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ralt12
12-01-2006, 12:18 PM
In replacing the weatherstrip on the rear quarterwindows of a '53 Commander Coupe I have managed the miracle of removing the window without breaking it. I have new weatherstrip, but my question is--before I attempt the truly impossible task of reinstallation-- is any adhesive or sealer used here?

'53 Commander

Roscomacaw
12-01-2006, 12:44 PM
No, that thing - fitted right - shouldn't need any sealant or glue.:D

Miscreant adrift in
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

ralt12
12-01-2006, 12:52 PM
Thanks--I shall attempt the impossible now...

'53 Commander

Roscomacaw
12-01-2006, 01:13 PM
I recently did it. You did grind the rivets and removed the glass pane and it's frame?

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

N8N
12-01-2006, 01:44 PM
I believe per the shop manual there should be some dum-dum applied to the body where the rubber meets it when you install the frame back in the car. I might be tempted to use silicone today, however. I haven't done mine yet as I need to fix a few screw holes before permanently mounting my windows.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
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rockne10
12-01-2006, 08:52 PM
My 53 had a bead of dum-dum around the inside of the outer skin, where you would expect the best possibility of moisture entry. Based on my experience, I would stick with the dum-dum, rather than silicone. Dum-dum was also used around the windshield and backlight openings before installing. I've never had leakproof success with silicone. I also thought about urethane but, you'd never be able to remove them again.

It's also used for rear fender installation and a myriad of other applications. It not only works great, it's period correct.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

kurtruk
12-01-2006, 11:18 PM
Auto glass shops never use silicone. If you find one that does...Run away fast--very fast!

KURTRUK
(read it backwards;))

valleyguy
12-02-2006, 08:41 AM
ok, "dum" question; what is "dum-dum"; Never heard of it.
Whatever it is I'll need it soon when I reinstall my quarter windows. I believe it is necessary to get the headliner in before installing the auarter wiindow, correct? tks,

hank63
12-02-2006, 10:07 AM
There are occasions when a little silicon sealant comes in supremely handy. I have been told to always use the "neutral cure" type to avoid problems under rubber seals.
Something to do with acid forming if wrong silicon is used.
Anyway, that's what I've been told by a w/screen mob. And I have used silicon sealant around leaky w/screens, where the black goo didn't seal all that long due to body flexing. The silicon sealed OK, but was difficult to apply without looking "wrong". The black goo is easier, but messier. Lots of rags and some turps and some really dirty fingers in the end.
/H

rockne10
12-02-2006, 10:23 AM
Oldtimers call it dum-dum and the Studebaker shop manual calls it dum-dum. Today's parts stores know it as ribbon calk or strip calk. 3M part #051135-08578 is black. Other colors are available. The first time I went in to the parts store and asked for dum-dum, the guy behind the counter thought I was asking for the manager.:D

And, yes, on the headliner installation.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

ralt12
12-02-2006, 10:53 AM
This was regarding replacing the glass in its frame, which is a necessary prelude to putting the quarter window back in its rightful place on the car. Replacing the weatherstrip on the glass itself is quite a challenge.

'53 Commander