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Dick Steinkamp
12-14-2006, 10:03 AM
Since I've been focused on my '60 Lark Wagon these past few weeks, I pulled out my August 1990 TW with a Fred Fox article on '60 Larks.

I was surprised to learn that only 5,711 of my wagon (4 door, Deluxe trim, V8) were produced and that only 18,797 4 door wagons in total were produced (Deluxe and Regal, 6 and V8).

I tend to think of the 1953 Starliner Hardtop as a fairly rare Studebaker, but 32,294 of these were produced...almost double the 1960 4 door Lark Wagons.

Interesting.

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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

65cruiser
12-14-2006, 10:31 AM
Yeah, but you confuse rarity with desirability. My 65 Cruiser is 1 of 791 1965 Cruisers built with the 6 cylinder engine. Only 589 were built with the 6 banger and automatic. Does that make it rare. Yup. Desireable.

No[}:)].

Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[:p]!

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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
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65cruiser
12-14-2006, 10:31 AM
Yeah, but you confuse rarity with desirability. My 65 Cruiser is 1 of 791 1965 Cruisers built with the 6 cylinder engine. Only 589 were built with the 6 banger and automatic. Does that make it rare. Yup. Desireable.

No[}:)].

Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[:p]!

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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

Roscomacaw
12-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Ya know - we had a person here just a week or so ago that had purchased his first Stude and it was a '63 Lark of some sort (maybe 62, I can't recall and I'm too lazy to search it out! [xx(])
Thing is, 63 Larks abound, but when you start dividing them up by engine and trim level, you start to come up with some fairly small numbers. I remember being struck by the production tally of this particular Lark because while I've always thought of my 57 President 2-door as "rare" with 836 units built, this particular Lark, by virtue of engine and trim, saw just over a thousand units built. Really minescule numbers by today's standards!
Of course, to us Stude nuts, it's just a 63 Lark - and collectively, there was a fair number of those made.;)

Consider that GM called their first-year Saturn Sky roadsters, "Limited Edition" at ONLY 12K built![:0][}:)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Ya know - we had a person here just a week or so ago that had purchased his first Stude and it was a '63 Lark of some sort (maybe 62, I can't recall and I'm too lazy to search it out! [xx(])
Thing is, 63 Larks abound, but when you start dividing them up by engine and trim level, you start to come up with some fairly small numbers. I remember being struck by the production tally of this particular Lark because while I've always thought of my 57 President 2-door as "rare" with 836 units built, this particular Lark, by virtue of engine and trim, saw just over a thousand units built. Really minescule numbers by today's standards!
Of course, to us Stude nuts, it's just a 63 Lark - and collectively, there was a fair number of those made.;)

Consider that GM called their first-year Saturn Sky roadsters, "Limited Edition" at ONLY 12K built![:0][}:)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Dick Steinkamp
12-14-2006, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[:p]!


Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0]:D (such a deal!).

Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars [:p]. You'll never find another one like that!

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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-14-2006, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[:p]!


Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0]:D (such a deal!).

Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars [:p]. You'll never find another one like that!

http://static.flickr.com/100/301465853_2dbe07b7c6_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Mike Van Veghten
12-14-2006, 01:37 PM
Even fewer 60 Lark "2dr." wagons.

Mike

Mike Van Veghten
12-14-2006, 01:37 PM
Even fewer 60 Lark "2dr." wagons.

Mike

65cruiser
12-14-2006, 01:43 PM
I appreciate that Dick, and don't get me wrong, I do love my Cruiser. But....4 door sedans just aren't worth much money no matter how rare or documented they are.

Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].


quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[:p]!


Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0]:D (such a deal!).

Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars [:p]. You'll never find another one like that!

http://static.flickr.com/100/301465853_2dbe07b7c6_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA


________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
12-14-2006, 01:43 PM
I appreciate that Dick, and don't get me wrong, I do love my Cruiser. But....4 door sedans just aren't worth much money no matter how rare or documented they are.

Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].


quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[:p]!


Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0]:D (such a deal!).

Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars [:p]. You'll never find another one like that!

http://static.flickr.com/100/301465853_2dbe07b7c6_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA


________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

StudeDave57
12-14-2006, 04:18 PM
I'll take my 'less then desirable' sedans (and wagon) over a C/K or Avanti any day of the week~ and twice on Sundays!!!
Four of my cars' numbers look like this~
'57 Parkview- 738 produced
'57 Commander 'DeLuxe' 2door sedan- 2072 produced
'57 Champion 'Custom' 2door sedan- 1751 produced
'58 Packard sedan- 1200 producedFor me it's not about the value to others, it's about what the car is worth to ME. I grew up in the back of one of them, the other two are her sisters. The Packard is one I've always wanted, and couldn't pass up the irresistable deal I was given.
It's nice having rides that are out of the ordinary...


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
12-14-2006, 04:18 PM
I'll take my 'less then desirable' sedans (and wagon) over a C/K or Avanti any day of the week~ and twice on Sundays!!!
Four of my cars' numbers look like this~
'57 Parkview- 738 produced
'57 Commander 'DeLuxe' 2door sedan- 2072 produced
'57 Champion 'Custom' 2door sedan- 1751 produced
'58 Packard sedan- 1200 producedFor me it's not about the value to others, it's about what the car is worth to ME. I grew up in the back of one of them, the other two are her sisters. The Packard is one I've always wanted, and couldn't pass up the irresistable deal I was given.
It's nice having rides that are out of the ordinary...


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Dick Steinkamp
12-14-2006, 04:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].



Yea it is....for you :)

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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-14-2006, 04:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].



Yea it is....for you :)

http://static.flickr.com/100/301465853_2dbe07b7c6_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA