View Full Version : 48(ish) Stude Wagon Creation on Ebay

03-31-2009, 03:29 PM
Resale Red;)


03-31-2009, 03:43 PM
One vote in the "I like it" column.

03-31-2009, 04:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by bob40

One vote in the "I like it" column.

Make it 2!

Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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03-31-2009, 04:28 PM
I also think it looks fantastic! I just can't imagine buying something like this without touching, feeling, and most of all...DRIVING it first. I would want to know how it handles on a curvy road, how well it stops, and last but not least, how well does the engine maintain normal temperature on a 90+ degree day? I have seen lots of good looking customs end up trailer queens because they were just not road worthy. That said ... It still looks great!

John Clary
Greer, SC
I have only two limitations ...BRAINS & ENERGY
SDC member since 1975

03-31-2009, 04:35 PM
Not bad, the roof reminds you of a Dodge Magnum.

03-31-2009, 04:38 PM
This looks like a keeper. I didn't see any pix of the back with the door closed. If that looks as good as the rest, I say it's a winner.

JohnP, driving & reviving
an early Lark

03-31-2009, 04:55 PM
Don't ya'll think it needs fender skirts? Really!

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

03-31-2009, 05:06 PM
That sucker is almost quite ugleeeeeeeeeeee! I'm sorry but I ain't lion. Seems like a lot of effort and nice work but still near uglyness although quite different. Definetly not Lowey, Bourke, or Exner. Sure is a keeper though.. Like in the garage. I don't think I or South Bend would have done it that way. Maybe some 24 inch wheels or spinning plastic hubcaps would apply. If you are the owner please do not be offended by my comments. Some like it and I don't. Then again. I like 4 dr. Larks jimmijim

03-31-2009, 05:42 PM
An A for execution. A D for concept.[B)]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

03-31-2009, 05:57 PM
jimmijim, I'm with you on this one, buddy. And Mr Biggs. Ditto on that count as well. Sorry, ya'll, its just not my cup 'o tea. Perhaps the rear section of 54 Conestoga would have looked more natural.


03-31-2009, 06:16 PM
Like it or not, it's a nice piece of workmanship. 350 and A/C, it might be a nice ride. And you'll never see another.

03-31-2009, 06:20 PM
It looks like the Studebaker prototype.


Leonard Shepherd


03-31-2009, 07:19 PM
After you look at the profile for a while, you realize it would make a great looking Ute.



Dick Steinkamp
03-31-2009, 07:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by sweetolbob

After you look at the profile for a while, you realize it would make a great looking Ute.


Actually, it DOES look like a Ute...with a camper shell. [^]

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA


03-31-2009, 07:53 PM
Here's a case where someone has gone to a great deal of effort to do real quality work but has fallen short of the design and artistry to make me go gaga. Had the rear hatch a slightly greater angle, to match or excentuate the rake of the side glass, and the roofline a taper to complement the rear fenders, it could be too sweet.
This one is not at all bad but, I'm sure Bob Bourke used a lot of pencil and paper before he cut sheetmetal.
That said...I doubt anyone wouldn't want to add this to the stable.

03-31-2009, 08:08 PM
I am enjoying and amused at some of the comments here. Calls to mind the old cliche "different strokes for different folks." Reminds me of a comment by a young guy about how ugly he thought an Avanti was. So I asked what his dream car was .... "A Mini Cooper" was his response! Somewhere there is always some animal that will run past the fruit to eat the pits!

John Clary
Greer, SC
I have only two limitations ...BRAINS & ENERGY
SDC member since 1975

03-31-2009, 08:20 PM
Nice workmanship. Too much billet for me. Looks like it is legitimately a '48 with a '50 front clip. Whenever I see that done, I say to myself, "Well, yet another wise guy trying to bend the NSRA rules."

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

03-31-2009, 08:37 PM
This is why it's scary to do a custom... spend that kind of money and effort to build what you want, which is great; but when you go that radical it's a crapshoot how much resale value it has

I wouldn't kick it outta my garage for drippin' oil;)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

[b]"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

03-31-2009, 08:59 PM
I believe the car is quite ugly in comparison to what it was upon manufacture. Definitely not an improvement from original. It is as one might say, butt-ugly. Butmobile. I wouldn't park that Frankenbomb in my worst friends driveway. Did someone actually destroy a starlight to make this. If so it has to be illegal. Had Studebaker manufactured the like, would have definetly caused the company to cease production much earlier than the 66 model year. Your'e right. Different strokes. If my dream car is as ugly as this one, at least when I awake it would have been but a figment of imagination. Someone made a 50-51 Stude woody wagon. It was pictured within a website dedicated to 50-51 Studes. The car is tastefully done. I'm sure some here have seen it. Anybody? jimmijim

03-31-2009, 09:02 PM
I don't think the builder is satisfied with the corners of the sideglass. The top edge of the glass is fine and so is the bottom edge, but the front and rears edges don't match anything. The worst part is that the four corners of the glass are all different and don't coincide with any other angles on the car.(Not even each other) The builder underestimated the accuracy needed with the fit of the opening within the confines of the side of the greenhouse. He had a good idea but didn't draw any pictures first or do any sort of mockup. Overconfident? Cool concept; sloppy design; excellent execution.

Pat Dilling
03-31-2009, 09:27 PM
I agree with you Buddy. Looks like he tried to mold on a fiberglass camper shell. With better side window treatment it would be much better.


Pat Dilling
Olivehurst, CA
Custom '53 Starlight aka Stu Cool
LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/journal.php?action=view&journalid=33611

03-31-2009, 10:21 PM
I still don't think its as nice as the Stude prototype. The rear section on the custom appears too long. I do like how the prototype has a shorter rear and the fact that the rear door falls to the bumper before the rear lights. Sometimes the factory guys do it right the first time.


03-31-2009, 10:54 PM
In the late 50s - early 60s, Rambler's full size wagons had a roofline that might look better here. This thing looks like a humpback whale as it is. Here's an example of Rammer's treatment. This and a steeper tailgate might be easier on the eyes.


1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Mike Van Veghten
04-01-2009, 08:41 AM
From what I can see...not too badly done.

But the rear section just somehow doesn't fit. The back quarter window lines, too small a window, somethings wrong with it.

Otherwise...not bad.


04-01-2009, 08:48 AM
I agree with an earlier comment, the windows look like cheap aftermarket items, hence the camper shell look.

I think it wouyld have been neat without any windows, a neat sedan delivery.

But overall, not too bad....and better than I could have done.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

04-01-2009, 08:50 AM
This car was built by a Detroit area builder named Ted Zgremski. Commonly known as Teddy Z. He is the nephew of Bill Hines. The workmanship on this car is beautiful. The car is also a very good driver as are all of Ted's cars.

Own '53 Commander Starliner. Red w/beige top. 350 Chev/700R4. Tilt,cruise,A/C.http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j30/Bobphyl/StudeontheBeach.jpg

04-01-2009, 10:02 AM
I can understand why this beastmobile is so controversial. Love it or leave it. Let's turn the page on this finely made uglier than all hell {you got to be chittin me} custom and I use that term very broadly. Ford usta make a Custom. Do a yahoo, google or whatever search for BULLET NOSE PARADISE and check out some other ideas. This particular hybrid has already garnered it's fair share of comments. Lets put it in the garage. Maybe it will self morph into a pickup. jimmijim

04-01-2009, 10:12 AM
The ketchup is spelled different. I like the basic concept, but I'm not that crazy about the overall look. As someone else said, its better than I could do. Teddy Zs cars are all nice and I wonder if I would be as critical if he had built this type of car using another make.

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

04-01-2009, 10:27 AM
Other makes can be turned into sheer uglyness also. Sadly,the owner started with a good looking design. Car has been quarantined. Amen jimmijim

04-01-2009, 10:46 AM
When I first saw it, the cliche'd druggie sounding "WHHOAA!" escaped my lips. I love the look of it! (I would prefer a Starlight coupe, however, this wouldn't bug me being in my garage at all!)

1963 Lark, 259 V8, two-tone paint, Twin Traction. I can't wait till the salt is off the roads!!

rusty nut garage
04-01-2009, 11:03 AM
YUCK [:0]
But I wish I had the talent to build like that.

Russ Shop Foreman "Rusty Nut Garage"
53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
57 SH (project)
60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

04-01-2009, 11:41 AM
Talent and taste don't always coexist within one individual. I wish you had the talent also. I also wish you had both talent and good taste. no offense. you probably do. jimmijim

04-03-2009, 12:27 AM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

That said...I doubt anyone wouldn't want to add this to the stable.
Ya can buy it for me i'd put in my stable anytime, and would drive it in the daylight. Awesome job.