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bams50
01-01-2009, 10:10 PM
Claims to have been taken by a worker. Mighjt be a good one for you collectors.

I'm lookin at YOU, Leonard!:D

http://tinyurl.com/8ubv6q


Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

Studebaker Wheel
01-02-2009, 04:46 AM
I have that shot in my collection. Here is another interesting Avanti photo now on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=310112157138

A very reliable seller! Bid early and often!

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

lstude
01-02-2009, 06:49 AM
I have lots of pictures of Avanti II production. Here is the link:

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/561351287DGrCqN

I like Richard's picture better. :)

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/MyStudebakernobackgroundsm.jpg

BobPalma
01-02-2009, 06:57 AM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

I have that shot in my collection. Here is another interesting Avanti photo now on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=310112157138


Richard Quinn


:) Dick: Are you able to read the license plate number/configuration on the back of that Avanti? If so, what does it say? :DBP

ClaymoreWW
01-02-2009, 07:20 AM
There looks to be no license plate to me.

--george

1963 Lark Daytona HT - 63V J8 175
53-54 C/Ks, 55 Speedsters, 63 Daytonas, Wagonaires Registries (http://www.teamwetworks.com/stregs/)

http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/larkkey.jpg

BobPalma
01-02-2009, 07:25 AM
quote:Originally posted by ClaymoreWW

There looks to be no license plate to me.

--george



:) Right, George; there may not even be a plate on the car.

I was just curious to know if it was carrying one of Studebaker's Manufacturer Plates and if so, what number. It may also have had a special "500" plate, but I don't believe they were issuing those in 1962. Today, they have legal, special plates for 500 Festival-assigned cars. :DBP

8E45E
01-02-2009, 07:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Claims to have been taken by a worker. Mighjt be a good one for you collectors.


That same picture is also on page 11 in The Studebaker Century
by Asa Hall/Richard Langworth.

Craig

billmdonn
01-02-2009, 03:03 PM
Great photos of the 1971 international meet. 37 years ago, I have to think you could pick up cars and parts for a song. Wait a minute, I was making only $6800 a year. I guess everything is relative.

"I know nothing"

Sargent Schultz

PlainBrownR2
01-02-2009, 07:17 PM
Dunno the age of the photo but........

The humor of the description of the photo, as far as the burgeoning automation of assembly line production, is GM(from what I gather had the first robotics in automobile production) didn't receive the first Unimat until about 1962.

If this is the case, this gives a great idea of the mindset of the American worker at the time(very few would know of this device that would take over automobile production years later).

[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left][img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000145-1.jpg[/img=left][IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=right]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201964%20Studebaker%20Commander%20R2/P1010168.jpg[/IMG=right]

Studebaker Wheel
01-02-2009, 07:52 PM
Bob; The plate (some call it a tag) on the Avanti next to Borg Warner trophy at Indy is 997M41. What is your interpretation?

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

BobPalma
01-02-2009, 09:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Bob; The plate (some call it a tag) on the Avanti next to Borg Warner trophy at Indy is 997M41. What is your interpretation?

Richard Quinn


:) There was a girl from near South Bend on the forum a couple months ago who had a clearer memory of Indiana Dealer Plate usage back then, but I believe the following would still be correct. (To clarify; the following is not the system used today in Indiana, although it's similar.)

The three numerical digits (997) before the upper-case M indicate it is the plate of a new-car dealer. A retail used-car dealer would have 4-digits, up to a certain number; I'm not sure what it was back then. (Higher four-digit numbers, those begining in the 7000 range up to 9999, were reserved for Wholesale Dealers, Transport Plates, Transfer Plates, etc.)

M means it is a dealer plate.

The digits after the M (in this case, 41) indicate that dealer's plate number within the dealership. 41 is a relatively high number; few dealers need that many plates. So 41 means it would be a larger dealer, with at least 41 plates running around the dealership on demos, etc. (A smaller used-car dealer, for example, might have only 6 or 8 plates. But some larger dealers have more than 41, too.)

That said, it seems like I've seen 997 on many Studebakers through the years. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it was a permanent new-car dealer plate assigned to the corporation as a Manufacturer's Plate. We now have separate Manufacturer's Plates in Indiana, but I don't believe they existed as such back then.

Further clarificatiion would be welcome from other forum posters. :DBP

8E45E
01-02-2009, 11:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

That said, it seems like I've seen 997 on many Studebakers through the years. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it was a permanent new-car dealer plate assigned to the corporation as a Manufacturer's Plate. We now have separate Manufacturer's Plates in Indiana, but I don't believe they existed as such back then.


I know International Havester/Navistar has been building trucks in Fort Wayne before Studebaker ceased operations in South Bend. Therefore, they also would have had 'manufacturer's' plates as well. I wonder if there are any factory photos of International Travelalls, Scouts, etc. outside the Fort Wayne plant from the late 1960's and '70's to confirm what they would have had for licence plates. And did Studebaker Corp transfer a few of those 'mfr' plates to Avanti Motor Corp in 1964? Or did they have to apply for their own new set(s)?
Craig

fstst56
01-02-2009, 11:47 PM
I would think it was a manufacturer's plate, as no production
Avantis had yet been built. Yes???