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JDP
12-11-2006, 10:52 AM
This seller is honest about a problem I've seen before, I wonder what solution there could be. The bidding is up to close to 10K on his R1 Hawk, so it deserves to be saved, but how would you title it ? I know about the "secret serial number " on the frame, but it's likely to be gone on a rusty frame.

He says:


"The worst thing that happened while in the care of the body shop was that the cowl sequence tag and the VIN tag in the driver's door jamb were removed, and then lost. I know of no company reproducing these right now, so you'll have to look elsewhere on the body to find the VIN that matches my clear Colorado title and the Studebaker-supplied build sheet."

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JDP
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KGlowacky
12-11-2006, 03:42 PM
I know we have covered this topic from all angles so here is my thoughts. A good clear title and a build sheet is a strong starting point. I would look for the serial numbers on the frame first. If I found them or not I would get a Vin number plate (maybe use a repo stude plate of some type as I am not familiar with what is correct for this year) made with the title/ Vin on it and attach it to the car. Then I would do some research on the car. I would contact the company who makes these repo plates and see if they could make one. Please keep in mind that these are only steel plates to identify a car. I think sometimes we stude guys get to detailed on these things. Only maybe 300 people in the world would know this would be the wrong style plate. Most GM and Ford cars of the 60's and back had nothing more then a ss strip with a Vin number stamped to it. NO state inspection station that I have ever been to would know the diff. In closing let me say that I would confirm the numbers on the title for correctness and would not proceed if I had any doubt of fraud. Also I am NOT saying this is not a problem that needs to be addressed just that sometimes we old car nuts try to hard to solve these problems. Good Luck

KGlowacky
12-11-2006, 03:42 PM
I know we have covered this topic from all angles so here is my thoughts. A good clear title and a build sheet is a strong starting point. I would look for the serial numbers on the frame first. If I found them or not I would get a Vin number plate (maybe use a repo stude plate of some type as I am not familiar with what is correct for this year) made with the title/ Vin on it and attach it to the car. Then I would do some research on the car. I would contact the company who makes these repo plates and see if they could make one. Please keep in mind that these are only steel plates to identify a car. I think sometimes we stude guys get to detailed on these things. Only maybe 300 people in the world would know this would be the wrong style plate. Most GM and Ford cars of the 60's and back had nothing more then a ss strip with a Vin number stamped to it. NO state inspection station that I have ever been to would know the diff. In closing let me say that I would confirm the numbers on the title for correctness and would not proceed if I had any doubt of fraud. Also I am NOT saying this is not a problem that needs to be addressed just that sometimes we old car nuts try to hard to solve these problems. Good Luck

JDP
12-11-2006, 04:20 PM
I once bought a 63 Hawk the owner was buying 64 trim for. He had a 64 title from a scrap car and had already cut a stainless plate with the correct decal on it. He had it engraved with the 64 serial number and was ready to go. had I have waited a few months, I would have bought a "64 Hawk" without a clue:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
JDP
Arnold Md.
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
My Ebay Items
http://www.stude.com/EBAY/

64 GT hawk
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) #2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Hawk
59 3E truck
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
12-11-2006, 04:20 PM
I once bought a 63 Hawk the owner was buying 64 trim for. He had a 64 title from a scrap car and had already cut a stainless plate with the correct decal on it. He had it engraved with the 64 serial number and was ready to go. had I have waited a few months, I would have bought a "64 Hawk" without a clue:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
JDP
Arnold Md.
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
My Ebay Items
http://www.stude.com/EBAY/

64 GT hawk
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) #2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Hawk
59 3E truck
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander