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Tazman
12-05-2006, 10:33 AM
I have recently accuired a a 1964 Daytona 4Dr 259 V8 car in near mint condition.Found her in a garage covered only has 40,000 miles on her.I have no idea what the car is worth.Runs like a champ.Needs tires they are cracked badly.I offered the owner 3,500$ he said he would take it.Car is in near show room quality-no rust.Question is is the car worth 3500 or not at all.Please help!

Scott
12-05-2006, 10:35 AM
YES, absolutely it's worth that, especially if you want to drive it and have fun with it. I've seen ones like that go for up to $7000.

Scott
12-05-2006, 10:35 AM
YES, absolutely it's worth that, especially if you want to drive it and have fun with it. I've seen ones like that go for up to $7000.

Dick Steinkamp
12-05-2006, 10:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by Tazman

I have recently accuired a a 1964 Daytona 4Dr 259 V8 car in near mint condition.Found her in a garage covered only has 40,000 miles on her.I have no idea what the car is worth.Runs like a champ.Needs tires they are cracked badly.I offered the owner 3,500$ he said he would take it.Car is in near show room quality-no rust.Question is is the car worth 3500 or not at all.Please help!


If it is "showroom quality" it is certainly worth that (maybe triple that)...however, the definition of "showroom quality" varies. For me, it would be difficult to have a vehicle with 40,000 miles on it and look like it just came out of the showroom (possible but difficult).

Even if it is just a good #3 car, however (Very good, completely operable original...most of the vehicles seen at car shows are #3's) you did just fine.

Post some pictures :)

http://static.flickr.com/100/301465853_2dbe07b7c6_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-05-2006, 10:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by Tazman

I have recently accuired a a 1964 Daytona 4Dr 259 V8 car in near mint condition.Found her in a garage covered only has 40,000 miles on her.I have no idea what the car is worth.Runs like a champ.Needs tires they are cracked badly.I offered the owner 3,500$ he said he would take it.Car is in near show room quality-no rust.Question is is the car worth 3500 or not at all.Please help!


If it is "showroom quality" it is certainly worth that (maybe triple that)...however, the definition of "showroom quality" varies. For me, it would be difficult to have a vehicle with 40,000 miles on it and look like it just came out of the showroom (possible but difficult).

Even if it is just a good #3 car, however (Very good, completely operable original...most of the vehicles seen at car shows are #3's) you did just fine.

Post some pictures :)

http://static.flickr.com/100/301465853_2dbe07b7c6_m.jpg
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Guido
12-05-2006, 11:11 AM
Mr. Taz,

If you are concerned about being upside down on the car please let me know. I think I could scrape together enough money to reimburse you for your purchase. ;)

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
12-05-2006, 11:11 AM
Mr. Taz,

If you are concerned about being upside down on the car please let me know. I think I could scrape together enough money to reimburse you for your purchase. ;)

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Tazman
12-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Im not really interested in keeping the car.More so in cleaning it up and maybe have it detailed and make sure all is mechanically sound.Hoses,belts,tires,ect.Just the little things and re-selling the car,because it really needs to be in the hands of a collector or someone who know more about the car.

Tazman
12-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Im not really interested in keeping the car.More so in cleaning it up and maybe have it detailed and make sure all is mechanically sound.Hoses,belts,tires,ect.Just the little things and re-selling the car,because it really needs to be in the hands of a collector or someone who know more about the car.

JDP
12-05-2006, 02:12 PM
I've found it hard to get much over 4K for a 4 door 64 unless it's nearly flawless, then maybe a bit more. You might be better off selling it as is for a smaller profit then to end up putting a lot of money and labor in the car and getting upside down. i.e. tires, brakes and odds and ends could put you $4000-$4500 in and then risk just breaking even.
If it has AC, bucket seats or other nice options, that will add to the value.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
JDP
Arnold Md.
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
My Ebay Items
http://www.stude.com/EBAY/

64 GT hawk
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) #2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Hawk
59 3E truck
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
12-05-2006, 02:12 PM
I've found it hard to get much over 4K for a 4 door 64 unless it's nearly flawless, then maybe a bit more. You might be better off selling it as is for a smaller profit then to end up putting a lot of money and labor in the car and getting upside down. i.e. tires, brakes and odds and ends could put you $4000-$4500 in and then risk just breaking even.
If it has AC, bucket seats or other nice options, that will add to the value.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
JDP
Arnold Md.
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
My Ebay Items
http://www.stude.com/EBAY/

64 GT hawk
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) #2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Hawk
59 3E truck
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

showbizkid
12-05-2006, 06:07 PM
Taz, you might just find that you like driving it! :D If not, I'm sure some of the fellows here would be happy to take it off your hands.

Can you post some pictures?


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
12-05-2006, 06:07 PM
Taz, you might just find that you like driving it! :D If not, I'm sure some of the fellows here would be happy to take it off your hands.

Can you post some pictures?


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

Guido
12-05-2006, 09:26 PM
Mr. Taz,

Where are you? Drop me a post off forum (thehearns at verizon dot net) and maybe I can take it off your hands.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
12-05-2006, 09:26 PM
Mr. Taz,

Where are you? Drop me a post off forum (thehearns at verizon dot net) and maybe I can take it off your hands.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

go-studebaker
12-07-2006, 07:36 AM
It seems like every Studebaker that exists that is for sale today has under 100k miles.

I have never seen so many low milage cars with incorrect interiors rebuilt motors, warn out front ends etc that seem to be for sale.

Very few cars are low mileage cars. It is the dream to own a well looked after one, but it is my experience, very few Studebakers have ever been looked after like that. I think they call them survivors.

Any car from the 60's is a survivor.

I wish you all the best working on the car and hope you get the chance to drive it, If it is a good one, it is a lot of car for $3.5k and those Larks are the best driving Studebaker ever made.

Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1988 Avanti Convertible

go-studebaker
12-07-2006, 07:36 AM
It seems like every Studebaker that exists that is for sale today has under 100k miles.

I have never seen so many low milage cars with incorrect interiors rebuilt motors, warn out front ends etc that seem to be for sale.

Very few cars are low mileage cars. It is the dream to own a well looked after one, but it is my experience, very few Studebakers have ever been looked after like that. I think they call them survivors.

Any car from the 60's is a survivor.

I wish you all the best working on the car and hope you get the chance to drive it, If it is a good one, it is a lot of car for $3.5k and those Larks are the best driving Studebaker ever made.

Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1988 Avanti Convertible

mbstude
12-07-2006, 07:45 AM
As far as survivors go, Dr. Cade's '63 Wagonaire, 6 cylinder, 3 speed, no OD, etc. has only 5300 or so miles on it. It still has the paper around the sun visor with the sliding roof instructions. I think the engine may have been rebuilt from sitting up for so long, and it's been repainted within the last year. Aside from that, it's as close to a NOS car as you can find. [8D]

http://bulletnose.org/galleries/2006_zone_meet/04.29.06_show_gal/images/IMG_0496.jpg


Here's the car still with its original paint.

http://bulletnose.org/galleries/lake_mary_gal/images/IMG_1537.jpg

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
12-07-2006, 07:45 AM
As far as survivors go, Dr. Cade's '63 Wagonaire, 6 cylinder, 3 speed, no OD, etc. has only 5300 or so miles on it. It still has the paper around the sun visor with the sliding roof instructions. I think the engine may have been rebuilt from sitting up for so long, and it's been repainted within the last year. Aside from that, it's as close to a NOS car as you can find. [8D]

http://bulletnose.org/galleries/2006_zone_meet/04.29.06_show_gal/images/IMG_0496.jpg


Here's the car still with its original paint.

http://bulletnose.org/galleries/lake_mary_gal/images/IMG_1537.jpg

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

Roscomacaw
12-07-2006, 10:13 AM
The 58 hardtop I owned in Georgia (some 30 years ago) was as nice as this Wagonaire. Genuine little ol' lady car that felt as tight as a new car![:p]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-07-2006, 10:13 AM
The 58 hardtop I owned in Georgia (some 30 years ago) was as nice as this Wagonaire. Genuine little ol' lady car that felt as tight as a new car![:p]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

bams50
12-07-2006, 01:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by go-studebaker

It seems like every Studebaker that exists that is for sale today has under 100k miles.


While there are certainly many Studes that are claimed to have low miles that aren't, I'd bet a larger number than average ARE low miles... reason being that a lot of people bought new or almost new Studes and stored them away when Stude went under, thinking they'd be shooting up to incredible heights in value due to being no longer made, and therefore quickly becoming rare. Add to that the disproportionately large number of Studes that were owned by elderly folks, therefore not driven much.

I have personally seen quite a number of 76 Cadillac Convertibles with ultra-low mileage that were bought and put away as investments based on them being the "last" American convertibles ever built [B)][:o)]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
12-07-2006, 01:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by go-studebaker

It seems like every Studebaker that exists that is for sale today has under 100k miles.


While there are certainly many Studes that are claimed to have low miles that aren't, I'd bet a larger number than average ARE low miles... reason being that a lot of people bought new or almost new Studes and stored them away when Stude went under, thinking they'd be shooting up to incredible heights in value due to being no longer made, and therefore quickly becoming rare. Add to that the disproportionately large number of Studes that were owned by elderly folks, therefore not driven much.

I have personally seen quite a number of 76 Cadillac Convertibles with ultra-low mileage that were bought and put away as investments based on them being the "last" American convertibles ever built [B)][:o)]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

studegary
12-07-2006, 01:27 PM
I don't go along with the investment angle for low mileage Studebakers, as with Eldo Convert's., etc. There are many low mileage Studebakers out there, but definitely not all that are purported to be low miles. With the younger people, only familiar with the new odometers that record hundreds of thousands of miles, most do not realize that the odometer that they are looking at may have rolled over once, or more. There were other reasons for low mileage Studebakers. Many older people bought Studebakers, especially toward the end (of Studebaker production). Many older people drive few miles (My father's car went 11K miles in the last 13 years that he owned it.). I looked at a 1961 Lark that had 10K miles. The 80 something owner only used it to go the half mile to the center of town about once per week. The car was low mileage, even had the original tires, but it was in terrible shape from sitting in a dirt floor lean to in Ohio. The 1963 Daytona Skytop hardtop that I owned only had 34K miles on it when I sold it. The original owner was an older lawyer. He bought the Skytop for his wife to use locally in New York State in the good weather. In the Winter, the Skytop stayed in its garage at their home while the owners spent the Winter in Florida with their Cadillac. I bought a 1964 Cruiser with 14K miles. It had belonged to an older man. The Cruiser was broadsided when it was young. The owner had it put into his garage and left it there. When I was able to get the car, it yielded many excellent mechanical parts. There are many stories like this. Also, many farmers bought Studebaker cars and trucks. The cars were often used only for special occassions and for going into town a couple of times a month.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
12-07-2006, 01:27 PM
I don't go along with the investment angle for low mileage Studebakers, as with Eldo Convert's., etc. There are many low mileage Studebakers out there, but definitely not all that are purported to be low miles. With the younger people, only familiar with the new odometers that record hundreds of thousands of miles, most do not realize that the odometer that they are looking at may have rolled over once, or more. There were other reasons for low mileage Studebakers. Many older people bought Studebakers, especially toward the end (of Studebaker production). Many older people drive few miles (My father's car went 11K miles in the last 13 years that he owned it.). I looked at a 1961 Lark that had 10K miles. The 80 something owner only used it to go the half mile to the center of town about once per week. The car was low mileage, even had the original tires, but it was in terrible shape from sitting in a dirt floor lean to in Ohio. The 1963 Daytona Skytop hardtop that I owned only had 34K miles on it when I sold it. The original owner was an older lawyer. He bought the Skytop for his wife to use locally in New York State in the good weather. In the Winter, the Skytop stayed in its garage at their home while the owners spent the Winter in Florida with their Cadillac. I bought a 1964 Cruiser with 14K miles. It had belonged to an older man. The Cruiser was broadsided when it was young. The owner had it put into his garage and left it there. When I was able to get the car, it yielded many excellent mechanical parts. There are many stories like this. Also, many farmers bought Studebaker cars and trucks. The cars were often used only for special occassions and for going into town a couple of times a month.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

bams50
12-07-2006, 03:22 PM
I know people even today that think that just b/c Studes aren't made any more, they're still rocketing upward in value; just watch eBay, i.e. the rough coupe that recently listed with a starting bid of over $10K [xx(] I've seen Studes locally that were almost too rough to save, yet the owner has told me they're not about to part with it b/c it'll be "worth a lot" a few years down the road... I know people who have all different makes they bought new or close to it and use very little because it's an "investment"- like a 78 Malibu 4 dr. with 32K... so I'm sure it's happened plenty with Studes.

Your other points are right on; particularly about older folks buying them, as I said in my first post.

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
12-07-2006, 03:22 PM
I know people even today that think that just b/c Studes aren't made any more, they're still rocketing upward in value; just watch eBay, i.e. the rough coupe that recently listed with a starting bid of over $10K [xx(] I've seen Studes locally that were almost too rough to save, yet the owner has told me they're not about to part with it b/c it'll be "worth a lot" a few years down the road... I know people who have all different makes they bought new or close to it and use very little because it's an "investment"- like a 78 Malibu 4 dr. with 32K... so I'm sure it's happened plenty with Studes.

Your other points are right on; particularly about older folks buying them, as I said in my first post.

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

Bill Pressler
12-07-2006, 04:18 PM
So true about older folks being a disproportionate percentage of Stude owners, especially near the end. I think I posted this before here someplace, but not quite a year ago I made an appointment to visit the SNM Archives and look at retail sales records for my local dealer in Greenville, PA (a friend of mine). I spent most of a day and it required Andy Beckman's assistance. (I left what I felt was a fairly generous SNM donation for their help.) They had them from Sept. '63 'til '66 (although '65 for this particularly dealer seemed to be missing some). I wrote down every name with every serial number car. Several I recognized as school teachers and some were friends and coworkers of my Dad's (small town). Once I got home, I looked up many of the names in ancestry.com for death records (birth dates included there). I think of probably 45 in total, something like four were under age fifty when they purchased their Studebaker (at least those no longer still with us! Sadly, I was able to confirm that most owners had passed on).

While there, I also looked up the retail sales records for two different friends' '64 Studes. One was a GT. The other was a '64 Daytona Hardtop. One was from a California dealer and the other from an eastern PA dealer. Again, via ancestry.com, I was able to determine that the GT owner was born in 1892 (!) and the Daytona Hardtop owner was born in the first decade of the 20th century (which exact year escapes me now).

I think this accounts for a decent number of low-mileage cars out there.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Daytona Skytop R1

Bill Pressler
12-07-2006, 04:18 PM
So true about older folks being a disproportionate percentage of Stude owners, especially near the end. I think I posted this before here someplace, but not quite a year ago I made an appointment to visit the SNM Archives and look at retail sales records for my local dealer in Greenville, PA (a friend of mine). I spent most of a day and it required Andy Beckman's assistance. (I left what I felt was a fairly generous SNM donation for their help.) They had them from Sept. '63 'til '66 (although '65 for this particularly dealer seemed to be missing some). I wrote down every name with every serial number car. Several I recognized as school teachers and some were friends and coworkers of my Dad's (small town). Once I got home, I looked up many of the names in ancestry.com for death records (birth dates included there). I think of probably 45 in total, something like four were under age fifty when they purchased their Studebaker (at least those no longer still with us! Sadly, I was able to confirm that most owners had passed on).

While there, I also looked up the retail sales records for two different friends' '64 Studes. One was a GT. The other was a '64 Daytona Hardtop. One was from a California dealer and the other from an eastern PA dealer. Again, via ancestry.com, I was able to determine that the GT owner was born in 1892 (!) and the Daytona Hardtop owner was born in the first decade of the 20th century (which exact year escapes me now).

I think this accounts for a decent number of low-mileage cars out there.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Daytona Skytop R1