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arkiejazz
12-04-2006, 04:58 PM
Driving south of town today, I spotted a familiar shape sitting in front of The Red Barn Antique Shop. Turned around to investigate and sort of wished that I hadn't bothered. What I had seen was an R-Series pickup that someone had stuck a Transtar hood and door trim on and then added a cheapie Maaco paint job.......cheap but thorough, including all the dirt, dents and weather seals. It's one of those rigs that would have been better off left alone, especially considering the guy's asking price of $5,500 bucks. The last picture isn't Studebaker, but it's what I drive when the weather isn't fit for me to get one of the Studebakers out
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous/002_RT.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous/001_RT.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous/004_RT.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous/003_RT.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous/005_Binder.jpg

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

Randy_G
12-04-2006, 07:22 PM
Ok Steve me and you need to have a e-mail session. I would have never paid that guy the money he wants for the truck. But I would in no way know that it wasn't a Transtar just by looking at it.[xx(]. To be honest all those round cab rascals look the same to me[V] Maybe that would be a great thread or a Question for the FAQ section that seems to never get published. What is the difference in the two truck's?? I know this guy that has a website that would put this information on it if he got an education on them.,, nice International, another company that should still be making passenger vehicles but wimped out.[}:)] I was at a International parts distribution center some years ago and I had to ask some of the old timers there. "Why did International get of the small truck business?" He told me that the company told everyone it was because they didnt have the dealer base to continue selling them... I did'nt buy the story then either, and neither did the guy. Ok I'm off my soapbox.


http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/59s2.jpg
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com

Randy_G
12-04-2006, 07:22 PM
Ok Steve me and you need to have a e-mail session. I would have never paid that guy the money he wants for the truck. But I would in no way know that it wasn't a Transtar just by looking at it.[xx(]. To be honest all those round cab rascals look the same to me[V] Maybe that would be a great thread or a Question for the FAQ section that seems to never get published. What is the difference in the two truck's?? I know this guy that has a website that would put this information on it if he got an education on them.,, nice International, another company that should still be making passenger vehicles but wimped out.[}:)] I was at a International parts distribution center some years ago and I had to ask some of the old timers there. "Why did International get of the small truck business?" He told me that the company told everyone it was because they didnt have the dealer base to continue selling them... I did'nt buy the story then either, and neither did the guy. Ok I'm off my soapbox.


http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/59s2.jpg
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com

Guido
12-04-2006, 07:44 PM
Randy,

The easiest way to tell that this is a "R" series cab is the small back window that was used from 1949 through 1954. They went to the one piece windshield in 1954, the large back window in 1955. The picture also shows a "R" series dash, the Transtars had flat metal instead of the stamped patterns you see in Steve's pictures.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
12-04-2006, 07:44 PM
Randy,

The easiest way to tell that this is a "R" series cab is the small back window that was used from 1949 through 1954. They went to the one piece windshield in 1954, the large back window in 1955. The picture also shows a "R" series dash, the Transtars had flat metal instead of the stamped patterns you see in Steve's pictures.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

rockne10
12-04-2006, 07:58 PM
Other than being scabbed together is it pretty solid? Could be returned to original if someone had the notion?

Time should be spent taking these things apart and putting them back together, rather than being picked apart and discarded out of hand.

Its fate could have been worse, Steve. You could have driven by and there could have been no Studebaker truck at all.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

rockne10
12-04-2006, 07:58 PM
Other than being scabbed together is it pretty solid? Could be returned to original if someone had the notion?

Time should be spent taking these things apart and putting them back together, rather than being picked apart and discarded out of hand.

Its fate could have been worse, Steve. You could have driven by and there could have been no Studebaker truck at all.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

arkiejazz
12-04-2006, 09:18 PM
Well, Brad, maybe I'm the oddball here. I would have much preferred to see the original R-Series pickup no matter how shabby it might have been. At that point, a person probably could have bought it reasonably enough to still be able to give it a proper restoration. As it sits now, nobody in the right frame of mind would pay $5,500 for something that is still in need of a total restoration. Actually, the work that was done on the truck will do nothing but make it all that much harder to restore. Yes, it appears to be basically solid. That being said, you'd have a wavy bucket of mess to deal with. That's not the sort of Studebaker I care for the public to see. I think it's ALOT better to have trucks like Anne Goodman's "Gus" out in the public eye than a circus attraction like the one in my pictures here. Of course, this is all purely my own humble opinion.

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
12-04-2006, 09:18 PM
Well, Brad, maybe I'm the oddball here. I would have much preferred to see the original R-Series pickup no matter how shabby it might have been. At that point, a person probably could have bought it reasonably enough to still be able to give it a proper restoration. As it sits now, nobody in the right frame of mind would pay $5,500 for something that is still in need of a total restoration. Actually, the work that was done on the truck will do nothing but make it all that much harder to restore. Yes, it appears to be basically solid. That being said, you'd have a wavy bucket of mess to deal with. That's not the sort of Studebaker I care for the public to see. I think it's ALOT better to have trucks like Anne Goodman's "Gus" out in the public eye than a circus attraction like the one in my pictures here. Of course, this is all purely my own humble opinion.

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

bams50
12-04-2006, 09:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Other than being scabbed together is it pretty solid? Could be returned to original if someone had the notion?

Time should be spent taking these things apart and putting them back together, rather than being picked apart and discarded out of hand.



Good point! Only problem being the seller's price...[B)]

Maybe the quickie paint will preserve it till the seller gets realistic and it can get into the hands of someone who can do it justice...................

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
12-04-2006, 09:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Other than being scabbed together is it pretty solid? Could be returned to original if someone had the notion?

Time should be spent taking these things apart and putting them back together, rather than being picked apart and discarded out of hand.



Good point! Only problem being the seller's price...[B)]

Maybe the quickie paint will preserve it till the seller gets realistic and it can get into the hands of someone who can do it justice...................

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bob40
12-04-2006, 09:43 PM
I guess I would have to disagree slightly with you on that. 99.8% of the public cant tell the difference between a correct Studebaker and a incorrect one.The question just asked to tell the difference between models shows not all of us here can either.I couldnt but I'm still learning.I tend to agree with the crowd that says any Stude out in the public eye is a good thing.Stock,modified,circus attraction,whatever.That 99.8% out there enjoys seeing a cool old car that they have never seen before or recognize from their youth.There have been posts about Studes being confused with Ramblers and Mercedes Benz's.Even if not correct it keeps the marque in the public eye.I doubt a debate over whether that truck was supposed to look like it does would occur at a drive-in cruise night.

bob40
12-04-2006, 09:43 PM
I guess I would have to disagree slightly with you on that. 99.8% of the public cant tell the difference between a correct Studebaker and a incorrect one.The question just asked to tell the difference between models shows not all of us here can either.I couldnt but I'm still learning.I tend to agree with the crowd that says any Stude out in the public eye is a good thing.Stock,modified,circus attraction,whatever.That 99.8% out there enjoys seeing a cool old car that they have never seen before or recognize from their youth.There have been posts about Studes being confused with Ramblers and Mercedes Benz's.Even if not correct it keeps the marque in the public eye.I doubt a debate over whether that truck was supposed to look like it does would occur at a drive-in cruise night.

rockne10
12-04-2006, 09:48 PM
The paint scheme does make me heave. I probably wouldn't have returned to look; just shake my head and travel on.[V]

rockne10
12-04-2006, 09:48 PM
The paint scheme does make me heave. I probably wouldn't have returned to look; just shake my head and travel on.[V]

kurtruk
12-04-2006, 10:40 PM
Would it not be more likely someone needed a new door and swapped the whole door rather than took the time to ADD Transtar trim?

KURTRUK
(read it backwards;))

kurtruk
12-04-2006, 10:40 PM
Would it not be more likely someone needed a new door and swapped the whole door rather than took the time to ADD Transtar trim?

KURTRUK
(read it backwards;))

arkiejazz
12-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Sure, that's possible, but they also swapped a wrong hood and a wrong grill.

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
12-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Sure, that's possible, but they also swapped a wrong hood and a wrong grill.

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

DilloCrafter
12-04-2006, 10:56 PM
The gauges in that truck are from a later, 12v model (probably from the same Transtar that donated the hood). So, at least it has been converted to 12v, but how well? They may have kept the 6v overdrive solenoid, which could eventually burn out.

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
12-04-2006, 10:56 PM
The gauges in that truck are from a later, 12v model (probably from the same Transtar that donated the hood). So, at least it has been converted to 12v, but how well? They may have kept the 6v overdrive solenoid, which could eventually burn out.

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

arkiejazz
12-05-2006, 05:36 AM
Do you suppose they had this color combo in mind?
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous%20Studebaker%20Stuff/greenjeansathome222.jpg

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
12-05-2006, 05:36 AM
Do you suppose they had this color combo in mind?
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l68/arkiejazz/Miscellaneous%20Studebaker%20Stuff/greenjeansathome222.jpg

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

Anne F. Goodman
12-05-2006, 08:23 AM
Is that Mr.Green Jeans? Boy that sure is a nice truck.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
Fresno,Ca

Anne F. Goodman
12-05-2006, 08:23 AM
Is that Mr.Green Jeans? Boy that sure is a nice truck.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
Fresno,Ca

Dick Steinkamp
12-05-2006, 11:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by arkiejazz

[b]Yes, maam, that's Mr. Green Jeans.


WOW!! [:p]



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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

Dick Steinkamp
12-05-2006, 11:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by arkiejazz

[b]Yes, maam, that's Mr. Green Jeans.


WOW!! [:p]



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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

arkiejazz
12-05-2006, 11:06 AM
Yes, maam, that's Mr. Green Jeans. He's mad at me for driving the Binder yesterday. But, I just don't like to run Mr. Green Jeans in the snow.

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
12-05-2006, 11:06 AM
Yes, maam, that's Mr. Green Jeans. He's mad at me for driving the Binder yesterday. But, I just don't like to run Mr. Green Jeans in the snow.

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh