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Roscomacaw
03-31-2009, 11:27 PM
Well, I got to see the Clipper just a bit ago. I even set on it's pristine, original upholstery! This car's a survivor - it really is. It was bought new in Burlingame, CA and was never driven by anyone but one gal. She put a total of 51K on the clock before it's last registration sticker of 1988. She musta been a good driver, cause there's not a dent or scratch on it's finish anywhere. Take that back - there's two mouldings missing from the RR door, but it didn't appear any damage was done when and however the mouldings went missing. There was one very minor ding in another moulding, but it didn't cry out to be noticed.
Few chips in the paint around the left HL bezel and a couple of minor scratches on the lower edge of the trunk lid. Filthy with dust - as you can see, but there's no doubt in my mind that it would crank up and run with a little tinkering.
She'd had the good sense to put plastic covers on the front seat, so it's really pretty nice. Looked a bit dingy, but I'd fbet it's just dust!
The ol' feller than owns it now, just keeps it in the late aunts garage as a memorial to her. He's not trying to sell it BUT would. Has he got a price in mind? Yes. Did he tell me? Yes. It wouldn't be outta line if you really wanted a '56 Clipper Custom sedan. Especially one this clean and rust free. I looked under the rear bumper and there was an oil trail leading the rear axle, but the exterior of the gas tank was still silvery gray!
Self-levelling, torshion bar suspension, the old guy kept saying over and over. Power steering - I don't know about power brakes.

Sorry about the one interior photo - I blurred it, but you can still see how nice the seats are!

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Mark57
04-01-2009, 01:01 AM
Quick! Go buy a lottery ticket. ;):D

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rusty nut garage
04-01-2009, 09:12 AM
Thats sounds good. Storage all these years and free wow. I can't wait to see what you got there


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Wife came home tonight after a day of union business. She asked if I thought I might be interested in a '55 Packard Clipper - for free!

Guy she was working with today - overheard her say something to someone else about my Studes. At lunch he asked if she thought I might have any interest in a Packard Clipper that he'd inherited from a deceased aunt. Been garaged all along, but hasn't been driven in 7 or 8 years now.:) I'll know more in a few weeks.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door




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Swifster
04-01-2009, 10:05 AM
Lucky dog! I wish something like that would happen to me. I love the '55 and '56 Packards. I hope it's a nice one Bob.

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Roscomacaw
04-01-2009, 10:07 AM
It might prove to be very interesting indeed. Supposedly, the late aunt owned it since new.[:p] She left it to this guy that wants to give it to me and he's had it stored in his dad's garage since sometime in the 80s or 90s. I just hope the engine isn't siezed.[:I]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Dick Steinkamp
04-01-2009, 10:24 AM
Pretty neat! [8D]

Pictures ASAP please.



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Bellingham, WA

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BobPalma
04-01-2009, 10:25 AM
:) Cool beans, Bob.

If it is a 1955 Clipper DeLuxe or Clipper Super with a seized engine, I have a spare 1955 320 Packard V-8 here in the garage for it...of course, the freight to California from Indiana might be a little steep!

(Find me a nice, dry Astra White 1964 Daytona Wagonaire [:p] out there and we might work something out, though.;)[8D]) :DBP

tutone63
04-01-2009, 10:48 AM
some guys get all the luck! GRRR....envy is a sin, envy is a sin, envy is a sin. (I hafta remind myself sometimes!;))

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1963 Lark, 259 V8, two-tone paint, Twin Traction. I can't wait till the salt is off the roads!!

JBOYLE
04-01-2009, 11:05 AM
Great!
Good to see it get a good home...

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1914 Stutz Bearcat
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studegary
04-01-2009, 01:58 PM
Reminds me of the 1955-1956 Clipper that I advertised as being available for free and no interest was shown in it. That was about 20 years ago. I guess the value hasn't gone up much since &lt;G&gt;.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Roscomacaw
04-01-2009, 02:28 PM
Well, for FREE, I'm not gonna turn it down unless it's a ragged ball of rust. But going on what little the guy told my wife about it, it might well crank and drive.
I could WISH it were a hardtop, but any number of doors will be OK. I could WISH for a standard shift, but likely it'll be an auto, given a woman owned it.[:X]

It's gonna be at least Thursday before I know any more about this deal.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Roscomacaw
04-01-2009, 04:32 PM
Bob P., is the 320 a good engine? I've never had one or read much about what they're like. Is it the same basic block as the 352?

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

BobPalma
04-01-2009, 04:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Bob P., is the 320 a good engine? I've never had one or read much about what they're like. Is it the same basic block as the 352?



:) Sure, Bob; the 320 engine is a good engine...and is essentially the same as a 352 or 374. In fact, all versions of the Packard V-8 had the same stroke: 3 1/2". Only the bore differed:

320: 3 13/16" bore (1955 Clipper Super & Clipper DeLuxe)
352: 4" bore (1955 Clipper Custom, all Senior 1955 Packards, all 1956 Clippers, and 1956 Executive.)
374: 4 1/8" bore (all 1956 Senior Packards)

Now, as for the specific 320 I have in my garage: I have no idea if it is any good. It came with my 1956 Clipper Super hardtop as a "spare part" when I bought the car in September 1992. I've never tried to turn it; it's just a blob of dirty grease right now, sitting on a custom-made wooden dolly so I could roll it around. I just wiped off the stamped engine number and saw that it was a 1955, 320 engine...not a 1956 352, if it was to be a real spare for my '56.

Incidentally, Bob, the stamped engine number is in exactly the same place as on a Studebaker V-8, when you go to look at your "freebie" Clipper. The engine number and the car's serial number will match if it has the original engine in it, unlike Studebakers. (It can be a little hard to read if the car has an oil filter, but not impossible.)

Keep us posted; anything free in this hobby is exciting!;) :DBP

showbizkid
04-01-2009, 09:08 PM
Biggs, I'm thinking good (hopeful) thoughts for you. A nice, two-tone Constellation hardtop with factory A/C would be just the ticket for you to be tooling around the Valley in summer! With a big stogie and straw boater, of course :)


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Roscomacaw
04-02-2009, 11:05 AM
Late development......... I'll know more about the car later today. But I had an offer to haul it here for free (it's sitting several hundred miles south of me) if it comes to be.

Yeah Clark - I'd take a Constellation with or without AC! Got a straw hat[^], but I'd pass on the throat cancer dispenser![xx(]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

silverhawk
04-02-2009, 11:23 AM
Sounds like fun! Can't wait to see it.

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

DEEPNHOCK
04-02-2009, 11:40 AM
Get it home first...
Bad ju-ju to speak of a deal before it's an [u]'all done' </u> deal...
BTDT
Jeff[8D]

Warren Webb
04-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Biggs, if your not sure on it, have it towed down here to my place. I'll always have room for a 55 or 56 Packard anytime, regardless if the engine is frozen or not! [:-)

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61 Champ
62 Daytona convertible
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Roscomacaw
04-02-2009, 12:56 PM
I tend to agree with you, Jeff. But I'm not gonna be pumped until it's sitting in my driveway. AND...... if it doesn't - no biggie.

The free haul is a result of my helping out a fella trying to restore a Stude truck. Not that I was looking for any reward, but I mentioned the Clipper in passing and the offer was made.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

showbizkid
04-02-2009, 04:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Got a straw hat[^], but I'd pass on the throat cancer dispenser![xx(]

I didn't say you had to smoke it, Bob! [:o)]


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Roscomacaw
04-02-2009, 04:51 PM
How about a nice fat Chocolate one???[:p]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

studeclunker
04-02-2009, 11:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

How about a nice fat Chocolate one???[:p]

Just like the new sleigh in the Santa Clause. It was equipped with a CD. Cookie/Cocoa Dispenser.;)

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raprice
04-03-2009, 10:59 PM
Bob,
You've got all the luck. Why don't these things happen to me?
Actually, it sounds like a terrific find for you. Hope it works out.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY

Roscomacaw
04-05-2009, 12:09 PM
The most recent news on the Clipper is that there isn't any news. The guy wasn't at Thursday's meeting that the wife attended. She's going to call him in his office sometime this week. Hopefully, I'll be able to go at least look at the car.

Yesterday I DID go over and get the freebie 170 disconnected from it's 2R5 host. It's ready to lift out and that'll happen Monday morning.
The guy's giving me just about EVERYthing from the truck 'cept it's sheet metal. I may even end up with the rolling frame after he decides whether or not it's going on some other sorta frame.
For now, I'll be taking the engine, trans, driveshaft, steering sector, instruments, etc., etc., etc..[^]

Gonna bring that motor home - sling it into the truck frame/engine dolly I have and see if it'll run. The guy says it hasn't run since the late 60s, so we'll see. Someone definitely had the engine out of the truck at one time. And, it's really very clean to be as old as it is.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

studeclunker
04-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Bob, is that 2R engine a flathead?

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Roscomacaw
04-05-2009, 10:46 PM
Yes it is. All 2R5s would be 170 flatties.[^]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

BobPalma
04-10-2009, 08:09 AM
:) Anything further on the Clipper, Bob? :DBP

Roscomacaw
04-10-2009, 10:46 AM
Bob, I'm going to look at it tomrrow. I talked with the fella who alerted the wife ..... it's not a "freebie", but it may be pretty cheap. We'll see. Neither he nor his dad have any interest in getting it going again.
The guy couldn't even tell me how many doors it has - it's stored in his dad's garage. He was certain that it's a Clipper Custom and a '56. He said that's what his dad told him.

Also, while I got the notion it was some distance away - it's really only about 10 miles from me.:)

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

BobPalma
04-10-2009, 12:21 PM
:) Well, Bob, if it really is a 1956 Clipper Custom, regardless of body style, it's the rarest of all V-8 Clippers. The Clipper Custom series was discontinued mid-year 1956, replaced with the Packard Executive series.

Here are the numbers:

1955 Clipper DeLuxes: 8,309
1955 Clipper Supers: 14,995
1955 Clipper Customs: 15,380

1956 Clipper DeLuxes: 5,715
1956 Clipper Supers: 9,172
1956 Clipper Customs: 3,595

Those figures are hardtops and sedans combined, although DeLuxes were available only as 4-door sedans.

If they are confused as to model year, look at the Serial Number on the Driver Door hinge post (same place as a Studebaker). The first two digits (55 or 56) denote the model year.

'Waiting with baited breath. :DBP

studeclunker
04-11-2009, 08:56 PM
Okay... so how much did he want? Not that I can afford it even if it was free... but still, what did he ask for it?

I still like the '57 Packard-Baker better though,[^] even if this one is a sweetheart![:X]

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K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
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Roscomacaw
04-12-2009, 10:15 AM
Clunk, the price (which the guy said emphatically "is NOT negotiable!") was twice the BIN of the one that's currently on ebay.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

studebaker-R2-4-me
04-12-2009, 10:35 AM
Sorry Biggs I was really pulling for you on this one. He wants $15,000?

Is that stuff he's smoking in California really that good? LOL


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studeclunker
04-12-2009, 10:39 AM
Sometimes I wish people would just say, "sorry, the old girl's just not for sale." Instead of putting an insane price tag on things. All it does is display thier greed. Frankly, the BIN on that e-bay seems to me to be a good price for a beautiful car. Fourteen thousand for that 'barn find' is just plain silly.

The old fellow was probably just piqued that his nephew had suggested such a thing as getting rid of his precious sister's car. Hopefully, when the old fellow passes, the nephew doesn't junk the car.

How much better of a memorial to the original owner would be a plaque on the dash in memory of her whilst the car was driven and shown.

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K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

studegary
04-12-2009, 01:43 PM
It appears to me that the parking brake is fully engaged. I wonder why people do that on a level garage floor when they are storing a car. I will guess that the cable is seized in that position with the brakes seized to the rear drums. That will add to the "fun" of getting it out of the garage and transporting it to somewhere else. I guess that a flatbed backed up to the garage door and just drag the Packard out of the garage and up onto the truck would be the easiest (assuming that the brakes can not be easily freed up).

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Roscomacaw
04-12-2009, 02:07 PM
Gary,

The owner did tell me that sometime in the 90s, they had their trusted mechanic do just that. Not that the brakes were locked - just to get it running. Said they changed all the fluids, got it running and drove it around a few miles before going back into the garage.:(
It sports what were obviously brand new radials at one point - all flat and cracked now, of course.
The ONLY things I could see missing on the car are those two door mouldings (and they might well be IN the garage someplace) and the piece of flexible duct that goes between the fresh air intake and the heater box.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

BobPalma
04-12-2009, 02:41 PM
:) 'Certainly appreciate the follow-up, Bob. We can only hope it stays in the garage out of the weather, and the nephew remembers you or another responsible collector when the current "caretaker," such as he is, passes away. That would appear to be the trajectory for the car at this time. You were certainly correct to not discuss price with him![xx(][}:)];)

At least its fender skirts are present and accounted for. The one on e-bay has no 'skirts, yet they were standard equipment on that model. When one of those cars is missing its skirts, it usually means the car has been so rusty it was not repaired properly to accommodate the skirts. :DBP

PackardV8
04-12-2009, 03:40 PM
The thrill of victory; the agony of defeat.


quote: Well, for FREE


quote:Get it home first...
Bad ju-ju to speak of a deal before it's an 'all done' deal...
BTDT


quote:Clunk, the price (which the guy said emphatically "is NOT negotiable!") was twice the BIN of the one that's currently on ebay.

thnx, jack vines


PackardV8

raprice
04-12-2009, 04:24 PM
I'm over 3,000 miles from you and I'm excited about the Clipper. It would look terrific in any of our driveways.
Wishing you good luck if they decide to sell.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY