In another thread (http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...TOPIC_ID=24387) Mr Bob Palma offered up this information :
Now I am quite sure that this has been explained to death (and some are justifiably tired of the subject), but I'd like to ask a few more questions - and I may not be the only one who wants to learn all the gory details.
I understand everything you have said, Bob, but let me see if I understnad the broader implications. My cowl tag says: 63V J8 175 and as I understand it it tells me the year, the engine (cylinders), the body style, the trim level and the sequenced body number (starting at 101). So my car is a 1963 (Lark) V8, Hardtop, Daytona, #75.
My first inquiry is: this means it is the 75th of that engine/body/trim combo - so that means that in the back of the warehouse where the bodies were stored pre-production that they already had the engine and trim assigned? That seems a little strange to me - various pockets of body/engine/trim levels awaiting assembly - rather than body styles separated and then engines and trim assigned later.
The second area of question is in regards to how to identify which number off the line a particular car is. My Serial Number is 63V 2096. Does this mean it is within the first 2,000 of all 63 (Lark) V8s? Is there any way to tell how a particular car fell within ALL models and engines - all Hawks, Larks, Avantis, trucks (were they built at the same plant?) V8s and straight 6s?
Before some fall into the "geez, what does it matter!" frame of mind; I am a data geek - a few months ago, I asked Bob why no one had logged all build sheets into a database for ease of research!
Lastly, I appreciate any time spent explaining and discussing.
--george
1963 Lark Daytona HT - 63V J8 175
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma
[:0] Easy, Gordon; F2 would be a cheapie 1963 Lark Standard. Your 1963 Lark Custom is an F6 regardless of engine, because the digit 6 indicates trim level, not engine.
Look at the stamped metal cowl tag under your car's hood, right above where the passenger's toes would be pointing when they were seated. If your car is a six cylinder, the top line of the tag should read 63S-F6.
Below that will be the sequential body number of where your car's body was among all the 1963 six-cylinder Lark Custom 2-door bodies built, beginning with 101. For example, if the number below 63S-F6 is 286, it means your car's body was the 186th (starts at 101, remember) 1963 Lark Custom Six 2-door body built.
However, it doesn't mean it was exactly the 186th 1963 Lark Custom 6 2-door to have been manufactured. Bodies were chosen at random for the production line, so it could have been used for the 173rd car built...or maybe the 188th. All you know is it's the 186th body built. It could be the 186th 1963 Lark Custom Six 2-door manufactured, but not necessarily. BP
quote:Originally posted by laughinlark
Like Bob mentioned it is a Custom model. It was originally a 6 cyl so its a F2. I don't have the production order yet but it is a radio delete car with the Custom trim.[?] Gordon
Like Bob mentioned it is a Custom model. It was originally a 6 cyl so its a F2. I don't have the production order yet but it is a radio delete car with the Custom trim.[?] Gordon
Look at the stamped metal cowl tag under your car's hood, right above where the passenger's toes would be pointing when they were seated. If your car is a six cylinder, the top line of the tag should read 63S-F6.
Below that will be the sequential body number of where your car's body was among all the 1963 six-cylinder Lark Custom 2-door bodies built, beginning with 101. For example, if the number below 63S-F6 is 286, it means your car's body was the 186th (starts at 101, remember) 1963 Lark Custom Six 2-door body built.
However, it doesn't mean it was exactly the 186th 1963 Lark Custom 6 2-door to have been manufactured. Bodies were chosen at random for the production line, so it could have been used for the 173rd car built...or maybe the 188th. All you know is it's the 186th body built. It could be the 186th 1963 Lark Custom Six 2-door manufactured, but not necessarily. BP
I understand everything you have said, Bob, but let me see if I understnad the broader implications. My cowl tag says: 63V J8 175 and as I understand it it tells me the year, the engine (cylinders), the body style, the trim level and the sequenced body number (starting at 101). So my car is a 1963 (Lark) V8, Hardtop, Daytona, #75.
My first inquiry is: this means it is the 75th of that engine/body/trim combo - so that means that in the back of the warehouse where the bodies were stored pre-production that they already had the engine and trim assigned? That seems a little strange to me - various pockets of body/engine/trim levels awaiting assembly - rather than body styles separated and then engines and trim assigned later.
The second area of question is in regards to how to identify which number off the line a particular car is. My Serial Number is 63V 2096. Does this mean it is within the first 2,000 of all 63 (Lark) V8s? Is there any way to tell how a particular car fell within ALL models and engines - all Hawks, Larks, Avantis, trucks (were they built at the same plant?) V8s and straight 6s?
Before some fall into the "geez, what does it matter!" frame of mind; I am a data geek - a few months ago, I asked Bob why no one had logged all build sheets into a database for ease of research!
Lastly, I appreciate any time spent explaining and discussing.
--george
1963 Lark Daytona HT - 63V J8 175
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