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sntsftbll
12-06-2006, 10:05 PM
Okay I am new to the forum so I might as well let you know how dumb I am right away. Have an M5 and was replacing leaking head gasket, thought I would lap the valves while it was open. Here is the problem when I was removing the keeper off one of the valve stems I dropped in and it went down the oil return and I heard it hit in the pan. Any ideas short of dropping the pan on how to get it out?

Roscomacaw
12-06-2006, 10:19 PM
OR... if you had another keeper, you could use it and not worry about the one in the pan.[^]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

John Kirchhoff
12-06-2006, 11:17 PM
I prefer to think you're not dumb but rather had a dumb thing happen. I could write a book about all the dumb things I've done over the years, some just annoying and others rather expensive. Besides, the person that makes no mistakes is doing nothing. You know what they say, there's two kinds of people, those that have made mistakes and those that will make mistakes.

53k
12-07-2006, 08:44 AM
quote:Originally posted by sntsftbll

Okay I am new to the forum so I might as well let you know how dumb I am right away. Have an M5 and was replacing leaking head gasket, thought I would lap the valves while it was open. Here is the problem when I was removing the keeper off one of the valve stems I dropped in and it went down the oil return and I heard it hit in the pan. Any ideas short of dropping the pan on how to get it out?

Believe me, dropping a keeper is a very common problem (spoken from experience). I would go for the idea of just using another and not worrying about the one in the pan. Next time just put a cloth or screen over the openings where a keeper might fall.

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'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

sntsftbll
12-07-2006, 05:28 PM
Now you tell me about the rag or screen to cover the returns. That makes this your fault!! Come on over and get the dang thing out. (just kidding) I knew as soon as I heard the ping of the keeper hitting the fan that a rag probably would have been a good idea.
I am going to go with the leaving it in theory because I couldn't get it out. More than likely it may be caught in sludge in the bottom part of the pan since I can't get it to even move.
Thanks for the input! it was truly appreciated!

Roscomacaw
12-07-2006, 07:32 PM
That's why we let ol' Paul hang out here. He'll take the blame for anything that's gone wrong. For that matter, if it makes anyone's life easier, next time you screw up, mumble (or holler if it's appropriate) "Damned Biggs!" I won't mind.:D

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the BerStuda Triangle
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

53k
12-07-2006, 07:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

That's why we let ol' Paul hang out here. He'll take the blame for anything that's gone wrong. ...
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Hey Biggs, I get the blame around the house all the time. Why should a little more bother me:D?
BTW, I like that new treatment of your signature photo. Where did you come up with that?



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'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

Roscomacaw
12-07-2006, 11:36 PM
The photo "treatment" is an option in the Irfanview photo editing software. It's called the 3D effect.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe