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turbostude
12-27-2008, 09:42 AM
Still up in the air about what engine to put in the Salt2Salt car for next august. We have been offered a highly modified supercharged Packard V8. If we run it ,it will likely become the world's fastest Packard V8. Of course, the first Golden Hawks had these and Paxton even made a supercharger kit.
http://www.1956goldenhawk.com/superchg.htm

I need to see how it was done. Anybody have pics of the motor mounts (or better...the actual items that I could buy or copy). Need to look at clearances with the frame, how the exhaust worked around the steering gear and what changes happened around the firewall. What kind of clearance issues occurred near the front of the hood, and is there room for a 53' hood without too much cutting. What about the suspension? Any help appreciated. It would be really great to be able to look at a car if there were one in Minnesota.....anyone listening?
Thanks


Greg
http://Salt2Salt.com
http://Turbostude.com
http://turbostude.com/Tribaker (LP three-wheeler project)

Chris Pile
12-27-2008, 10:11 AM
Guess you're gonna be a trend setter....

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special

N8N
12-27-2008, 10:46 AM
Don't have pics but get you a '56 parts book and that'll help somewhat. Motor mounts are obviously unique, and you really need to find some 56J ones and then have them recast - I don't believe new ones are available... the driver's side exhaust had a cute little cast iron S-bend to get around the steering linkage. There were no firewall mods but the fan shroud is unique as the PAckard is a lot longer than a Stude. I don't really think it will work with a 55 hood due to the size of the engine, but feel free to try it and prove me wrong, I am just guessing here.

nate

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turbostude
12-27-2008, 11:34 AM
I think I can find the 56 parts book. Probably be able to fabricate something out of steel plate for motor mounts, but I'd like to know where exactly, the Packard motor lived in that engine bay.....

Greg
http://Salt2Salt.com
http://Turbostude.com
http://turbostude.com/Tribaker (LP three-wheeler project)

bob40
12-27-2008, 12:27 PM
Call me,Greg.I just sold the motor mounts but
still have the frame sitting in the back yard.
You can get a pretty good look at where they were.

satdoc2
12-27-2008, 02:11 PM
I installed a 374 Packard w/dual 4 brls in a 54 Champion Coupe went I was 19 yrs. old. That was 49 years ago, so I can't remember how I modified the mounts.
Allen

sals54
12-27-2008, 02:52 PM
Allen, C'mon man, get the ginko biloba going and try to retrieve that memory. A world record may depend on it. JK

sals54
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fstst56
12-27-2008, 06:27 PM
If you need any NOS parts for that Packard V8, There's a guy in
Franklin, Indiana that I have found to be a good source. I think
his name is Max Merrit. I believe he usually has an ad in Hemmings.

shifter4
12-27-2008, 07:04 PM
I have both Stude and Packard mounts. I'll get some measurements tomorrow for comparo. I set a Packard in my car a few years ago (a '55) and the front of the engine is well ahead of the Stude. Its a Big Boy.
Go for it.

turbostude
12-28-2008, 01:20 AM
Thanks for the tips guys!
Sunday pm I've got a date to take pics and measurements on two 56J's. I ran electric water pumps on the Salt2Salt car when we raced the six. I have seen a number of cars with bigger engines using them, and expect that a longer engine like the Packard could use them as well. It sounds like there are plenty of Bourke bodied cars with radiators and standard water pumps out there that we can emulate...Shifter4, did you do anything to the front springs?
Stay warm and dry everyone!

Greg
http://Salt2Salt.com
http://Turbostude.com
http://turbostude.com/Tribaker (LP three-wheeler project)

anotherph
07-08-2013, 08:23 PM
anyone know where to find the records for the fastest packard?? who did it when the record was set etc.. seems that searching the internet for such info is pretty difficult.. i go to bonneville a lot and have a few projects in mind but need more info.. thanks in advance..

PackardV8
07-08-2013, 11:44 PM
Records aren't kept by engine manufacturer, just by displacement and type. Rich Fox's Vega with a Packard V8 ran 155 MPH. That's the fastest I've seen recorded.

FWIW, I've got that Hilborn injected engine here now.

Obviously, since they came that way, the Packard V8 with water pump fits fine in any C/K using the OEM mounts and radiator. Nothing extra required.

jack vines

GThawkwind
07-09-2013, 12:12 AM
I installed a 374 Packard w/dual 4 brls in a 54 Champion Coupe went I was 19 yrs. old. That was 49 years ago, so I can't remember how I modified the mounts.
Allen
But can you remember how well the hood cleared?

PackardV8
07-09-2013, 10:34 AM
The Packard V8 fits tightly but well in a C/K and the hood clears the 2x4 fine with Corvette/R4/aftermarket air filters. The OEM Packard Caribbean air filter will not clear a C/K hood.

The Caribbean 2x4 air cleaner fits fine under a C-cab or Lark hood, it's the engine which doesn't. The Packard V8 is 4" longer than a Studebaker V8. The space is there on a C/K; just not there on a C-cab or Lark. On my C-cab with AC, the Packard V8 required a custom radiator in front of the core support and the passengers side of the firewall moved back in the cylinder head area.

jack vines