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jpiatchek
11-18-2006, 08:55 PM
I went to OReilly Auto today to purchase a Hurst shifter for my 64 Daytona with a 4 speed. I think the transmission is a T10, but they did not have a listing for Studebaker. There were several different Ford part numbers for t10's, but I had no idea which one was correct. Anyone have any idea which shifter to order or a part number. They also showed the shifter and a kit. Can anyone help? Thanks

N8N
11-18-2006, 09:16 PM
the whole kit is 391-7308 which consists of shifter 391-5403 and stick 538-7236. The install kit, which you will need in addition to the above, is 373-4734. Unfortunately I ordered two of the latter part number and both came with an unusable (bent wrong) 1-2 shift rod, and Hurst basically told me over the phone that it is impossible that they could have been bent wrong, and they never replied to my detailed emails with an explanation of the difference between the older and newer versions of said rods and why the new ones wouldn't work. I still owe Lee D. a shift rod. I guess let me know if you get a new one that works and I will try again to order one.

nate

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jpiatchek
11-19-2006, 11:44 AM
Thanks for your reply. How did you get the shift rod to work? Can a rod from my current factory shifter be used? Do you know where I can get one if the Hurst rod doesn't work? Aprreciate your help.

N8N
11-19-2006, 12:13 PM
No, you can't use the factory rod, but if you have a big bench vice and BFH you can probably mod the new one to fit. I tried heating it with a torch and bending it; I've since been told that the alloy that Hurst uses for their shift rods needs to be bent cold otherwise ti will crack (which I have discovered the hard way.) If they haven't fixed the issue yet, I'm not sure where you can find one, short of someone having some old Hurst parts in a box.

nate

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BRUCESTUDE
11-20-2006, 12:03 AM
I have a '64 Daytona w/the 4 speed. What is the advantage of having the Hurst set up?
By the way, I love driving this car, it is a hardtop w/factory tach also. It has the 3:07 rear, but still is fun.

1956 Hawk
11-20-2006, 02:31 PM
I put a Hurst Super Shifter for a T10 in my Hawk. It is suppose to be a universal fit, but required a bit of work to get it in. I don't know where the shifter is suppose to be in the Lark, but in the Hawk the Shifter would be to far back.

The Hurst shifter is a hugh improvement on the factory setup. The Hurst shifter has half the distance between shifts. It's just all around tighter and smoother than factory.

David

Dick Steinkamp
11-20-2006, 06:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

trust me, if you drive a Stude with a Hurst, you will agree it is well worth the price and work. It actually shifts like a real shifter should.



Nate's correct (as usual [^]). I have the Hurst Competition Plus in my '54. Maybe the perfect shifter [8D]. Especially good with the this super short repoped '65 Corvette stalk and knob.

http://static.flickr.com/112/302328284_de5813b5fb.jpg

My Hurst is on a Corvette T-10 so fit perfectly.



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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

1956 Hawk
11-20-2006, 06:43 PM
What I was saying about the Super Shifter is that it is made to bolt to the rear bolt holes in the transmission as indicated in the picture below. I had to modify mine to bolt the front bolt holes so it would clear the bench seat. This might not be a problem in a Daytona with bucket seats.
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David

N8N
11-20-2006, 06:54 PM
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I have a '64 Daytona w/the 4 speed. What is the advantage of having the Hurst set up?

let's see... about half the throw on the shift lever, no rattling or buzzing as you drive, and no more missed shifts due to the humungous amount of slop in the factory shifter...

trust me, if you drive a Stude with a Hurst, you will agree it is well worth the price and work. It actually shifts like a real shifter should.

To 1956 Hawk: the numbers I gave were for a competition/plus, not a super shifter. I don't have any experience with those. The shifter comes up through the floor in the same place relative to the tailshaft in either body style.

nate

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N8N
11-20-2006, 07:55 PM
The Lark bodies' competition/plus mounts to the front holes as well. In fact, Hurst only lists a shifter for a C-K with bucket seats, but it can be used in a Lark type with bucket seats as well. With a bench seat you have to get a little creative with the shift lever. See here:

http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel/55coupe10.html

And Dick, I'd be blushing if I didn't know you were just saying that because I've said nice things about your car :) (yes, his interior does look a hell of a lot better than mine.)

Finally, a tech tip. When replacing the rear engine mount on a car with a T-10 and Hurst shifter, remove the fiberglass shift plate before jacking up the engine. The sound of the threads of the mount studs dragging on the holes in the crossmember will drown out the sounds of the fiberglass splintering. I know this guy that...

nate

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Jackson
11-20-2006, 08:30 PM
What about a 3913780 shifter (55, 56, 57 Chevy) and a 3734734 kit? Looks like it might clear the Lark bench seat.

jpiatchek
11-20-2006, 10:57 PM
The shifter is going in a 64 Daytona Conv with bucket seats. I also own a 64 Daytona 4speed hardtop with the 4speed Hurst shifter. I didn't ralize how sloppy the shifter in the conv was until I drove the hardtop with Hurst. Day and night difference bewtween the two. The factory shifter has a long way to go to be as enjoyable as the Hurst.

jpiatchek
11-20-2006, 11:08 PM
MBM-Would you recmmend the 538-6900 shift lever for a bucket seat car over what Hurst sends? Thanks

N8N
11-21-2006, 06:36 AM
I think the 538-6900 looks a little "rat fink" without shortening it, but it does locate the shifter more comfortably for the driver.

nate

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