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lstude
12-19-2006, 06:10 AM
Many of you probably know about the web site Autonews.com, but if you don't go to: http://autonews.com and click on this logo:

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where it says Sign up for email alerts. They will send you emails about what is going on in the auto industry. It is free unless you want in depth reports, then you have to subscribe. Many of the emails are very interesting like this one about a ship load of Mazdas being scrapped.



Mazda to scrap all cars on board Cougar Ace

Mark Rechtin

LOS ANGELES -- Mazda North American Operations will scrap all 4,703 vehicles that were aboard the freighter Cougar Ace when it foundered at sea this year.

Previously, Mazda stated it would have engineers evaluate all the vehicles to determine which to scrap or to sell through a used-car program. However, given that the provenance of the vehicles might come into doubt in several years' time, Mazda decided to avoid a potential customer-satisfaction nightmare by scrapping all the vehicles.

The Cougar Ace went into a 60-degree list on its trans-Pacific run in July when its ballast was displaced, but the ship was towed into port and righted. Some of the cargo was under water. Other cars were dry, held in place by their mounts, and showed little visible sign of damage.

"We just couldn't take the risk of there being unforeseen issues down the road," said Mazda spokesman Jeremy Barnes.

"There were two camps of potential buyers. One was, 'Where can I get one cheap?' The others were worried they might get one by accident and weren't going to shop Mazda as a result."

The tally of lost vehicles was 2,475 Mazda3 sedans, 329 Mazda3 five-doors, 56 Mazda5 minivans, 1,329 CX-7 crossovers, 214 RX-8 sports cars, 5 MazdaSpeed6 sedans and 295 MX-5 Miata convertibles.

Although maritime insurance is a relatively convoluted process, the main insurer of the cargo was industry conglomerate ACE Ltd., based in Hamilton, Bermuda.


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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Daan
12-20-2006, 08:13 AM
THere's been lots of discussion about this very subject over at www.miata.net Most of it being "where can I get a cheap, damp MX-5". It's kind of funny that I hear this final bit about this over at the Stude website and not the Miata one...

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Daan
12-20-2006, 08:13 AM
THere's been lots of discussion about this very subject over at www.miata.net Most of it being "where can I get a cheap, damp MX-5". It's kind of funny that I hear this final bit about this over at the Stude website and not the Miata one...

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i44/DansStudes/

hank63
12-20-2006, 09:18 PM
Probably a wise decision to scrap 'em. I checked out an Aston Martin for a friend. It was a Lagonda (the wedge shaped one), used, but very low mileage. The "high tide" water mark was visible on the floor carpet at the gear box tunnel. The car looked superb internally, but under the dash pad there was a horrible mass of corrosion. All metal, cable harness connectors and electronic units were totally covered by rust/corrosion.
U/floor items also looked rather affected.
Considering the probable repair cost of unique electronics for such a rare, low-volume car, I advised against purchase.
Even at a cheap purchase price, it looked like a looming financial head ache.
/H

hank63
12-20-2006, 09:18 PM
Probably a wise decision to scrap 'em. I checked out an Aston Martin for a friend. It was a Lagonda (the wedge shaped one), used, but very low mileage. The "high tide" water mark was visible on the floor carpet at the gear box tunnel. The car looked superb internally, but under the dash pad there was a horrible mass of corrosion. All metal, cable harness connectors and electronic units were totally covered by rust/corrosion.
U/floor items also looked rather affected.
Considering the probable repair cost of unique electronics for such a rare, low-volume car, I advised against purchase.
Even at a cheap purchase price, it looked like a looming financial head ache.
/H

Challenger
12-21-2006, 07:20 PM
The kicker was that the ship sat partially capsized for several months before the vehicles were unloaded. Still, I figure they should refurbish and ship the undamaged or lightly damaged cars to some third-world country where the consumers are not sue-happy like they are here. Then, donate the rest of them to automotive tech schools so the students can work on them for practice. The value of the shipment is in excess of $100 million.

Challenger
12-21-2006, 07:20 PM
The kicker was that the ship sat partially capsized for several months before the vehicles were unloaded. Still, I figure they should refurbish and ship the undamaged or lightly damaged cars to some third-world country where the consumers are not sue-happy like they are here. Then, donate the rest of them to automotive tech schools so the students can work on them for practice. The value of the shipment is in excess of $100 million.

Sonny
12-21-2006, 11:30 PM
Uhm, not trying to sound mean spirited here Leonard, but I'm having to stretch, quite a distance, to connect scrapping Studebakers with the drowning/loss of a bunch of new ***-mobiles.....

Anyway, thanks for the Autonews link! Oops, wait a minute, I'm having to stretch, quite a distance, to see the connection...... Oh never mind! [:o)];):D

(Just pullin' your chain a little Leonard.... [:I])

Sonny
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Sonny
12-21-2006, 11:30 PM
Uhm, not trying to sound mean spirited here Leonard, but I'm having to stretch, quite a distance, to connect scrapping Studebakers with the drowning/loss of a bunch of new ***-mobiles.....

Anyway, thanks for the Autonews link! Oops, wait a minute, I'm having to stretch, quite a distance, to see the connection...... Oh never mind! [:o)];):D

(Just pullin' your chain a little Leonard.... [:I])

Sonny
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Sonny
12-23-2006, 05:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:(Just pullin' your chain a little Leonard.... [:I])Good to see you, Sonny. You should come around more often... it's been some time since we have pulled each other's chains! :D

DAVE, THE EVIL TWIN FROM OKLAHOMA
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I do get here every so often, just not as often as I'd like. Good to see you're still hangin' in there too!! Stop by the racing forums when you get a chance.

Yeah, you know me Dave; a little chain pullin' keeps the capillaries opened up! :D


Sonny
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Sonny
12-23-2006, 05:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:(Just pullin' your chain a little Leonard.... [:I])Good to see you, Sonny. You should come around more often... it's been some time since we have pulled each other's chains! :D

DAVE, THE EVIL TWIN FROM OKLAHOMA
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www.davesplaceinc.com


I do get here every so often, just not as often as I'd like. Good to see you're still hangin' in there too!! Stop by the racing forums when you get a chance.

Yeah, you know me Dave; a little chain pullin' keeps the capillaries opened up! :D


Sonny
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lstude
12-23-2006, 06:44 PM
quote:(Just pullin' your chain a little Leonard....

I don't mind my chain being pulled a little bit. I just thought this was an interesting story. I see some other non-Stude threads on here, too, such as the Chalmers and the 34 Packard that are on eBay.;)

Diversity is a good thing! [:o)]

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-23-2006, 06:44 PM
quote:(Just pullin' your chain a little Leonard....

I don't mind my chain being pulled a little bit. I just thought this was an interesting story. I see some other non-Stude threads on here, too, such as the Chalmers and the 34 Packard that are on eBay.;)

Diversity is a good thing! [:o)]

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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