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bams50
10-28-2008, 06:10 AM
This car could almost get me off Larks! (I said "almost";)). Yes, I know it's not correct, has flaws, odd engine choice, starting bid too high, etc. etc. but I love the color, and LOVE those wheels![:p] And I'm not always a big fan...:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VERY-RARE-1957-STUDEBAKER-SCOTTSMAN-ONLY-500-MADE_W0QQitemZ280280592274QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

ClaymoreWW
10-28-2008, 06:33 AM
I just saw that. Thought it was well done - except for the wheels ;) One of 500 made and one of two titled? That surprises me. But i like the red with the gray accents.

--george

1963 Lark Daytona HT - 63V J8 175
http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/larkkey.jpg

wpsrea
10-28-2008, 06:38 AM
I think he meant disc brakes front and back. Looks good. Loose the wheels.

BobPalma
10-28-2008, 06:50 AM
:) I'm sure there's a good reason why the RF fender spear is 6"-8" shorter than the LF fender spear, but I just don't know what it is...

Actually, I was trying to figure out if this was a real Scotsman, or just a Champion Custom with painted bumpers and light housings as part of the custom treatment. The cheapie recirculating-air heater box under the right side of the dash probably verifies it being a real Scotsman, since the body tag is not legible in the under-hood photos.

The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-1975 cites a model-year production figure of 2,943 1957 Studebaker Scotsman 2-doors (57G-F1) having been built, which sounds about right. The seller's statement that only 500 were made probably means they only made 500 before they built the remaining 2,493. (I knew there was an explanation...) :DBP

BobPalma
10-28-2008, 10:44 AM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude


quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) I'm sure there's a good reason why the RF fender spear is 6"-8" shorter than the LF fender spear, but I just don't know what it is...
Optical illusion?



:) I doubt it, Dave. Look at the RF 3/4 view. It seems pretty clear that the RF fender spear doesn't get anywhere near the front of the car, compared to the left side. Strange. :DBP

mbstude
10-28-2008, 11:04 AM
That's the same heater that's in my Scotsman pickup. I had always assumed it was aftermarket, it's not on the production order.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/quadraportle005.jpg

BobPalma
10-28-2008, 11:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

That's the same heater that's in my Scotsman pickup. I had always assumed it was aftermarket, it's not on the production order.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA



:) Matthew: Look on your truck's order for any extraneous codes. That heater was standard equipment on Scotsman cars, but I can't confirm it being standard on trucks. I'm willing to bet it was and if so, it obviously will not appear as an "option." :DBP

mbstude
10-28-2008, 12:09 PM
No mention of a heater at all, BP. As you can see, it was a bare bones truck.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/10-28-2008120209PM-1.jpg

What is L.M. SHORT MIRROR?

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/quadraportle005.jpg

StudeDave57
10-28-2008, 12:52 PM
Oh dear! I need to send these pictures to some folks I knew while I was in the NAVY- maybe they'll understand why I never went this route with Baby!!! It's true- they wanted me to but wagon wheels on her...

Very interesting points have been made about this car. Allow me to throw another one or two out there-
That dual exhaust system is a mess!!!
Weird that one side looks to have '56 trim, and the other has '57. Didn't used to (see below)
This car used to not look quite so bad- check the pics~ I think Leonard posted them once...


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w143/StudeDave/for%20the%20net/57sedanf.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w143/StudeDave/for%20the%20net/57sedan.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w143/StudeDave/for%20the%20net/57sedanf2.jpg

That's gotta be the same car- dig the hood orniment...



StudeDave '57 [8D]
San Diego, Ca. (for now...)
San Diego County SDC
www.studebakersandiego.com

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Part owner of the one and only
'55 PROTOTYPE panel van

BobPalma
10-28-2008, 02:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

No mention of a heater at all, BP. As you can see, it was a bare bones truck.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/10-28-2008120209PM-1.jpg

What is L.M. SHORT MIRROR?

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA



:) Does it have a left mirror of any type, Matthew; or can you see where one might have been?

Fred Fox' comprehensive article on 1958 and 1959 Scotsman pickups is in the December 1988 Turning Wheels. I just reread it twice.

The only mention of a heater is among the options, where the Climatizer heater/defroster is listed. An interior photo shows a Scotsman truck cab with Climatizer option heater/defroster, but there are no photos or references one way or another as to whether or not the cheaper Scotsman car-type recirculating heater was standard equipment. The only heater/defroster listed among the options is the higher-line Climatizer, so the cheap recirculating one may have been standard and Fred just didn't happen to reference it one way or another. :DBP

52-fan
10-28-2008, 03:04 PM
Usually I don't care for the 56-58 Studebaker sedans, but that one does look nice. If it had a decent set of wheels so it didn't look like it was set up for fording streams I would love it.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s186/52-fan/StudebakersofArkansas2-1.jpg
1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

Chris Pile
10-28-2008, 03:05 PM
"has been customized, but to be a driver" - you can tell the seller is NOT a Stude guy. And those wheels look ridiculous, otherwise - not bad. Change the motor back to a Stude if you like - you'll be catching glances at the next car show.

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special

bams50
10-28-2008, 03:46 PM
LOL! I can't believe I'm the only one that likes those wheels on there! To me, they make that car!

If it's the same car as in Dave's pix, I like it much more now. Only thing I'd do is lower it all around... of course, then there might be clearance issues.

No problem if none of you like the wheels... you're just all wrong!!:D

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

Steve T
10-28-2008, 04:05 PM
Bob--

Nope, we're not all wrong...I like the wheels too!:D That car would certainly spin a few heads round at M'view or Pier 4...

S.

showbizkid
10-28-2008, 04:59 PM
Nice job on the interior! But yeah, those wheels... not my first choice. I'd put on some Cragar S/S's. Fads come and go, but style remains :)


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com

StudeRich
10-28-2008, 05:34 PM
Nice looking car...except those :( :( WHEELS! [xx(]

I love the interior, all but the box heater, that needs to be replaced with a Climatizer! [:0]

If you look very closely at the two pics that show the Quarter window up close, you can see a cool mod they did, adding a shiny moulding AROUND the glass! It looks familiar, didn't a '49-'50 Ford have those? Something did! [^]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

Roscomacaw
10-28-2008, 05:49 PM
I think it's sharp for the most part. Wheels - [xx(] Gray wheel flare accents - [xx(] But the rest is pretty cool!:D

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

madmike
10-28-2008, 05:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by wpsrea

I think he meant disc brakes front and back. Looks good. Loose the wheels.

The "disc brakes" look to be fakes, covering up the drums. The rotors are way too shiny, and unless its' a never driven showcar, I don't think chrome rotors would be the best solution to getting the thing to stop.........ever. The wheels are fine, the car sits waay too high. Dude needs to lower that thing.

Don't talk about what you are going to do,... talk about what you have DONE.