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viperron
03-28-2009, 11:23 AM
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Ron Langley

52-fan
03-28-2009, 11:25 AM
Is this in the 40 Commander?

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1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

Alan
03-28-2009, 11:35 AM
Vintage 60's MOPAR Parts.

viperron
03-28-2009, 11:35 AM
Yes it is, it has a chevy front end, ford rear end, toyota steering box, cadillac interior, and a mopar drive train . The engine is a 413 with a 850 demon carb. You've got to love Studebakers.

Ron Langley

StudeRich
03-28-2009, 11:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by viperron

You've got to love Studebakers.Ron Langley

That maybe so Ron, but I have to say: you definitely LOVE THEM MORE, if they are real Studebakers! [B)]

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StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA

sals54
03-28-2009, 11:55 AM
How on earth did you get that little Studie V8 bored out to 413 cubic inches???? JK

sals54
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Roscomacaw
03-28-2009, 01:02 PM
Ron,

Is this a daily driver?

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

bams50
03-28-2009, 01:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich


quote:Originally posted by viperron

You've got to love Studebakers.Ron Langley

That maybe so Ron, but I have to say: you definitely LOVE THEM MORE, if they are real Studebakers!



I can't claim to be an expert, but that car look pretty real to me! I bet when it starts up it [b]sounds pretty real too[8D]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

ST2DE5
03-28-2009, 01:49 PM
Glad to see another MOPAR in a Studebaker. I thought I was the only one.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/51stude/MoparStudebaker1.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/51stude/004_4-1.jpg
7G-Q1 49 2R12 10G-F5 56B-D4 56B-F2
Middle Tennessee 37th Annual Car Show April 4 2009

Alan
03-28-2009, 02:14 PM
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bams50
03-28-2009, 02:40 PM
OH NO! More fakes!;):D

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

Dick Steinkamp
03-28-2009, 02:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich


That maybe so Ron, but I have to say: you definitely LOVE THEM MORE, if they are real Studebakers! [B)]



I'm sure that applies to you, Rich, but I doubt if it is a universal truth :D.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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ST2DE5
03-28-2009, 02:52 PM
IF YOUR STUDEBAKER IS GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY WHO KNOWS WHAT'S UNDER THE HOOD. OR WHO CARES. ALL THEY SEE IS A STUDEBAKER.

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StudeMichael
03-28-2009, 04:36 PM
I am also curious. Please answer the question and explain how you bored a Studebaker V8 to 413 cubic inches? Did you have the block checked to make sure there was no core shift first? I had my 289 bored .93 over to 304.5 but 413 is really pushing it!!!

1957 Packard Clipper
1957 President Broadmoor
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

ST2DE5
03-28-2009, 04:40 PM
And moved the distributor up front so it's easy to get to.

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7G-Q1 49 2R12 10G-F5 56B-D4 56B-F2
Middle Tennessee 37th Annual Car Show April 4 2009

Studeman
03-28-2009, 05:29 PM
Another MoparHawk...
I bought this slug for $75 sight-unseen.. and he delivered it!
When I saw him pulling in the driveway... I thought I'd been SCREWED!
Then I opened her up....

Rebuilt- 1969 HP-block 440, 1967 #2708915 casting HP Heads, Purple Cam, complete A-Body front end clip w/torsion bars, PS, PDB, rebuilt 727 Torqueflight, Headers...etc

This motor (and trans) was freshly rebuilt and never run- but, it was very poorly stored. It was locked up solid- because they let water get inside it and it froze one cylinder. We had it cleaned out and sleeved.But it didn't need much more than that. It will be used in a 1968 GTX.

Stude-Stuff... (2)-extra quarters, (4) Bumpers, Dash, Reclining seats,

http://www.raylinrestoration.com/TEMP/SDCForum/MoparHawk-T.jpg

Ray

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Specializing in Studebaker Restoration

bob40
03-28-2009, 08:27 PM
Amen,Dave.

Studeman
03-28-2009, 08:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

Ron-

You .... and everything else Dave wrote between these two words... loss.



PERFECT....

Ray

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Specializing in Studebaker Restoration

ST2DE5
03-28-2009, 08:30 PM
And I will go along with studedude 100 percent. Modified are driven more.

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7G-Q1 49 2R12 10G-F5 56B-D4 56B-F2
Middle Tennessee 37th Annual Car Show April 4 2009

Studedude
03-28-2009, 08:31 PM
Ron-

You have a very nice, well-done, unusual (love the MoPar drive line!), interesting, modified Studebaker. Thanks for sharing pictures of it with us.

I hope you have joined SDC. If you have not, I encourage you to do so. You can join by going here: http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/joinsdc.asp

First year membership is only $19.95, and the Turning Wheels magazine you get each month is worth far more than the membership fee, even if you take advantage of no other membership privileges.

I will warn you, that because your car is modified, you will encounter some rude, really ignorant, uncalled for comments every now and then. But, if you allow them to roll off of your back, you will find yourself making many long lasting friendships in the club... even with some folks that would not have built your car the way it is.

The fellow that owned my car before me put the Chevy engine in it, along with a few other modifications. (I, personally, would have not gone the SBC route, but since the car had turned the corner, I could carry on with a clear consience.)

He (the P.O.) joined SDC, but quit the club and sold the car because of how he was treated by some short sighted SDC members. Unfortunately, he did not hang around long enough to learn that those folks do not represent the club, as a whole.

He warned me, but I bought the car, and joined the club, anyway. I then proceeded to make many more modifications to the car.

In spite of all of this (and the resulting fury,) I'm still a member of the club, and would not trade the friendships I have made here for anything! They have proven to be true, long-lasting, enduring friendships. What is really amazing is that these friendships are equally balanced between "purists," and modifiers/customizers within the club. It took me a while to learn the difference, and I'm sorry to report that I offended many a custom owner by calling them a purist, before I knew the difference. Once we got that issue behind us, life was good...

(I never knew back then that, to a custom owner, being called a purist was as bad as, if not worse than, being called a modifier!)

SDC lost a member when the P.O. of my car quit the club. They gained one back when I joined, so I reckon the P.O. was the "loser" in that deal.

BUT...

SDC vendors need to realize that many of the parts they sell might well be going on modified cars. Cash flow from the idiots (like me) that own "Less than Real Studebakers" help them keep their businesses doors open.

SDC members, even the "purists," must realize that this club will sustain itself longer by accepting modified cars, or at least, the owners of such, rather than running them off by making such stupid, uncalled for, comments.

Judging by what I see at Studebaker meets, no less than 50% of the dues and other monies supporting the club, museum, and vendors are probably coming from folks that have modified (or custom) cars. Take that cash flow away from the club, and I have to wonder how long the club, museum, and vendors will last.

While those of us that own "less than real" Studebakers have been known to send money to the museum for restoration of "real" (original) Studebakers, I have seen no instance where we have asked folks to contribute money towards the modification of one. CASOS, for the most part, are to be found in the "Real" section, while modifiers are likely to spread the wealth.

People like me, who own, "Less than real," Studebakers make donations and contributions to SDC, the museum, and Studebaker vendors. We also get tired of the cheap-shots, snide comments, and holier (Studlier) -than-thou attitudes we encounter.

Some folks might better serve the club (and themselves) by learning to deal with, and appreciate what we, "Less than real," owners bring to the table. Otherwise, the table will become bare much sooner than it really has to.

When the table goes bare, all Studebaker lovers/owners, "Real," or not, will feel the loss.

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jclary
03-28-2009, 08:33 PM
Well said Dave. I have always had original Studebakers. I have 5 now. Although I have kept mine original, I had much rather see one modified than crushed into soup cans. The way I figure it, if it is yours, you can do what ever you want with it.

John Clary
Greer, SC
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I have only two limitations ...BRAINS & ENERGY
SDC member since 1975

StudeDave57
03-28-2009, 08:37 PM
While Dave and I are usually on the same page, I must post one other thing to think about.

Reading between the lines once in awhile is a good thing that doesn't happen often enough here. Jokes (intended or otherwise) don't always seem to be taken as they were intended, and often blow out of proportion quickly.

Trust me on this, and keep it in mind when you re-read my Dad's post above.


All of Dad's Studes are not 'stock', nor are mine, BTW. ;)


StudeDave '57 [8D]
long day here, too- yes

Studedude
03-28-2009, 08:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeDave57[All of Dad's Studes are [i]not 'stock', nor are mine, BTW. ;) [/size=3]
I meant no offense to you, or your family. This is a reoccurring theme, so I addressed it.

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DAVE, THE EVIL TWIN FROM OKLAHOMA

StudeDave57
03-28-2009, 09:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

I meant no offense to you, or your family. This is a reoccurring theme, so I addressed it. DAVE
I'm sure of that. But this time Dad opened the can of worms. [:0] :(
As such the shots in this thread seem to be aimed his way. [B)] [V]
It's NOT what he needs right now~ and he is very sorry for his post.

No worries either way!!! We're over it- now let's get everyone else to follow...


StudeDave '57 [8D]

Studedude
03-28-2009, 09:11 PM
Shot guns are hard to aim... sorry if I hit an unintended target!

NOT AIMED ANYWHERE IN PARTICULAR...

I have seen many a Purist, and even some Custom Owners say... "WHY?"

I have never seen a modifier look at an original restoration and ask, "WHY?"

We understand, and appreciate why.

If you can't, don't ask. <G>



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DAVE, THE EVIL TWIN FROM OKLAHOMA

clonelark
03-28-2009, 09:22 PM
Well said Studedude, were all in the same boat, lets not sink it.
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bams50
03-28-2009, 09:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

I will warn you, that because your car is modified, you will encounter some rude, really ignorant, uncalled for comments every now and then. But, if you allow them to roll off of your back, you will find yourself making many long lasting friendships in the club... even with some folks that would not have built your car the way it is.

The fellow that owned my car before me put the Chevy engine in it, along with a few other modifications. (I, personally, would have not gone the SBC route, but since the car had turned the corner, I could carry on with a clear consience.)

He (the P.O.) joined SDC, but quit the club and sold the car because of how he was treated by some short sighted SDC members. Unfortunately, he did not hang around long enough to learn that those folks do not represent the club, as a whole.

He warned me, but I bought the car, and joined the club, anyway. I then proceeded to make many more modifications to the car.

In spite of all of this (and the resulting fury,) I'm still a member of the club, and would not trade the friendships I have made here for anything! They have proven to be true, long-lasting, enduring friendships. What is really amazing is that these friendships are equally balanced between "purists," and modifiers/customizers within the club. It took me a while to learn the difference, and I'm sorry to report that I offended many a custom owner by calling them a purist, before I knew the difference. Once we got that issue behind us, life was good...

(I never knew back then that, to a custom owner, being called a purist was as bad as, if not worse than, being called a modifier!)

SDC lost a member when the P.O. of my car quit the club. They gained one back when I joined, so I reckon the P.O. was the "loser" in that deal.

BUT...

SDC vendors need to realize that many of the parts they sell might well be going on modified cars. Cash flow from the idiots (like me) that own "Less than Real Studebakers" help them keep their businesses doors open.

SDC members, even the "purists," must realize that this club will sustain itself longer by accepting modified cars, or at least, the owners of such, rather than running them off by making such stupid, uncalled for, comments.

Judging by what I see at Studebaker meets, no less than 50% of the dues and other monies supporting the club, museum, and vendors are probably coming from folks that have modified (or custom) cars. Take that cash flow away from the club, and I have to wonder how long the club, museum, and vendors will last.

While those of us that own "less than real" Studebakers have been known to send money to the museum for restoration of "real" (original) Studebakers, I have seen no instance where we have asked folks to contribute money towards the modification of one. CASOS, for the most part, are to be found in the "Real" section, while modifiers are likely to spread the wealth.

People like me, who own, "Less than real," Studebakers make donations and contributions to SDC, the museum, and Studebaker vendors. We also get tired of the cheap-shots, snide comments, and holier-than-thou attitudes we encounter.

Some folks might better serve the club (and themselves) by learning to deal with, and appreciate what we, "Less than real," owners bring to the table. Otherwise, the table will become bare much sooner than it really has to.

When the table goes bare, all Studebaker lovers/owners, "Real," or not, will feel the loss.



Point taken. But I had no idea it had ever been that contentious![:0][B)]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

[b]<i

StudeDave57
03-29-2009, 12:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

(Other kindness has been displayed, through lack of response, MIke.)
Like you, I use TIC responses. (Not all are appropriate.) DAVE
Uhhhh, what [?] [?] [?]

StudeDave '57 [8D]
just wonderin'... [:o)]

candbstudebakers
03-29-2009, 12:41 AM
To each his or hers own, that is what makes the world go around, I have many Studebakers and most are Studebaker powered but the 3 that are not are still good ones, first I rate my 1967 Avanti every bit a Studebaker the engine was not put in by a Chevy dealer it was put in by a very respected Studebaker co. also the custom 62 GT is all Studebaker except the 327 and 4 speed a pair of the best things Chevy ever did, and the next is a little 53 "C" cab with a 53 Dodge Red Ram Hemi, it sure looks better than a flat head champ 6 engine, not knocking the Studebaker flat head 6 I just said it looks better, remember we all enjoy what ever we have...Bob Peterson

Pinchbolt
03-29-2009, 12:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by ST2DE5

Glad to see another MOPAR in a Studebaker. I thought I was the only one.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/51stude/MoparStudebaker1.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/51stude/004_4-1.jpg
7G-Q1 49 2R12 10G-F5 56B-D4 56B-F2
Middle Tennessee 37th Annual Car Show April 4 2009
Looks like this car is the result of a lot of very hard work, and i don't fault the owner for using a Chrysler engine, because they can definitely scream. But, if you have an engine that requires quite a bit of air intake, why use a filter with such a small surface area? It would create a restriction, that decreases the aiflow, an consequenly, output of the engine. I am no engineer, but I have observed that the stock, high-performance engines of the Muscle car era used LARGE air filter elements, while the low-horsepower engines had much smaller air cleaner elements. But, just maybe you are onto someting everyone else overlooked, and I am clueless. Just trying to help. ;)

StudeDave57
03-29-2009, 12:59 AM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude
What... You thought this was a Stude engine [?] [?] DAVE
That was some other guy, not me... ;)
I quoted what I was asking about.
Wait a minute~ I think I get it now...
[:0] :D
No worries!!!

StudeDave '57 [8D]
not as lost as I look
anymore... [B)]

Mark57
03-29-2009, 01:05 AM
After reading this topic, I can understand why the last word was used in the title... [}:)]:D

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island

The NW Overdrive Tour in Parksville, BC
May 23 & 24, 2009; check it out at -
http://sdcvi.shawwebspace.ca/</h5>
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ST2DE5
03-29-2009, 10:16 AM
Hey pinchbolt That breather is for show only. I have a big one I use but it covers too much of the motor and hard to clean it has louvers all the way around.

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7G-Q1 49 2R12 10G-F5 56B-D4 56B-F2
Middle Tennessee 37th Annual Car Show April 4 2009

viperron
03-29-2009, 10:48 AM
I really appreciate the comments from Studedude, I did feel slighted by a few of the comments however as much as I hate 350 chevies in every street rod in America I can understand how a lot of you feel. Please note that Mopar has been a bastard child up until recently, if you didn't have a chevy or a ford you just didn't count. I've owned over 135 Mopars in my life and have several as of this time, however this stude is my favorite car of all time and that includes my viper and my prowler. I've always loved studes and this one will go a long way in enhancing the stude image, even with a mopar engine. Keep up the good work

Ron Langley

Dick Steinkamp
03-29-2009, 10:55 AM
quote:Originally posted by viperron
... and this one will go a long way in enhancing the stude image, even with a mopar engine.


It certainly will [8D]



Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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mbstude
03-29-2009, 08:19 PM
My uncle had a souped up 440 in a Wagonaire once. He probably would've left it in there if he could've figured out an easy solution for the steering.

Ron, nice car. Welcome aboard. :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

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Allan Songer
03-29-2009, 08:37 PM
I've owned a few MOPARs as well. My daily driver through most of the mid-late 80's was a 1968 Dodge Dart 2 door sedan with the big slant six and a 3-speed. Lost it one night when a 22 year old girl in a brand new Nissan "Z" slammed into me after losing control in the rain. Helluva a nice little car that I put close to 100,000 miles.

I had a '65 Newport 2-door with a 426 wedge (from a cop car) and a factory 3-speed floor shift. Fixed it up a bit and sold it--car was WAY TOO BIG for a daily driver--bought the Dart and used it instead.

And before that I had a '65 Polara 2-door with a 383 and a torqueflight.

And TODAY my daily is a Dodge Magnum wagon with a hemi. I even pull my vintage Airstrem trailer with it.

avantilover
03-29-2009, 11:35 PM
I think we just have to be respectful of the engineering talent displayed over the years from "ALL" Automakers, and what they produce now is just brilliant. Case in point:

I just changed the order for my new car today to a Turbo Diesel Ford Focus 5 door hatch with a 6 speed PowerShift (Studebaker name? Hmm?) Automatic Transmission. Drove a current model and by the Gods they go like anything, absolutely brilliant: Here are the specs (Metric) - 2.0 Litre Duratorq 4cylinder 16V Turbo Diesel
Max Power Output ISO 100KW @ 4000rpm
Max Torque ISO 320Nm @2000 rpm
Valve Gear type DOHC
Fuel System Diesel direct injection
Fuel Consumption (Litres per 100km/62 Mph) 5.9 (900km/tank)

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia
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