks for the info

[:o)]

So tell me; if I buy it for that cheap, any of you CA guys willing to get it and keep until I can arrange shipping? [:p]




Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
12-23-2006, 04:27 PM
I e-mailed this guy and told him that since he didn't put a reserve he was legally bound to sell it at the end, regardless of what it draws; here's his reply:

thanks for the info

[:o)]

So tell me; if I buy it for that cheap, any of you CA guys willing to get it and keep until I can arrange shipping? [:p]




Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

lstude
12-23-2006, 04:53 PM
Watch him. I have seen people withdraw auctions early when they didn't think they were going to get what they wanted![xx(]

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-23-2006, 04:53 PM
Watch him. I have seen people withdraw auctions early when they didn't think they were going to get what they wanted![xx(]

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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studeclunker
12-23-2006, 05:00 PM
Nothing ventured nothing gained...:D

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Ron Smith

studeclunker
12-23-2006, 05:00 PM
Nothing ventured nothing gained...:D

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Lotsa Larks!
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Ron Smith

bams50
12-23-2006, 05:02 PM
Oh, yeah, Leonard- I'm sure that's what he'll do... happened last week with a 61 Lark I was on...:(

Still, I'll be watching- and bidding at the end- just in case...;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
12-23-2006, 05:02 PM
Oh, yeah, Leonard- I'm sure that's what he'll do... happened last week with a 61 Lark I was on...:(

Still, I'll be watching- and bidding at the end- just in case...;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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Chris Pile
12-23-2006, 06:26 PM
Regardless of his description, how many times has he listed this thing on eBay in the last year?

Chris Pile
The Studebaker Special
Midway Chapter SDC

Chris Pile
12-23-2006, 06:26 PM
Regardless of his description, how many times has he listed this thing on eBay in the last year?

Chris Pile
The Studebaker Special
Midway Chapter SDC

showbizkid
12-23-2006, 06:41 PM
Didn't I read somewhere about a "Frontiersman" model being a trimmed-up model with special nameplates made by a dealer somewhere in the Midwest? Or was that one of the AMC special wagons they did in the late '60s? My mind is fuzzy [B)]


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showbizkid
12-23-2006, 06:41 PM
Didn't I read somewhere about a "Frontiersman" model being a trimmed-up model with special nameplates made by a dealer somewhere in the Midwest? Or was that one of the AMC special wagons they did in the late '60s? My mind is fuzzy [B)]


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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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Roscomacaw
12-23-2006, 07:47 PM
AMC wagons.;) I have a name script from a Mariner.[^]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-23-2006, 07:47 PM
AMC wagons.;) I have a name script from a Mariner.[^]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Studedude1961
12-23-2006, 08:28 PM
Was this car or another Scotsman listed on eBay some months ago as a "Frontiersman?" I seem to recall we had this discussion before.

Frontiersman was a special AMC station wagon circa 1967...this was marketed in the Midwest. There was a Southwestern edition wagon the name of which I forget and a wagon I believe called the Mariner for the coastal areas.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
12-23-2006, 08:28 PM
Was this car or another Scotsman listed on eBay some months ago as a "Frontiersman?" I seem to recall we had this discussion before.

Frontiersman was a special AMC station wagon circa 1967...this was marketed in the Midwest. There was a Southwestern edition wagon the name of which I forget and a wagon I believe called the Mariner for the coastal areas.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser