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JLasvegas
11-22-2008, 08:07 PM
I was wondering if its common, but when im sitting at a light with foot on the brake and go to take off, the car seems to be lagging for about a 2 count and then finally get up to speed and wanna take off, if I let it coast a second with foot off brake, it seems to be fine.
wasnt sure if this was common with the flight O matic's or if its a timing issue with the distributor. It seems to shift fine when driving, except no down shift, im also wondering if it could be the linkage adjustment and if so, where would I find a picture of proper linkage



thank for any advice


vehicle is a 1964 daytona wagonaire 259cid flight o matic trans
factory ignition

Dick Steinkamp
11-22-2008, 09:02 PM
The first problem could be the accelerator pump in the carb. With the engine off and the air cleaner off, take a look down the carb throat while you move the throttle linkage. You should get a nice squirt of fuel into each carb barrel. If not, the carb probably needs to be rebuilt.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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JLasvegas
11-22-2008, 09:40 PM
Forgot to mention, I just had a shop rebuild the carb and they put on an electric choke

Dick Steinkamp
11-22-2008, 11:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by JLasvegas

Forgot to mention, I just had a shop rebuild the carb


Did you have the problem before the shop rebuilt the carb?

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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JLasvegas
11-22-2008, 11:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by JLasvegas

Forgot to mention, I just had a shop rebuild the carb


Did you have the problem before the shop rebuilt the carb?

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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I did, it was actually worse, it would die instantly when put into gear, now when accelerating once rolling its very nice

If im in gear and have my foot on the brake, and give it some gas it will want to die until I let off the gas
not sure if thats vacuum advance, but there is play in the throttle linkage

buddymander
11-23-2008, 01:15 PM
Sounds like the trans isn't immediately downshifting to low at a stop. OR msybe your brakes are dragging. Could be the master cylinder plunger isn't springing back quick enough. Maybe there's some crud built up in it. Better take care of that linkage adjustment first; that might fix it. Have you checked your fluid level correctly?

JLasvegas
11-23-2008, 02:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by buddymander

Sounds like the trans isn't immediately downshifting to low at a stop. OR msybe your brakes are dragging. Could be the master cylinder plunger isn't springing back quick enough. Maybe there's some crud built up in it. Better take care of that linkage adjustment first; that might fix it. Have you checked your fluid level correctly?
I had some tires put on it yesterday and when they took the wheels off I was allowed to walk in the shop and check the brakes out, everything was dry and in good working order, it stops very nicely

buddymander
11-23-2008, 02:26 PM
A sticking master cylinder piston wouldn't cause a leak, or even a decrease in brake effectiveness. Your pedal would return from the return spring, but the piston could still be slightly depressed.

avantilover
11-23-2008, 02:56 PM
Perhaps the Flightomatic needs servicing. I had mine done and they adjusted the shift interval I suppose you'd call it, much firmer shifts now.

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JLasvegas
11-23-2008, 03:43 PM
you guys nailed it. SLOPPY LINKAGE
I went and purchased some new springs and installed them like I have seen in various pics on this site " old spring was worn and hooked up wrong" well after doing the springs it goes into gear very nicely and doesnt want to die when I power brake it a little or go to take off from a stop
now the ends where they snap onto the ball are worn and I had to tie wrap them for the time being but I checked it out and its not binding or twisting. So now the hunt for that linkage begins

Roscomacaw
11-23-2008, 06:36 PM
You've lost me! What linkage??? What "ball"???[B)]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Dick Steinkamp
11-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Sounds to me like you "fixed" it so it doesn't quite return to the idle stop and is idling faster than what it was before the "fix".

Make sure the throttle lever at the carb is coming up against the screw that adjusts the idle speed. If it isn't, you have the springs/linkage/tie wraps hanging up. Hook it up correctly, then adjust the idle speed up to spec.

Mr. Biggs suggestion on linkage had to do with the timing of the accelerator pump...not with the basic throttle linkage.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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JLasvegas
11-23-2008, 08:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

You've lost me! What linkage??? What "ball"???[B)]

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door


the arm that comes off of the throttle lever and connects to the carb, on mine its connected via a press on ball onto a socket type of connection