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yorgatron
04-08-2009, 06:59 PM
'63 Wagonaire,S.F. Bay Area Ca.
this car is currently my brother's daily driver,and he's broke,so any help would be appreciated in finding a good used winshield.

wagons ho!

StudeRich
04-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Sorry your brother is in a fix for one. :(
He can use one from ANY body type of '63 Lark or a '64 Wagonaire or Convertible Windshield. :)

The new ones are around $325.00 but by the time you add $125.00 shipping, $80.00 for a new gasket and $100.00 R&R Labor they're starting to get a bit pricey, so that probably will not be an option.

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bams50
04-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Hey, if he's broke, then he can't drive it anyway, so problem solved, right??:D

I'd guess he'd have to pay at LEAST $100 for a used one, if he can find one- plus installation. Good luck!

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N8N
04-08-2009, 07:23 PM
eh, you can install a '63 windshield yourself. It's not like a '62 which is a little more complicated. I'd go ahead and order a new gasket now though... odds of reusing the old gasket (shakes magic 8-ball) "very doubtful."

nate

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wolfie
04-08-2009, 07:44 PM
If you have an AGI (Auto Glass International?)near you check them. My local guy here operates under a different name but I think he gets his glass from AGI and listed all the windows for my 53. I needed the side glasses so that is all I priced but they were extremely reasonable. I didnt buy them yet but only because I have a line on correct date coded glass I want to try first. Steve

Alan
04-08-2009, 07:45 PM
Yorg, Check with Bob Peterson or Studes West in Red Wood City.

53k
04-08-2009, 08:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by yorgatron

'63 Wagonaire,S.F. Bay Area Ca.
this car is currently my brother's daily driver,and he's broke,so any help would be appreciated in finding a good used winshield.

Check with Bob Peterson in Castro Valley/Hayward. He has parted out many cars of that vintage. He does business as CanBStudebakers. He's a Forum poster too.




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candbstudebakers
04-08-2009, 09:28 PM
I might have a used one left, if his is broken then it can be removed with out cutting the rubber and in a pinch use it again, then are easy to put in if you don't put the stainless in it , my guy charges about $150.00 to install but he knows what he is doing but then should have new rubber, and if I have one it would be $100.00, call me at 510-266-2522

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JBOYLE
04-09-2009, 01:02 PM
I'm guessing to comprehensive insurance? If he's that broke, does he have ANY insurance?

At the risk of sounding like a cold-hearted rich guy SOB (I'll beat some of you to the punch :D) if he can't afford to maintain his car in a safe operating condition...like having a legal windshield...then he better start taking the bus.

Not only for the safety of him and his family, but for the innocent people who might get hurt by a marginally-maintained, unsafe car sharing the road.

Caution RANT ahead: This may not necessarily apply to the guy in question, but I don't want some guy hitting me because he finds other uses for his money other than fixing his car. If I'm hurt in an accident, I'm not going to want to hear some guy blaming povery for operating an unsafe car. It's bad enough we have to pay extra insurance to make up for people who don't think laws apply to them because they're broke.
Sometimes we forget owning a car is a resposibility..not a right. They can kill people.
This is serious stuff.

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1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Steve T
04-09-2009, 01:28 PM
Point taken...but, speaking as someone whose auto insurance renewal invoice arrived a couple days ago, this guy may very well be "that broke" because he has insurance...[xx(]

S.

rockinhawk
04-09-2009, 02:11 PM
Anyone can get down on their luck! Leave the fellow alone if you can't help him. I could probably help him out, but I'm on the wrong coast. Sorry. NT


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Hazlehurst, GA
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'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
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yorgatron
04-09-2009, 03:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

[font=Arial]I'm guessing to comprehensive insurance? If he's that broke, does he have ANY insurance?


yes,he has insurance,but not full coverage.
He works with the autistic and developmentally disabled,and even though he can take public transit,there are times when he wants to go to the store or the movies or some other activity,which tends to be rather modest given what he's paid.
I have a suggestion for you,why don't you put a sock in it? :(

wagons ho!

yorgatron
04-09-2009, 03:05 PM
and another thing,this car has power disc brakes,and he's a far better driver than 99% of the idiots that live here in San Jose.
I wish I could tell you what I really think of you,but this is a public forum and there might be some people who are easily offended by off-color language.



wagons ho!

yorgatron
04-09-2009, 04:19 PM
Have you ever noticed how rich guys always complain about everything like we're inconveniencing them for wanting to drive a classic car down to the cruise night to get a burger every now and then?
Most rich guys are crybabys,always complaining about how the poor people are ruining everything.
Well,let me apologize for not delivering your bailout money in a gold-plated wheelbarrow there,Scrooge McDuck.
[xx(]

wagons ho!

tutone63
04-09-2009, 05:51 PM
Yorgatron, Don't get too upset. Yes, may have been judgemental. But for the sake of the forum and this post, (eg> getting it locked) It would be advisable to cool down a bit. I too am a studebaker owner with less than average income. I understand what it is like to have your car break down and be out of luck without money to get it fixed (part of the reason why I learned to work on them myself) There are times on this forum when things are said that are upsetting...mainly because many of us have very strong beliefs and convictions when it comes to our lives.

I can understand JBOYLE's stand, it is lives, and it is up to us to keep our vehicles safe and roadworthy.

On the other hand, to those concerned: A windshield is not your average piece of maintenance, like changing oil, lights, bushings or brake pads (or even break lines) These items are relatively cheap, and can be done in an afternoon (or a few hours) at home. Whereas a windshield is a major investment and a chore to change out. Very few can do it themselves and those who can, usually charge a fair price, but hard to obtain in a pinch for the one who has to pay for it. I have actually been in this scenario in college. I maintain my cars mechanically well, and other than my Studebaker, my cars are not really that aesthetically appealing...mainly because I can't justify paying for a daily driver to look good when it functions perfectly looking rough. (The Lark is an exception, as it is a classic and worth keeping up)


I have full coverage insurance on my Lark, but Liability only on my other cars...mainly because I couldn't afford it, and I personally don't think that they are worth it. If they get killed...well, I will look for another cheap daily driver to fix up and put on the road. Honestly, every car that I have right now (except for my Lark) I had to put some work into to get them back on the road and safe, but for my budget, it is the best thing to do.


I guess the way I see it is "judge not" since we do not know the situation. This is a happy place!:)

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JBOYLE
04-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Hey I didn't mean to make anyone upset and may have been a bit too outspoken, but it's a hot button with me.
I don't care what kind of car you have, or who much money you make or what you do for a living...it's up to us to keep our cars safe.

It's as simple as that.
Period.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

ST2DE5
04-09-2009, 06:33 PM
THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO GET ANOTHER WINDSHIELD. IF I EVER NEED A WINDSHIELD I SURE WON'T POST IT HERE.
YOU GUYS JUST RAN ANOTHER ONE OFF.

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rockinhawk
04-09-2009, 07:15 PM
I don't see a cracked windshield as a safty item unless it is cracked in the drivers line of vision. My work truck,a big diesel dually, had a crack off to the side when I bought it used 3 years ago. It still has the same crack in it. I would guess that 40% of the trucks around here involved in construction, timber, and farming,have slight cracks in the windshields. It sounds to me like this guys local govt just wants to get into his pocket. I had some of those problems when I lived in the big city. That's why I moved to the swamps of south Ga.


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
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ST2DE5
04-09-2009, 07:21 PM
I had a small crack in the 51 for years. One night I hit a deep mud hole full of water and the crack went clear across the windshield. I guess that qualify s me as a unsafe driver.

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utfanatic
04-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Your probably right ST2DE5

Well, I'm going to add my two cents. I've been reading alot of negative post lately. One claiming a auction on eBay was a scam. It WAS NOT. Proof in the pictures. He never apologized or retracted his post. Could have cost a seller a sale too. Maybe not. I'm new. I've yet to criticize another. But if I do by example my turn is coming up. Just today. Rat Rods to windshields. Both have negative input. I thought this was a well tuned group.

There is a saying. "If you won't say it to there face, then don't say it"! There is a wealth of information on this board. Some of the posters arrogance outweighs thier seniority. My future technical posting will be closely guarded or probably kept to myself.

If I had that windshield, I'd give it to they guy just because he was down on his luck. I'd probably ship it to him. FREE too!!

Turkey season is indeed open and with all the sniping, it will be short season. Good day. robert=-


quote:Originally posted by ST2DE5

THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO GET ANOTHER WINDSHIELD. IF I EVER NEED A WINDSHIELD I SURE WON'T POST IT HERE.
YOU GUYS JUST RAN ANOTHER ONE OFF.

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buddymander
04-09-2009, 07:50 PM
If I had a windshield, I'd be happy to put it on ebay and email anybody interested with the item number. My Dodge has a crack in the windshield. I wonder if it's as bad as your friend's? It's okay, tho, if I slam into somebody cuz I cant see, I'll just claim it wasn't broken before the accident and get a new one that way.

mbstude
04-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Someone get this fella a windshield... I don't even have a nice one for my own '63, but there's enough Stude folks out in California that I'm sure that someone out there has this glass for cheap.

I'm a broke teenager that drives his Stude everyday. The '58 is my only way to get around and I fix it up as my wallet allows. If not for a granddad with loads of parts cars and free assistance, I'd probably be driving a Honda or some other boring car. :)

Gotta give the guy credit for actually DRIVING his Studebaker. [^]

BTW, I know one guy that has probably $1000.00 in his Hawk's windshield. That's after buying new glass and paying to have it installed, twice I think... And, it still doesn't fit right. It can get expensive.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

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yorgatron
04-10-2009, 06:12 PM
I just installed a rebuilt power brake booster last week,so this is stretching the budget a little.
we aren't asking for charity,just a reasonable deal.
If we bought a new windshield and gasket and had it professionally installed it would be more than the darn thing is worth.

That's another thing,I read plenty of complaints about the price of Studebakers here,if it's not "they want too much" then it's "they won't pay me what I think it's worth" [8]

We've been old car nuts for all our lives,Oldsmobile,Hudson,Cadillac,and plenty of others,but never been so shabbily treated until we got this Studebaker,so this will be sold,probably at a loss,and I seriously doubt we will get another [|)]


wagons ho!

N8N
04-10-2009, 06:48 PM
hey, don't take it badly... just get a decent windshield, a new gasket (you'll probably need it) and some rope caulk and sealer from your FLAPS, a roll of stranded THHN or similar wire and a little dish soap from your local hardware store (the kind contractors use to pull through conduit) and put it in yourself. It ain't rocket surgery. rope caulk goes on the body, sealer goes in the windshield channel, put the stainless in the gasket BEFORE it goes in the body. Wrap the wire around the body lip channel of the gasket, overlapping at the bottom. Set in place, pull the lip of the gasket over the body lip with a wire, smack it a couple times to seat it, et voila. reinstall any trim you removed, clean, drive happy.

you can do this yourself, there's not much curve to a '63 windshield, so even if you get it 1/16" off or so it's not going to crack on you.

nate

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studeclunker
04-10-2009, 11:59 PM
I can sympathise with you, Yogatron. My situation is similar to yours. The main reason I drive Studees is because of the inexpensive (by comparison) cost of parts. Call around to the glass places in your area. It's likely there's one that can accomodate you. The Wagonaire has a relatively flat windshield and it should be fairly easy to get replaced. Check with Bob as he's already said he has one for you. Between the two, you should be able to get this done fairly inexpensively.

Boyle, quit... just quit. You've done enough damage here. Your post went off half-cocked. How do you know that the fellow didn't take a rock on the freeway? It happens fairly often in California. Happened to me recently. Now my pickup needs a new windshield as well. Fortuneately a Chevy is easy to replace. My friend Paula had a rock chip caused crack on her Toyota, replaced the windshield and had it happen again a week later! So... stuff happens. Chill out, dude!

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Nitram
04-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by JBOYLE

Hey I didn't mean to make anyone upset and may have been a bit too outspoken, but it's a hot button with me.
I don't care what kind of car you have, or who much money you make or what you do for a living...it's up to us to keep our cars safe.
It's as simple as that.
Period.

SHEESH !
[u]He is obviously trying to find a replacement windshield.</u>
If you are truly sorry, delete your original post that got everyone so upset. There is a "trash can" icon above your post that allows you to do this.

Your arrogance is uncalled for.

jnormanh
04-11-2009, 02:00 PM
Please check with Safelite, www.safelite.com They may be able to provide and install this, and they are VERY reasonable. They came to my house and replaced the windshield in my wife's Volvo for $105, and in my Caddy for $115.

Laemmle
04-11-2009, 07:39 PM
When did G-D die and leave you in charge? Don't assume you have all the facts here....and as far as the rant you should have kept it to yourself.......the man asked for a little help that's all.....jeez...




quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

I'm guessing to comprehensive insurance? If he's that broke, does he have ANY insurance?

At the risk of sounding like a cold-hearted rich guy SOB (I'll beat some of you to the punch :D) if he can't afford to maintain his car in a safe operating condition...like having a legal windshield...then he better start taking the bus.

Not only for the safety of him and his family, but for the innocent people who might get hurt by a marginally-maintained, unsafe car sharing the road.

Caution RANT ahead: This may not necessarily apply to the guy in question, but I don't want some guy hitting me because he finds other uses for his money other than fixing his car. If I'm hurt in an accident, I'm not going to want to hear some guy blaming povery for operating an unsafe car. It's bad enough we have to pay extra insurance to make up for people who don't think laws apply to them because they're broke.
Sometimes we forget owning a car is a resposibility..not a right. They can kill people.
This is serious stuff.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

kurtruk
04-11-2009, 07:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by jnormanh

Please check with Safelite, www.safelite.com They may be able to provide and install this, and they are VERY reasonable. They came to my house and replaced the windshield in my wife's Volvo for $105, and in my Caddy for $115.


IF Safelite is even willing to do this vehicle, I can Gar-un-tee you they can't even buy the windshield that cheap![8]

KURTRUK
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curt
04-11-2009, 08:14 PM
I lived in PA for years, cars were inspected for safety 2x a year. When I moved to Kansas they did not have auto inspection. Much to my surprise the car safety seemed to be no different in KS. Cracked windshields are common out in these parts( I live in OK now). They get so much mud from farm traffic that a stone on the car's windshield is common. I have replaced two windshields in 28 years and none of the cracked windshields were a problem. Sometimes a crack can be a reflection problem, most of the time the crack is just ,that a crack.

candbstudebakers
04-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Yorgatron, I checked my stock and am all out of 63's have 5 for the 64 2 and 4 doors but nothing to fit the 63, they are close but a little smaller, I gave the last one away when I gave the 63 2 door away, if I can help in any other way just ask...Bob

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bridgegaurd
04-12-2009, 12:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by yorgatron


We've been old car nuts for all our lives,Oldsmobile,Hudson,Cadillac,and plenty of others,but never been so shabbily treated until we got this Studebaker,so this will be sold,probably at a loss,and I seriously doubt we will get another [|)]

wagons ho!
I know your upset, and i can see why. But don't let the rude spouters drive you away. 90% of the post on here are great. And i've had strangers offer me more help than people i know.

This is a great club and it's made up of some great people. Hopefully you'll find what you want. And you and your brother will stay in the Stude world. Don't let one bad experience drive you away.

gordr
04-12-2009, 04:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by bridgegaurd


quote:Originally posted by yorgatron


We've been old car nuts for all our lives,Oldsmobile,Hudson,Cadillac,and plenty of others,but never been so shabbily treated until we got this Studebaker,so this will be sold,probably at a loss,and I seriously doubt we will get another [|)]

wagons ho!
I know your upset, and i can see why. But don't let the rude spouters drive you away. 90% of the post on here are great. And i've had strangers offer me more help than people i know.

This is a great club and it's made up of some great people. Hopefully you'll find what you want. And you and your brother will stay in the Stude world. Don't let one bad experience drive you away.




Please let me second that. Of all the posts on this thread, you have had exactly ONE that was unduly judgmental. One. All the rest have either offered helpful suggestions, or have stood up and defended you.

I KNOW I have a Wagonaire windshield squirreled away. But I'm in Alberta, not in California, and I'm away from home at work, and expect to remain away for 2 more weeks. Otherwise, I would tote it with me to Bellingham, WA, when I next go there. If you are willing to wait a month or so, you can have it, for free, if you can arrange onward transport from Bellingham. As I remember, the windshield was free of cracks, but might have had some light scratching or one or two stone dings. But it's been in the rafters of the barn for 10 years, so who knows what might have happened since.

Use the "e-mail poster" link to send me an e-mail if you are interested.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

Nitram
04-13-2009, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by yorgatron
We've been old car nuts for all our lives,Oldsmobile,Hudson,Cadillac,and plenty of others,but never been so shabbily treated until we got this Studebaker,so this will be sold,probably at a loss,and I seriously doubt we will get another [|)]

Sure hope JBOYLE is happy.

Laemmle
04-13-2009, 09:42 PM
JBoyle tends to be a bully and full of bragadosia...I know this from personal experience.

Do not sell the Stude!......one fool should not cause you to leave....we are really good sincere folks here!

Nitram
04-18-2009, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Laemmle
JBoyle tends to be a bully and full of bragadosia...I know this from personal experience.


Has anyone heard if Yorgatron was able to find a windshield? Was he helped instead of crucified?
Anybody follow-up with him?