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lstude
12-02-2006, 04:15 PM
I collect old snapshots of Studebakers and I also have a large collection of the Studebakers that were in my family when I was growing up. The photos start with my Grandfather's 42 Commander and end with the 62 GT Hawk I had in college. If anyone has old photos of the cars they grew up with, please post them on this site. It should be very interesting, especially if they are like the 58 Packard that Mr. Biggs posted.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Familycarscollage1.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Familycarscollage2.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Familycarscollage3.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 07:37 AM
In the summer of 1958, my Mother wanted to trade in her 53 Champion for a new car, with my prodding! The salesman at Pence-Briggs Studebaker brought out a 58 Champion 4 door sedan. It was white with a black top with single headlights in the dual pods and dog dish hub caps. I said that is the ugliest car I have ever seen (of course, now I think 58 sedans are neat!). I pitched such a fit, that the salesman took the car back and a few days later came out with a 58 Silver Hawk, white with gold fins and a 289 4bbl. engine. After much persuading, my Mother bought it. It was probably the happiest day of my life. I was only 13 but I learned to drive on it at the age of 15 which was the legal age to drive in VA back then. Below is my Sister and her friend in the trunk.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58HawkIsabelJaneintrunk.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 07:37 AM
In the summer of 1958, my Mother wanted to trade in her 53 Champion for a new car, with my prodding! The salesman at Pence-Briggs Studebaker brought out a 58 Champion 4 door sedan. It was white with a black top with single headlights in the dual pods and dog dish hub caps. I said that is the ugliest car I have ever seen (of course, now I think 58 sedans are neat!). I pitched such a fit, that the salesman took the car back and a few days later came out with a 58 Silver Hawk, white with gold fins and a 289 4bbl. engine. After much persuading, my Mother bought it. It was probably the happiest day of my life. I was only 13 but I learned to drive on it at the age of 15 which was the legal age to drive in VA back then. Below is my Sister and her friend in the trunk.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58HawkIsabelJaneintrunk.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 07:44 AM
I made some modifications to the Hawk. I painted the wheel rims black and sent away to J.C. Whitney for some flippers which I put on the wheel covers. I put on the curb feelers to keep my Mother from knocking the flippers off, but she did it anyway. I later put full moon wheel covers on it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58Hawkwheelcoverflipper.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 07:44 AM
I made some modifications to the Hawk. I painted the wheel rims black and sent away to J.C. Whitney for some flippers which I put on the wheel covers. I put on the curb feelers to keep my Mother from knocking the flippers off, but she did it anyway. I later put full moon wheel covers on it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58Hawkwheelcoverflipper.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 07:49 AM
I also made some modifications to the engine like the chrome air cleaner, red translucent spark plug wires (which interfered with the radio!) and I pinstriped the valve covers.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58Hawkengine1961.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 07:49 AM
I also made some modifications to the engine like the chrome air cleaner, red translucent spark plug wires (which interfered with the radio!) and I pinstriped the valve covers.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58Hawkengine1961.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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mbstude
12-03-2006, 06:19 PM
Hey lstude, what's that on the fan shroud of the Hawk?

I think my grandad has a couple of shots of some of the cars he has now from when he first got them. Like the faded old '57 Silver Hawk he purchased in 1979. But that's not what you meant...
I doubt it if he has any pics of his Dad's Studes or his when we was my age. [8D] A '48 Champ ragtop, I might add.

My great aunt gave me this picture. I'm pretty sure the girl is of no relations to me, but I thought I'd share anyways. :)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/2R5_smith.jpg

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
12-03-2006, 06:19 PM
Hey lstude, what's that on the fan shroud of the Hawk?

I think my grandad has a couple of shots of some of the cars he has now from when he first got them. Like the faded old '57 Silver Hawk he purchased in 1979. But that's not what you meant...
I doubt it if he has any pics of his Dad's Studes or his when we was my age. [8D] A '48 Champ ragtop, I might add.

My great aunt gave me this picture. I'm pretty sure the girl is of no relations to me, but I thought I'd share anyways. :)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/2R5_smith.jpg

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

lstude
12-03-2006, 09:07 PM
quote: Hey lstude, what's that on the fan shroud of the Hawk?


I painted the word "STUDEBAKER" with little V8s on each side. Thanks for posting that photo. Most of the Silver Hawk pics that I posted were taken when I was 16 ( Your age? ), so just think, when you get my age in 2051, you can post yours.:D:D:D Here is a picture of me and my friend who had a 56 Chevy getting ready to run 'em.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58HawkJoeme.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-03-2006, 09:07 PM
quote: Hey lstude, what's that on the fan shroud of the Hawk?


I painted the word "STUDEBAKER" with little V8s on each side. Thanks for posting that photo. Most of the Silver Hawk pics that I posted were taken when I was 16 ( Your age? ), so just think, when you get my age in 2051, you can post yours.:D:D:D Here is a picture of me and my friend who had a 56 Chevy getting ready to run 'em.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58HawkJoeme.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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kromer891
12-03-2006, 10:04 PM
That last picture is great! Thanks a lot for sharing :)

kromer891
12-03-2006, 10:04 PM
That last picture is great! Thanks a lot for sharing :)

lstude
12-05-2006, 06:19 AM
And who says you can't get a girl with a Studebaker?! Of course, it doesn't help me now:D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/My62GTHawkwithPatA.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-05-2006, 06:19 AM
And who says you can't get a girl with a Studebaker?! Of course, it doesn't help me now:D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/My62GTHawkwithPatA.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

mbstude
12-05-2006, 07:11 AM
Yeas lstude, I'm 16. I have a LOT of pics I'll have to share, that's for sure! :D

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
12-05-2006, 07:11 AM
Yeas lstude, I'm 16. I have a LOT of pics I'll have to share, that's for sure! :D

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
12-05-2006, 08:18 AM
quote:Here is a picture of me and my friend who had a 56 Chevy getting ready to run 'em.

Who won? [8D]

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
12-05-2006, 08:18 AM
quote:Here is a picture of me and my friend who had a 56 Chevy getting ready to run 'em.

Who won? [8D]

___________________________________________

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, Georgia
'59 Scotsman PU
'63 Daytona HT

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

65cruiser
12-05-2006, 08:48 AM
Here's a picture of my mom & dad standing in front of a 1950 Land Cruiser, sometime in 1952.

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/momdad.jpg

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
12-05-2006, 08:48 AM
Here's a picture of my mom & dad standing in front of a 1950 Land Cruiser, sometime in 1952.

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/momdad.jpg

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

lstude
12-05-2006, 09:48 AM
quote:Here is a picture of me and my friend who had a 56 Chevy getting ready to run 'em.

Who won?
When Joe first bought the Chevy it was Powerglide and I could outrun him, but he changed it over to 3 on the floor and put a "Duntov" cam in it and then he could get me off the line:(

Mark, that's a great shot of your parents by the Land Cruiser. That is a late Land Cruiser with chrome headlight rims.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-05-2006, 09:48 AM
quote:Here is a picture of me and my friend who had a 56 Chevy getting ready to run 'em.

Who won?
When Joe first bought the Chevy it was Powerglide and I could outrun him, but he changed it over to 3 on the floor and put a "Duntov" cam in it and then he could get me off the line:(

Mark, that's a great shot of your parents by the Land Cruiser. That is a late Land Cruiser with chrome headlight rims.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-05-2006, 07:18 PM
quote: And who says you can't get a girl with a Studebaker?! Of course, it doesn't help me now

Here's the type of gals that are attracted to me now!:D:D Actually they were my great aunts in our 53 Champion with my mother standing.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Backupdisc1476.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-05-2006, 07:18 PM
quote: And who says you can't get a girl with a Studebaker?! Of course, it doesn't help me now

Here's the type of gals that are attracted to me now!:D:D Actually they were my great aunts in our 53 Champion with my mother standing.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Backupdisc1476.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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studegary
12-06-2006, 01:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

And who says you can't get a girl with a Studebaker?! Of course, it doesn't help me now:D

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/



When I was single, it seemed that a lot of girls were attracted to my Studebaker. When my wife and I met, we both only had Studebakers. I had a 1957 President Classic and she had a 1953 Champion sedan.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
12-06-2006, 01:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

And who says you can't get a girl with a Studebaker?! Of course, it doesn't help me now:D

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/



When I was single, it seemed that a lot of girls were attracted to my Studebaker. When my wife and I met, we both only had Studebakers. I had a 1957 President Classic and she had a 1953 Champion sedan.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

lstude
12-06-2006, 08:54 PM
quote:When I was single, it seemed that a lot of girls were attracted to my Studebaker. When my wife and I met, we both only had Studebakers. I had a 1957 President Classic and she had a 1953 Champion sedan.

Gary L.
Do you have pics of the Studes (or the girls!)[?][:p] If so, post them here.
Below is a picture of my 62 GT and a friend's Triumph TR4

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Backupdisc1117.jpg


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lstude
12-06-2006, 08:54 PM
quote:When I was single, it seemed that a lot of girls were attracted to my Studebaker. When my wife and I met, we both only had Studebakers. I had a 1957 President Classic and she had a 1953 Champion sedan.

Gary L.
Do you have pics of the Studes (or the girls!)[?][:p] If so, post them here.
Below is a picture of my 62 GT and a friend's Triumph TR4

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Backupdisc1117.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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studegary
12-06-2006, 10:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Here's a picture of my mom & dad standing in front of a 1950 Land Cruiser, sometime in 1952.

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/momdad.jpg

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg


Maybe it is my poor monitor quality or the car has been modified, but the car pictured looks like a regular Commander and not a Land Cruiser.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
12-06-2006, 10:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Here's a picture of my mom & dad standing in front of a 1950 Land Cruiser, sometime in 1952.

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/momdad.jpg

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg


Maybe it is my poor monitor quality or the car has been modified, but the car pictured looks like a regular Commander and not a Land Cruiser.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

65cruiser
12-07-2006, 05:55 AM
I think you're right. Dad told me he remembered it as a Land Cruiser (it belonged to his brother). It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it doesn't look like it has rear vent windows in the doors.

How come some 1950 Studebaker's have a split windshield and other's don't? A mid-year change?


quote:Originally posted by studegary


quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Here's a picture of my mom & dad standing in front of a 1950 Land Cruiser, sometime in 1952.

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/momdad.jpg

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg


Maybe it is my poor monitor quality or the car has been modified, but the car pictured looks like a regular Commander and not a Land Cruiser.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)


________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
12-07-2006, 05:55 AM
I think you're right. Dad told me he remembered it as a Land Cruiser (it belonged to his brother). It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it doesn't look like it has rear vent windows in the doors.

How come some 1950 Studebaker's have a split windshield and other's don't? A mid-year change?


quote:Originally posted by studegary


quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Here's a picture of my mom & dad standing in front of a 1950 Land Cruiser, sometime in 1952.

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/momdad.jpg

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg


Maybe it is my poor monitor quality or the car has been modified, but the car pictured looks like a regular Commander and not a Land Cruiser.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)


________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

lstude
12-07-2006, 06:16 AM
quote:How come some 1950 Studebaker's have a split windshield and other's don't? A mid-year change?

In 1950, the one piece windshield was only used on the Land Cruiser, Starlight coupe and convertible.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-07-2006, 06:16 AM
quote:How come some 1950 Studebaker's have a split windshield and other's don't? A mid-year change?

In 1950, the one piece windshield was only used on the Land Cruiser, Starlight coupe and convertible.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-07-2006, 07:31 PM
I received these pictures and story from Bill Adams:
Actually, my interest in Studebakers started about two
years ago when I found some old negatives of my mom
and dad that had fallen back behind a drawer in an old
desk my parents owned. After my dad returned from
WWII, he sold Studebakers at his fathers' Studebaker
dealership in the Los Angeles area (I think it may
have been in Alhambra or possibly Pasadena). He met
my mom when the dealership supplied a Studebaker
convertible for a parade my mom was participating in
Alhambra, and she ended up riding in the Studebaker
(see 1st photo. My mom is the blonde and you can see
my grandfather's dealership name on the side of the
car). When they married, of course they left on their
honeymoon in a Studebaker (see 2nd & 3rd photos). The
next photo is of my mom in the 1949 Miss California
Pageant held in Santa Cruz, CA (she finished third!).
No Studebaker in this picture, but it's a nice shot of
my mom.

I had forgotten all about these past ties to
Studebaker until I found the negatives, as my mom
passed away in 1976 and my dad a little after that.
However, finding the negatives sparked my interest in
Studebakers so I started looking into them. I decided
I wanted a Hawk because that was my earliest memory of
a Studebaker when I was about 6 or 7 (I was born in
1951) and I really liked their style. I now own a 1957
Silver Hawk with a 185 flathead. It seems to run very
well however, the engine blows smoke out the exhaust
so I don't really drive it much until I can afford to
find out what's wrong (unfortunately I don't really
know how to work on cars although I'm trying to
learn).

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoStudeinparade.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoMomDadlooking.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoMomDadbycar.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoMom.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-07-2006, 07:31 PM
I received these pictures and story from Bill Adams:
Actually, my interest in Studebakers started about two
years ago when I found some old negatives of my mom
and dad that had fallen back behind a drawer in an old
desk my parents owned. After my dad returned from
WWII, he sold Studebakers at his fathers' Studebaker
dealership in the Los Angeles area (I think it may
have been in Alhambra or possibly Pasadena). He met
my mom when the dealership supplied a Studebaker
convertible for a parade my mom was participating in
Alhambra, and she ended up riding in the Studebaker
(see 1st photo. My mom is the blonde and you can see
my grandfather's dealership name on the side of the
car). When they married, of course they left on their
honeymoon in a Studebaker (see 2nd & 3rd photos). The
next photo is of my mom in the 1949 Miss California
Pageant held in Santa Cruz, CA (she finished third!).
No Studebaker in this picture, but it's a nice shot of
my mom.

I had forgotten all about these past ties to
Studebaker until I found the negatives, as my mom
passed away in 1976 and my dad a little after that.
However, finding the negatives sparked my interest in
Studebakers so I started looking into them. I decided
I wanted a Hawk because that was my earliest memory of
a Studebaker when I was about 6 or 7 (I was born in
1951) and I really liked their style. I now own a 1957
Silver Hawk with a 185 flathead. It seems to run very
well however, the engine blows smoke out the exhaust
so I don't really drive it much until I can afford to
find out what's wrong (unfortunately I don't really
know how to work on cars although I'm trying to
learn).

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoStudeinparade.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoMomDadlooking.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoMomDadbycar.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/BillAdamsphotoMom.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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Roscomacaw
12-08-2006, 02:27 PM
I found an old photo of my beloved 55 President State that I owned for some time in the mid-70s. This flat-windshield edition was a real sweetheart of a car.[:X]

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/8/DSC00036.JPG

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-08-2006, 02:27 PM
I found an old photo of my beloved 55 President State that I owned for some time in the mid-70s. This flat-windshield edition was a real sweetheart of a car.[:X]

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/8/DSC00036.JPG

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-08-2006, 02:32 PM
Mark, only Land Cruisers and Convertibles had the one-piece WS thru 1950. In 51 & 52, all cars got the one-piece WS.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-08-2006, 02:32 PM
Mark, only Land Cruisers and Convertibles had the one-piece WS thru 1950. In 51 & 52, all cars got the one-piece WS.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

studegary
12-10-2006, 01:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Mark, only Land Cruisers and Convertibles had the one-piece WS thru 1950. In 51 & 52, all cars got the one-piece WS.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle


Bob/MrBiggs - Is my memory slipping (I didn't look it up.)? Didn't '47-'49 five passenger coupes/Starlights utilize a one piece windshield?

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
12-10-2006, 01:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Mark, only Land Cruisers and Convertibles had the one-piece WS thru 1950. In 51 & 52, all cars got the one-piece WS.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle


Bob/MrBiggs - Is my memory slipping (I didn't look it up.)? Didn't '47-'49 five passenger coupes/Starlights utilize a one piece windshield?

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

lstude
12-10-2006, 02:19 PM
quote:Bob/MrBiggs - Is my memory slipping (I didn't look it up.)? Didn't '47-'49 five passenger coupes/Starlights utilize a one piece windshield?

Gary L.

Quoting from the book, "Studebaker, The Complete Story" by William Cannon and Fred Fox, under the section about the 47s, they said: "The convertibles, five-passenger coupes and Land Cruiser all featured a one-piece slightly curved front windshield, while all the other body styles came with a two piece flat section windshield. Studebaker's curved windshield, although not a first for the industry, had been originally introduced on the Spring, 1941 Sedan-Coupe models".
Below is a picture of Richard Quinn's 41 President coupe with a one piece windshield.
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Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-10-2006, 02:19 PM
quote:Bob/MrBiggs - Is my memory slipping (I didn't look it up.)? Didn't '47-'49 five passenger coupes/Starlights utilize a one piece windshield?

Gary L.

Quoting from the book, "Studebaker, The Complete Story" by William Cannon and Fred Fox, under the section about the 47s, they said: "The convertibles, five-passenger coupes and Land Cruiser all featured a one-piece slightly curved front windshield, while all the other body styles came with a two piece flat section windshield. Studebaker's curved windshield, although not a first for the industry, had been originally introduced on the Spring, 1941 Sedan-Coupe models".
Below is a picture of Richard Quinn's 41 President coupe with a one piece windshield.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/RichardQuinns41coupe.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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Roscomacaw
12-10-2006, 07:30 PM
Yup! I forgot about the Starlight coupes! The W, F & Q bodies had 2-piece glass whereas the Y, C & S bodies got the 1-piece. This was thru 1950. After that, they all had the 1-piece.

When you stop to think about it, ya hafta wonder if it was a savings manuver or what - that made them keep using the 2-piece glass on only SOME of the cars. It wasn't really tied to the trim levels and you'd think the cost of the center divider pieces would offset the minor cost of a piece of bent glass!
I've heard that that 41-42 model that used the 1-piece glass used the same, exact piece of glass that the postwar ones did. NAGS # WW-45. I'll bet Kurtruk can tell us!;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
12-10-2006, 07:30 PM
Yup! I forgot about the Starlight coupes! The W, F & Q bodies had 2-piece glass whereas the Y, C & S bodies got the 1-piece. This was thru 1950. After that, they all had the 1-piece.

When you stop to think about it, ya hafta wonder if it was a savings manuver or what - that made them keep using the 2-piece glass on only SOME of the cars. It wasn't really tied to the trim levels and you'd think the cost of the center divider pieces would offset the minor cost of a piece of bent glass!
I've heard that that 41-42 model that used the 1-piece glass used the same, exact piece of glass that the postwar ones did. NAGS # WW-45. I'll bet Kurtruk can tell us!;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

lstude
12-11-2006, 06:50 PM
Here is the ad for my 62 GT Hawk when I bought it in 1965. I thought that was a lot of money!

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lstude
12-11-2006, 06:50 PM
Here is the ad for my 62 GT Hawk when I bought it in 1965. I thought that was a lot of money!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/My62GTHawkadcrop.jpg


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64V-K7
12-12-2006, 07:29 AM
Hey Leonard,
I just saw your post about Bill Adams.. Quite interesting, in that, years ago, he emailed me the exact same pictures and story.
He also was pinging on me to help him find out what was wrong with the 57 Hawk. There was also a Lark involved in the story, something about being available. It had a V8 and he wanted to take all the V8 stuff and put it in the Hawk. Through many emails, I was advising him on the pitfalls of trying this, especially when he was having someone else do the work..
After a while he appeared to get somewhat irritated because I couldn't agree with him on a couple points. So the emails stopped.
Dad! I'm hoping Bill is still ok. He had some disability, which I can't remember...

64V-K7
12-12-2006, 07:29 AM
Hey Leonard,
I just saw your post about Bill Adams.. Quite interesting, in that, years ago, he emailed me the exact same pictures and story.
He also was pinging on me to help him find out what was wrong with the 57 Hawk. There was also a Lark involved in the story, something about being available. It had a V8 and he wanted to take all the V8 stuff and put it in the Hawk. Through many emails, I was advising him on the pitfalls of trying this, especially when he was having someone else do the work..
After a while he appeared to get somewhat irritated because I couldn't agree with him on a couple points. So the emails stopped.
Dad! I'm hoping Bill is still ok. He had some disability, which I can't remember...

lstude
12-12-2006, 11:09 AM
Hello Bob,

I received this email from Bill Adams recently:

Hi Leonard,

Thanks for thinking of me when you saw Roger Adams in
the Studebaker article. Unfortunately, no relation.
I basically have no information of my grandfather's
dealership, so if you ever see anything else, please
send it my way.

Thanks,
Bill

If anyone knows anything about the Adams Studebaker dealership in the Los Angeles area, please post it.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
12-12-2006, 11:09 AM
Hello Bob,

I received this email from Bill Adams recently:

Hi Leonard,

Thanks for thinking of me when you saw Roger Adams in
the Studebaker article. Unfortunately, no relation.
I basically have no information of my grandfather's
dealership, so if you ever see anything else, please
send it my way.

Thanks,
Bill

If anyone knows anything about the Adams Studebaker dealership in the Los Angeles area, please post it.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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