identification

[hawk gt 62 rhd]

Hello to all,
A new stude friend in Belgium is struggling with his engine,and I am trying to help him out.
Because there is only a serial/chassis nr G138279 I 'll like to hear from you :what car is this?
I dont know him personelly,but I think his english is not that well,specially in the technical talk.
Dick Waterreus

[Tom Bredehoft]

Dick, that number, G138297 is from an early '57 Champion. It would have a flat head six cylinder motor. Beyond that, we need the numbers on the body tag, right side front of dash/firewall to tell the model, trim level, etc. No number on the body will tell us the transmission or rear axle ratio.

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Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe (since 1959)
'55 President (6H Y6) State Sedan
(Under Construction 564 hrs.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

[hawk gt 62 rhd]

Thanks so far Tom ,the rest will follow soon
Dick

[hawk gt 62 rhd]

ok here is more info,
we found DF70422 and 57G and W
Dick Waterreus

[studegary]

I believe that it is a 1957 sedan that originally came with a six cylinder engine.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

[StudeDave57]

quote:Originally posted by hawk gt 62 rhd

ok here is more info, we found DF70422 and 57G and W
Dick Waterreus

The s/n in your first post sounded like a Champion.
Now we know that it is~

57G = Champion
W = 4 door sedan

I wonder what that other stuff is you found.
Where on the car did you find it?


StudeDave '57 [8D]
San Diego, Ca. (for now...)
San Diego County SDC

https://www.studebakersandiego.com

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Part owner of the one and only
'55 PROTOTYPE panel van

[Roscomacaw]

57G would be a car with the 165 cubic inch flathead 6. It COULD BE a Hawk, but if that "W" you found was on the frontside of the firewall, that would indicate a 4-door sedan. There should be a number after that W, which would define the trim level of that particular 4-door.

The DF70422 isn't something that Studebaker would've used, tho it might be a model identification subsequently assigned the car if it had been assembled in the Netherlands.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

[Roscomacaw]

By the way, what sort of "struggling" is he dealing with?

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

[rkapteyn]

Studebaker did not have a plant in The Netherlands (aka. Holland).
Studebakers were assembled by D'Ieteren in Belgium.
I believe they built Studebakers from their parts inventories and also assembled T.K.D. (totally knocked down)
shipped from the U.S. in crates.
Interesting history at:

http://www.henokiens.com/index_dieteren_gb.php

[hawk gt 62 rhd]

Thanks so far,
Now I know there three 6L engines the 169ci the 185 ci and an other with a different cil head ,OHV....?ci
How can i see/know the diff. to 169 and 185
In the book of the Hawks there two fotos a V8 and a 6L and it says that in 1959 the 185 was made smaller to get the 169.
Maybe some parts are the same or am I wrong?

For mr. Biggs ,this far the thing I know was engine trouble.
Peter de Clercq asked for an engine and parts manual .
But first you must know the car and engine.

I only have these from 1959 to 1964 for my own
Hawk GT

Dick Waterreus