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289stude
04-10-2009, 05:06 PM
I don't think there are any suprises here, but I'm no expert at decifering these things, anything jump out at ya?


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John

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg

2R5
04-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Did all the 63s come with the sliding roof? I see there is no mention of it on the built sheet.

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Bob Langer
04-10-2009, 06:15 PM
The wet air cleaner was not available with the Avanti engine.

Bob Langer
Glenshaw,PA

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289stude
04-10-2009, 06:27 PM
I was wondering about that air cleaner, it definatly has the chrome air cleaner, but I don't know what the wet air cleaner is.




John

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg

PlainBrownR2
04-10-2009, 06:28 PM
Is the HD Flightomatic the column or the Powershift(floor). Ordinarily, the JT engines had the Powershift floor model, rather than the column version. I have only ever seen one other, that was a Lark with the JTS engine, have the column Flightomatic from the factory.

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289stude
04-10-2009, 06:34 PM
It's the column shift, I know there are only 4 other R1 wagons listed on the JT registry, but I don't know what tranny they have. Some of the owners listed are on this forumn, hopefully they will respond with the info.




John

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg

sals54
04-10-2009, 06:40 PM
I know of a JTS GT which has the column shift as well. It panned out as a factory install. I thought that was weird, too.

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BobGlasscock
04-10-2009, 06:43 PM
wet air cleaner is the oil bath style.

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289stude
04-10-2009, 06:48 PM
Thats what I was assuming, It definatly does NOT have an oilbath air cleaner.



John

63' R1 Wagonaire

63' 8E45 Detroit

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg

mbstude
04-10-2009, 07:43 PM
Michael Float who sometimes posts on here has a '63 Wagonaire with R1, but his car is a 3 speed on the column.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

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289stude
04-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Hey Matthew does he know about the JT registry, I just looked and he's not on it. I am going to register soon. so far there is only 4 Wagons on it.

James Bell
Alan Songer
Nelson Bove
Mark Dahl

Does anybody know anything about their cars?



John

63' R1 Wagonaire

63' 8E45 Detroit

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg

64hawk
04-10-2009, 08:31 PM
i have a 63 GT Hawk parts car with JT engine and HD flightomatic. so they are out there, however few they may be

BobPalma
04-10-2009, 08:48 PM
:) To straighten out a couple things for you, John:

1. The car was built too early to have a floor (Powershift) automatic. The build date of Oct 17, 1962 was almost four months before Powershift Automatic became available on Larks and Hawks.

2. If it has an automatic transmission, it would have been built with either a standard-duty Flightomatic or a Heavy-Duty Flightomatic. Your Build Order indicates HD, so look to see if the transmission has cooler lines running to a lower tank in the bottom of the radiator. If it does, it's an HD unit.

3. The fixed-roof wagon option didn't come along that early, although I can't say for sure when it did become available. A car this early would have no mention of a sliding or fixed roof on the Build Order because, at the time, they all had sliding roofs.

4. The Wet Air Cleaner specified was likely an error, and one that has been made before; i.e., specified but not installed on the car in production. R1 engines did have the thin-profile, flash-chrome air cleaner with which I think you said your car is still equipped.

It's a good score and an interesting car, John. I'm glad to see it being rescued; it certainly appeared close to death! :DBP

289stude
04-10-2009, 09:08 PM
Whats up with the electric windows?

Option # 44 electric rear windows
Option # 63 electric winds

I know it has an electric rear window in the tailgate, and all the side windows are crank style. But why plural and why two different codes?

Also what does "Day 8" mean?





John

63' R1 Wagonaire

63' 8E45 Detroit

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg

BobPalma
04-10-2009, 09:31 PM
:) Option 63 always confuses people, John. It is short for Electric Windshield Washers.

Option 44 is just that: Electric Rear Window, but they mean tailgate only. The plural "s" is simply a mistake in the order code as originally typed. (Remember, there's also a mistake in the Wet Air Cleaner specification!)

DAY 8 is simply shorthand for Daytona V-8. It could have been DAY 6 and that would denote a Daytona Six. :DBP

bams50
04-10-2009, 09:56 PM
Amazing! I had the same questions John had; now I have the answers too, so I'll know when he gets sick of it and sells it to me;)

JB, did you get the engine to turn?

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Parish, central NY 13131

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StudeRich
04-10-2009, 10:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by 289stude

/Cut/ so far there is only 4 Wagons on it.

James Bell
Alan Songer
Nelson Bove
Mark Dahl

Does anybody know anything about their cars?
John

I think we can scratch one off the list, Alan Songer parted that one out a while ago and I have a lot of the pieces!

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StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA

R2Andrea
04-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Cool car. I wouldn't push it out of my driveway. Ive seen a number of mistakes like th wet air cleaner on various production orders while I was doing research. 4 bbl. carb on a JT car was a fairly common one. The people on the line would have caught it. I just wonder about the Car Billing Dept.

R2Andy

Bordeaux Daytona
04-11-2009, 01:01 AM
quote:Originally posted by 289stude

Hey Matthew does he know about the JT registry, I just looked and he's not on it. I am going to register soon. so far there is only 4 Wagons on it.

James Bell
Alan Songer
Nelson Bove
Mark Dahl

Does anybody know anything about their cars?



John

63' R1 Wagonaire

63' 8E45 Detroit

53' 2R5 R1 Powershift TT Under Construction

57' Transtar 304 NP540 4:09 TT Under Construction (in Picture)

58' 3E6D Stock Sale Pending

61' 6E7 122 Factory Auto

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p99/289stude/transtar3-1-2.jpg



Mark Dahl passed away and his wagon was all apart. The shell and chassis were on ebay a few years back. I should have bid on it. :(


Pretty neat wagon you have!:D

Allan Songer
04-11-2009, 11:19 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich
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I think we can scratch one off the list, Alan Songer parted that one out a while ago and I have a lot of the pieces!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/studerich/My64Daytona.jpg
StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA


Yeah, and the engine, rear axle, traction bars and rear sway bar live on in my '56 Champion hot rod!

That rust bucket Wagonaire was an EXCELLENT organ doner!!