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jlmccuan
03-27-2009, 12:07 PM
Thought I'd share this with you all. At a recent show, a guy and his son approached my '63 Avanti. As the guy began telling his immense knowledge of all things Stude, he went on to focus on the Avanti's. He then reached out and knocked on my front fender. As I stood in shock that a stranger would beat his knuckles against my car, he proudly proclaimed, "See - all metal. Not one of those fake fiberglass ones they put they Chevy engines in." Fortunately, he left before I recovered.

Jim
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_________1966 Avanti II RQA 0088______________________1963 Avanti R2 63R3152_______________Rabid Snail Racing

JGK 940
03-27-2009, 12:19 PM
They Walk Among Us - and They Breed!

You're a better man than I am, Jim. Good on ya.

I'd have chased him down and called him out. Probably stupid on my part, but blatant stupidity just plain makes me angry.

Grrr...

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

kurtruk
03-27-2009, 12:24 PM
Wow.
Sorry, but couldn't help but think about the scene in the movie Christmas Vacation where cousin Eddie raps on his head with his knuckles and says "see Clark, solid as a rock here--but over here on this side is where they put the steel plate in and I gots to be careful." Maybe someone can help me the exact line.

KURTRUK
(read it backwards)


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StudeDave57
03-27-2009, 01:11 PM
Sorta the same, but a different story. Last month when I took Cleo out for the 'Big 3' Parts Swap I had alot of the same 'smart people' looking (and touching) her. Luckily she needs paint, so I didn't mind too much. The fun part was showing those smart people how they had it backwards~

her fins and headlight pods are steel~ her hood is not...


StudeDave '57 [8D]
San Diego, Ca.
(but not for long...)

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

jlmccuan
03-27-2009, 02:45 PM
As far as chasing him down, as I stood there with my mouth open, I realized my wife had already grabbed my arm in anticipation of the chase. lol She had already pegged the guy as a "toucher" and moved in.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those "nobody touches or stands too close to my baby". In fact, I've personally put little kids behind the steering wheel for pics. I'm happy to give rides and want people to engage the car - on request. There are even "special people" who have advance permission to drive the car when we meet up. Heck, I even let my son's fiance trounce on clueless kids at the drag strip with it, lol.

Jim
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_________1966 Avanti II RQA 0088______________________1963 Avanti R2 63R3152_______________Rabid Snail Racing

52-fan
03-27-2009, 03:02 PM
Reminds me of the time that the Little Rock club was having a meeting and we were parked in a bank parking lot. While I was talking to some new members, a young man drove up in a fairly new Olds Cutlass. While I stood there stunned, he got out, walked over to my 52, opened the door and got behind the wheel! Before I could recover and approach him, he got back in his car and drove off. I wish I had thought to walk over and get in his car while it was sitting there with the door open.

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1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

Gunslinger
03-27-2009, 03:29 PM
He must be mistaking the Studebaker Avanti's with the all-steel Avanti's made in Canada!




Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

buddymander
03-27-2009, 03:51 PM
Doncha wish you could be amazed by intelligence as often as you're amazed by stupidity? Now that would be a great world. There's just no accounting for some people's behavior; that's the amazing part.

Bob Bryant
03-27-2009, 04:06 PM
At an all-brands car club meeting this week, the member seated next to me asked what kind of car I had. I replied, "Studebaker Avanti".

He said, "They are still made in Brazil, aren't they?"

PlainBrownR2
03-27-2009, 04:28 PM
Going back to the very interested man inappropriately rapping his knuckles on your stuff, it is obvious he doesn't have an ear for it. Fiberglass produces a very dull thud while steel will resonate, barring the paint isn't extraordinarily thick. The funny thing is it begs the question, those of us with these fiberglass wonders, are we going to have to tote a small but strong magnet in our stuff? I should also mention that many a Corvette(with a few in the six figures now) were made of that same fake fiberglass stuff.
The funny thing was this lack of "hands to yourself" rule that I presume many of us know about, led our train club to erect some lexan risers and postings. This was because many of the kids who would walk by, who were high enough to reach over the display would reach over and push some of our equipment over just to see the domino effect and the ensuing model train wreck afterwards. As much as we love them, it was becoming something of a bother. For a group that was advertising the club and how well things are run, having a display come to an immediate and grinding halt was not something we wanted to continually have to address during the day.



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tutone63
03-27-2009, 04:55 PM
Cousin eddie said something along these lines " But, ya see Clark, over here I have a steel plate, and if that gets dented, then the part in my hair gets all screwy" That is not the exact line, but it is a bit closer.

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1963 Lark, 259 V8, two-tone paint, Twin Traction. I can't wait till the salt is off the roads!!

Ron Dame
03-27-2009, 06:11 PM
Driving the truck a week ago, I met a man who informed me that a boat builder in Seattle bought the rights to Avanti and started building out of fiberglass. Maybe it's the same guy!



quote:Originally posted by jlmccuan

Thought I'd share this with you all. At a recent show, a guy and his son approached my '63 Avanti. As the guy began telling his immense knowledge of all things Stude, he went on to focus on the Avanti's. He then reached out and knocked on my front fender. As I stood in shock that a stranger would beat his knuckles against my car, he proudly proclaimed, "See - all metal. Not one of those fake fiberglass ones they put they Chevy engines in." Fortunately, he left before I recovered.

Jim
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_________1966 Avanti II RQA 0088______________________1963 Avanti R2 63R3152_______________Rabid Snail Racing



Ron Dame
'63 Champ

Karl
03-27-2009, 06:21 PM
Wait till you come back from a food break or some thing. Find some one behind the wheel looking all comfy.[:0] That will pull your strings.:( Then tell you about your car....[B)]

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55s
03-27-2009, 06:27 PM
I came back to my car once and found that the hood was opened by a stranger who wanted to see the engine.

The mixed show audience also seems to leave lots of fingerprints. I'm glad my cars aren't perfect, and I usually don't spend a lot of time cleaning them up perfectly.

It really takes all kinds.

Paul

Ron Dame
03-27-2009, 07:04 PM
I drive my truck often to work I don't lock it because I leave nothing in it and it's a PIA to replace glass if the dummies don't realize there's a sliding back glass, and the clips on it don't work. I really don't worry about theft around here, but I was really PO'd when I got in one day and the truck reeked of cigarette smoke, and there was a butt in the ashtray. I'd like to find that guy's butt and kick it...






quote:Originally posted by Karl

Wait till you come back from a food break or some thing. Find some one behind the wheel looking all comfy.[:0] That will pull your strings.:( Then tell you about your car....[B)]

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Ron Dame
'63 Champ

candbstudebakers
03-28-2009, 12:06 AM
Never has a non Studebakers show gone by that a least one person comes by talking to some one and telling them all about the Avanti with the Ford 289 engine and they were made in Canada, if he is talking to his son or some one young I step up and fill him in, in a hurry, after that they look a little dumb, and even some times want argue about it, the young person looks and then says cool car as they leave....Bob Peterson

jeryst
03-28-2009, 01:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by tutone63

Cousin eddie said something along these lines " But, ya see Clark, over here I have a steel plate, and if that gets dented, then the part in my hair gets all screwy" That is not the exact line, but it is a bit closer.

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1963 Lark, 259 V8, two-tone paint, Twin Traction. I can't wait till the salt is off the roads!!


Didnt Cousin Eddy say that he had the metal plate replaced with a plastic one because every time his wife turned on the microwave he wet himself and forgot who he was?

Cousin Eddy was my favorite in all of the VACATION movies!

barnlark
03-28-2009, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Bob Bryant

At an all-brands car club meeting this week, the member seated next to me asked what kind of car I had. I replied, "Studebaker Avanti".

He said, "They are still made in Brazil, aren't they?"

That is actually not too far from the truth, even though Cancun isn't in South America. Closer fact than steel to fiberglass, boat builders, or Canada stories. :D

http://www.avantimotors.com/avantinewsandevents.html

Also: From news reports..."October 2005 an internet report was published that "Avanti Motors" had "recently announced a new relationship with Ford Motor Company and was planning "a big comeback". The new Avantis, very similar in appearance to the Firebird-based cars designed by Kellogg, were to be based on the current-generation Ford Mustang and were available as both coupes and convertibles. An October 2006 brief report said the company had established a new factory at Cancun, Mexico and planned to produce 400 vehicles per year. A brief chronology of relevant events from 1961-2005 was published, but all production of new vehicles has apparently ended. As of 2007 they planned to produce 150 cars per year. A website still exists at http://www.avantimotors.com/

Michael Eugene Kelly, owner of Avanti Motors Corporation, was arrested by the FBI on Dec 22, 2006 in Florida. Kelly is suspected of running a $400 million Ponzi scheme from 19922004 and is in jail without bail facing mail fraud charges."

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Gary1953
03-28-2009, 07:38 AM
Steel Avantis? Great now that's one more car to put on my wish list.

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Retired
03-28-2009, 10:09 AM
The Avanti 3-4 door prototypes are made of metal arn't they?

Richard

sbca96
03-28-2009, 11:50 AM
About 20 years ago, we were at a local auto parts store, and some guy
came up to my Dad's Avanti II. He asked if it had the supercharged
Packard engine in it. Then he proceeded to wrap his knuckles on the
drivers front fender and exclaimed, "You got a LOT of bondo here!".:(

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

Bob Bryant
03-28-2009, 11:56 AM
At car shows I have had more people tell me the Avanti was made in Canada then anywhere else other than South Bend.

Thomas63R2
03-28-2009, 12:05 PM
I look forward to the weirdness that comes with having an Avanti at a car show, it can be quite entertaining. I haven't had anyone make a steel body comment - that is a new one.

I have had spectators get visibly upset when I offer the correct facts. One goombah nearly lost it when I shot down his inquiry as the whether Canada still had the patent on the Avanti. He boiled over when I informed him that patents are not issued to countries. He yelled at me a little bit and then sulked off. My car show neighbor asked what in the hell was that all about? - so I told him that there are alternative Avanti histories floating around, and they refuse to die off.

Thomas

Long time hot rodder
Packrat junk collector
'63 Avanti R2 4 speed

Roscomacaw
03-28-2009, 12:07 PM
These steel Avantis - they went with fiberglass hog troughs cause they'd demonstrated a propensity to rust out![:p]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

dong
03-28-2009, 04:10 PM
I went to a local carshow today and a guy went past with his son, saw the Daytona nameplate and told his son it was a Dodge. I almost told him it had a 289 Ford engine but didn't think I could keep a straight face.

Don

Retired
03-28-2009, 04:12 PM
The steel prototypes were built in Italy. Seen them at N&A Avanti factory. Last I heard they were sold at the Youngstown auction. Any one know where they went?

Richard

okc63avanti
03-28-2009, 07:03 PM
Here's the quote from Christmas Vacation as Clark Griswold is about to try a special fricton reducing cooking spray on his snow sled.

Eddie: Don't put none of it on my sled, Clark. You know that metal plate in my head?
Clark: How could I forget it?
Eddie: They had to replace my metal plate with a plastic one. Every time Catherine would rev up the microwave, I'd piss my pants and forget who I was for about half an hour or so. Over at the VA they replaced it with a plastic one and it ain't as strong. I don't think I oughta be sailing down no hill with nothing between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic.
Clark: Do you think it really matters Ed?
Eddie: The plate runs right under my part. If it gets dented, my hair ain't gonna look right.


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Bob Bryant
03-28-2009, 07:27 PM
A friend who owns an Avanti was on vacation in Cancun about eighteen months ago. He said he visited the factory and it was secured with armed guards on duty.