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mbstude
03-29-2009, 07:43 AM
Without trying it for myself yet...

Does anyone know if the rear seat cushions from a '63 Daytona Hardtop will fit in a '58 Commander 4 door?

Thanks in advance.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/car003.jpg

jimmijim8
03-29-2009, 07:56 AM
I don't know how well a fit you need but I think you would be better with a 4 dr. Stude donor. 53-61. Go to a bone yard and get some seats out of a luxury mobile for cheap.

54-61-62
03-29-2009, 09:41 AM
I have a pretty decent 56 sedan rear seat you could have for free. Do you know anybody coming up to the SB meet from down there?

mbstude
03-29-2009, 02:51 PM
Well I have a new bucket-seat interior for my Daytona that I wont get around to using for quite some time. If the rear seat cushions from that car would work in the 58, then Id put that interior in. I know the front buckets will fit without any problem. Im reluctant to buy another interior kit when I have one that isnt currently being used. Guess Ill just have to try it for myself and see. :-)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/car003.jpg

studeclunker
03-29-2009, 06:49 PM
Matt, the seat bottom will likely work. The seat back probably won't. The ocmpany lowerec the beltline on the Lark and dropped the tops of the seats to make the car look larger (I read this in TW a few years ago). It might fit, but I seriously doubt it.

When I got Bess a few years ago, I tried out the seats from one of my Daytonas. They were much smaller. The front bolted in, but is noticably smaller than the original seat. The rears were an inch or so narrower. I thought sure the rear would work, as they're very much the same seat. But, no, it didn't work.

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mbstude
03-29-2009, 08:01 PM
UPDATE:

The rear backrest from a '63 Lark will not work in a '58 4 door. Length wise it is perfect; but height is a different story. (Lark seat is too short).

I got seat covers from JDP a few years back for my Daytona. The backrest cover for the Lark fits the '58's backrest perfectly, but it won't stretch enough to cover the bottom cushion. So, I used the '63 Lark bottom cushion. It with the '58 backrest works Okay.

So in the rear, I'll have the stock '58 backrest, and a '63 Daytona bottom cushion. In the front, there'll be GT Hawk bucket seats and console. I'll post pics in a few days when I have the covers on and everything dyed the right color. (Red with white inserts is being recolored to beige/tan with white inserts.) :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/car003.jpg

Allan Songer
03-29-2009, 08:23 PM
Bucket seats and a console in a '58 4 door sedan? Red and white 2-tone in a copper colored sedan? Am I reading you correctly?

Dare to be different INDEED!

mbstude
03-29-2009, 08:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Allan Songer

Bucket seats and a console in a '58 4 door sedan? Red and white 2-tone in a copper colored sedan? Am I reading you correctly?

Dare to be different INDEED!




Close...

Yes, bucket seats and console.

The covers I have are red with white inserts. As soon as I have all the covers installed, I'll be dying over the red with beige, and leaving the white inserts. I may be half color blind, but I'm not bad enough to think that red/white will look good in a copper/beige car. [xx(] Beige and white in a copper/beige car will look alright though. ;)

I'll post pictures in a few days when I have it all done. It'll be easier to explain that way. :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

silverhawk
03-29-2009, 08:32 PM
The buckets in that car sounds neat to me, the colors even better!

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

mbstude
03-30-2009, 11:51 AM
The back seat is done. Still working on the front buckets.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/seat.jpg

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

Allan Songer
03-30-2009, 11:55 AM
Looks good! I've been dying (actually spray painting is a better term) vinyl and leather for years and years here in the movie prop business. It's so easy and the results are uniformly excellent if you take the time to prep the material first.

For the past few years I've used these guys with really excellent results:

http://www.leatherworldtech.com/

mbstude
03-30-2009, 12:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by Allan Songer

Looks good! I've been dying (actually spray painting is a better term) vinyl and leather for years and years here in the movie prop business. It's so easy and the results are uniformly excellent if you take the time to prep the material first.

For the past few years I've used these guys with really excellent results:

http://www.leatherworldtech.com/




Thanks Allan.

Now that I'm redoing the seats, I'll spray the door panels as well, to make them look a little better. I have all new door rubber on the way, and I've found a set of NOS floor mats as well. Soon enough it'll be a $1500 car. [:o)]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

Nitram
03-30-2009, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by mbstude

The back seat is done. Still working on the front buckets.

I'll bet that orange truck is getting reeeeeal lonely right about now. :D


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[i]~Nitram~
57 Transtar

mbstude
03-30-2009, 12:13 PM
The truck isn't too lonely. It's hanging out with a few other derelict Studes. [:o)]


Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

r1lark
03-30-2009, 02:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

The back seat is done. Still working on the front buckets.
Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

OK, I guess I'm just old, because I remember when MOST cars had bench front seats. But when I was Matthew's age, there were definite advantages to a bench front seat.

(Hint for you young whippersnappers: a lot more difficult for female types to snuggle up to you when you have bucket seats<G>)

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
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N8N
03-30-2009, 03:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by r1lark


quote:Originally posted by mbstude

The back seat is done. Still working on the front buckets.
Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

OK, I guess I'm just old, because I remember when MOST cars had bench front seats. But when I was Matthew's age, there were definite advantages to a bench front seat.

(Hint for you young whippersnappers: a lot more difficult for female types to snuggle up to you when you have bucket seats<G>)



Sadly, in an age of mandatory safety belt usage, a high-G right hand turn no longer yields the same results :(

nate

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barnlark
03-30-2009, 06:45 PM
Looks great MB! Nice job. Can't wait to see the rest done.

Allan Songer, thanks for the link. I haven't used those products, but have had pretty good luck with the right preparation thus far. Prop and set guys know all the tricks. [^]

mbstude
03-30-2009, 07:31 PM
I can understand the advantage of having a bench seat... But what about buckets seats that recline?


[:o)][:o)][:o)]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

62SY4
03-30-2009, 07:39 PM
Nope one better, reclining split bench!

Jon Krimm
1962 Lark Sedan
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg440/62SY4/carstude.jpg
1961 Champ

StudeRich
03-30-2009, 07:47 PM
That looks GREAT Matt! [:p] That seat back cover sure does not seem to fit bad at all, considering it is for a '63 Lark! And the '63 bottom fits the '58 car just fine. The color looks good too, similar to the '63 Tan. :)
You should have your Rubber Seal Kit any day now.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/studerich/My64Daytona.jpg
StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA

mbstude
03-30-2009, 07:59 PM
Got the rubber stuff today, Rich. Thanks! :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

silverhawk
03-30-2009, 08:16 PM
I think the '63 upholstery looks better than the original, the original I thought had room for improvement style wise. Keep up the good work!

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

mbstude
03-31-2009, 03:58 PM
Got the buckets installed today.

The fit of the covers is nowhere near perfect, but I'll live with it.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/seat2002.jpg

I had to modify the bracket a bit to clear the heater core. Also put 1/2 inch wooden blocks under the back to raise up the seats up a bit. Other than that, GT Hawk seats are a bolt in.



Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

StudeRich
03-31-2009, 04:28 PM
That looks good Matt. Do you lose the map pocket, stainless strips and ash tray standard on the back of all GT seats, when you use JDP's low level covers?

I guess if you wanted the seats to "fill out" the covers for show, you would have to have the seats professionally re-padded and shaped by a pro.:(

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/studerich/My64Daytona.jpg
StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA

mbstude
03-31-2009, 04:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

That looks good Matt. Do you lose the map pocket, stainless strips and ash tray standard on the back of all GT seats, when you use JDP's low level covers?

I guess if you wanted the seats to "fill out" the covers for show, you would have to have the seats professionally re-padded and shaped by a pro.:(



I did away with the map pockets, but kept the stainless strips and ash trays.

I'm not that concerned with the covers looking 'loose'. It'll be hard to see when driving down the road. ;)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

BobGlasscock
03-31-2009, 05:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by N8N


quote:Originally posted by r1lark


quote:Originally posted by mbstude

The back seat is done. Still working on the front buckets.
Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

OK, I guess I'm just old, because I remember when MOST cars had bench front seats. But when I was Matthew's age, there were definite advantages to a bench front seat.

(Hint for you young whippersnappers: a lot more difficult for female types to snuggle up to you when you have bucket seats<G>)



Sadly, in an age of mandatory safety belt usage, a high-G right hand turn no longer yields the same results :(

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel


There were also advantages to having a floor shift......

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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62SY4
03-31-2009, 09:11 PM
The buckets look great Matthew! Better than my temporary Pedro's special mexican blanket
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg440/62SY4/DSC00471.jpg
Bob, what about floping your column?;)

Jon Krimm
1962 Lark Sedan
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg440/62SY4/carstude.jpg
1961 Champ

avantilover
03-31-2009, 09:20 PM
Looks nice Matthew, but redo the front seats, - may as well do a 100% job as Grandpa would say.

Good luck with it, won't be long before the future Mrs M Burnette appears with such a spunky car!!!!

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia
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N8N
03-31-2009, 09:33 PM
Matthew - I think those front seat covers would fit a lot better with some more foam under there, might want to bulk up the side bolsters a little to give them a little more "bucket." Go down to the Salvation Army and pick up an old electric carving knife to shape the foam - seriously.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
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mbstude
03-31-2009, 09:52 PM
I may get ambitious again and redo the fronts, but for now I'm not worried with it. I was just getting sick of the saddle blanket cover I had on there.

It's weird. I had to remove padding to make the covers slide down all the way, and then they were loose at the top.

Go figure.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

jimmijim8
03-31-2009, 10:09 PM
Who made the covers? JC Whitney? Return for proper fitting ones. Back looks good. jimmijim

mbstude
03-31-2009, 10:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by jimmijim8

Who made the covers? JC Whitney? Return for proper fitting ones. Back looks good. jimmijim


Got 'em from John Poulas. 3 years ago. Just took them out of the box a couple days ago.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg

Allan Songer
03-31-2009, 11:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

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It's weird. I had to remove padding to make the covers slide down all the way, and then they were loose at the top.


[b]Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA


Well, there you go. Did you use silicone spray when you installed the seatcovers?

jimmijim8
04-01-2009, 07:15 AM
Like he said Matt. You need to re-pad a bit. jimmijim

silverhawk
04-01-2009, 10:26 AM
Looks pretty good Matthew, I still think that those patterns look better than the originals.

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

Roscomacaw
04-01-2009, 11:29 AM
Looks good Matthew! Like others have said, the patterns are nicer than the true 58 stuff. Geez, the door panels for most 58 Studes were truly lackluster even when new! But now that you have cool seats and panels to match, they're lookin' pretty good![:p]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

mbstude
04-01-2009, 12:38 PM
I had to remove padding from the sides of the backrests, I didn't mess with the tops.

Thanks for the positive comments, guys. I don't want a show car, and for a daily beater, the seats serve the purpose. ;)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/tiny.jpg