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Scott
04-03-2009, 10:04 AM
While we don't often talk about Studebaker after the end of automobile manufacturing in 1966, and when we do, it often looks like it was still a weak corporation, consider this:

In 1964, ALCO (the locomotive manufacturer) was bought by Worthington (sound familiar?). In 1969 Derald Ruttenberg became the new president of the merged Studebaker-Worthington. Apparently by that time ALCO was considered a "financially unsound component" of the corporation and Ruttenberg saw to it that ALCO was closed down - after 121 years of continuous production. That also has a familiar ring to it.

Actually, as a business, the corporation seems to have flourished under Ruttenberg (who died in 2004). By the time of the McGraw-Edison acquisition Ruttenberg was extremely rich. From the sounds of it he put the wealth of any former Studebaker president or CEO to shame.

Also interesting is that he purchased a huge estate in Great Britain near a little town called...Edzell. I am not making this up.

Skip Lackie
04-03-2009, 12:36 PM
Yes. Alco was really the only steam engine manufacturer that truly successfully transitioned to diesels (sounds familiar), albeit for only about 25 years. Alco manufactured the engines, car bodies, and many other assemblies, but relied on GE for the motors and other electrical components. When GE decided to enter the diesel locomotive market themselves, Alco got pushed down to a minor #3 player, well behind GE and the Electromotive Division of GM. Alco's Canadian subsidiary, the Montreal Locomotive Works, hung on for another ten years building locomotives to the original Alco design.

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

showbizkid
04-03-2009, 04:54 PM
Also like Studebaker, ALCO and MLW were innovators. The "safety cab" design they pioneered for CN has become standard equipment on a large percentage of North American locomotives in the years since.


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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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Studebaker Wheel
04-04-2009, 12:36 AM
And the similarities continue. The real estate assets and other non monetary holdings of ALCO were disposed of by none other that Ed Dunbar who presided over the sale of all Studebaker properties. He is still alive and residing in South Bend. I talk to him occasionally.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

8E45E
04-04-2009, 09:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by Skip Lackie
Alco manufactured the engines, car bodies, and many other assemblies,

Alco did try their hand at road vehicles for a while, although unsuccessfully in the heavy truck market.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3411916364_468d98ea1a_o.jpg

Craig

mausersmth
04-04-2009, 03:02 PM
My love for Alco locomotives goes back to my childhood, even befor I knew what a Studebaker was!
Alco was known for their styling (The PA-1 of the late '40s is considered by many to be the best looking diesel locomotive, EVER!) and their distinctive exaust note. (Four cycle when most competitors used two cycle. Sounded like a herd of old John Deere tractors!)
My personal favorite locomotive came from the Richmond Works of Alco in 1901: Maryland and Pennsylvania #6, a 4-4-0 passenger engine that served between Baltimore and York up to '52.Both my parents grew up listening to her whistle!
http://external.bcpl.lib.md.us/hcdo/images/900_999/9224032.jpg
Charles Eck
Essex, MD

'57 Commander 4 door sedan
'66 Ford F-250
'66 Ford F-100
'53 John Deere 50
'41 John Deere H All-Fuel
'41 John Deere B All-Fuel

Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)

studegary
04-04-2009, 04:19 PM
For many (50-60) years, I had an ALCO piston that my father cut in half and made bookends out of for me.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

STEWDI
04-05-2009, 09:32 PM
Alco automobiles were built 1909 to 1913. About 5000 built in that time - then the company realized that they lost an average of $460.00 on EACH of those cars (and they sold for $6,000.00 or more!!), so they "pulled the plug". The Alcos were extremely and exceptionally well- built.
You are very lucky (and wealthy) person if you own one.

Roger "153624" Hill

55 Champion
47 M-5
Izzer Buggy
Junior Wagon

PlainBrownR2
04-05-2009, 09:53 PM
Since I have a love for the N&W(who in its early days were insane for ALCo, now GE), I'd say my favorite was the T-6. If I remember correctly they were a Transfer switcher, meaning they could make limited runs between yards. They had armies of these little guys around the years. They were 1000 hp yard switchers which like our own cars, literally had two "gears" they could operate in. One gave them a yard speed of 30 mph or so, and another allowed them to operate outside the yard between yards on the main or branch line, which I think was up to about 45 mph or so. The only problem with these was they had to operate in pairs or more than pairs, particularly in trying to leave the hump yards, as they were something of a lightweight as a single unit.
From a railfan, there is humor around an ALCo diesel. ALCo's have a reputation for trying to become a steam engine again, as when they really bear down on a grade or when they start up, they have a tendency to send up a large cloud of black smoke before they really get moving(It's the nature of the beast). It does make for a great photo though... [}:)]

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