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65cruiser
11-16-2006, 12:00 PM
Okay, so maybe six cylinder performance are are three words that shouldn't be used together, but...

I've been considering ways to get a little more oomph out of my six banger Cruiser. I don't want to do anything that can't be returned to stock, but have been toying with the idea of a new manifold and maybe some cast iron headers with dual exhausts. Anything that might help it breath a little better and give me a little more kick when getting on the interstate. I don't want no tire burning with my Dana 27, just a bit more driveability.

I've noticed there are a lot of speed parts available for these engines. So, I thought if Cathcart can fix up a Champion 6, why not a little Stovebolt.

Something like this:

http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/78/3e/d889_1.JPG

My question is, what would actually help? What would a 4-barrel do? What about 2, 1 barrel's, or I've even seen manifolds where you could install a Weber 2-barrel? I can get cast iron split headers for this engine also. Pertronix? Etc.?

More stuff here:

http://www.cliffordperformance.net/

Any recommendations or do I leave it alone?

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
11-16-2006, 12:01 PM
How about this.....

http://static.flickr.com/113/298850865_0b2e9b287e_o.jpg

...sounds like a hive of angry bees at full song [:p]

Actually, GM made that 7 main bearing 6 used in the 65 and 66 Studes up to 250 cubic inches, so you've almost got the cubes of a 259 Stude. It's a strong motor and lots of speed parts are available. Have at it![8D]

Correction...actually this motor was made up to 292 cubes!

http://static.flickr.com/100/292046667_cc1661ba0e_m.jpg

53k
11-16-2006, 07:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Okay, so maybe six cylinder performance are are three words that shouldn't be used together, but...

I've been considering ways to get a little more oomph out of my six banger Cruiser. I don't want to do anything that can't be returned to stock, but have been toying with the idea of a new manifold and maybe some cast iron headers with dual exhausts. Anything that might help it breath a little better and give me a little more kick when getting on the interstate. I don't want no tire burning with my Dana 27, just a bit more driveability.

I've noticed there are a lot of speed parts available for these engines. So, I thought if Cathcart can fix up a Champion 6, why not a little Stovebolt.

Something like this:

http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/78/3e/d889_1.JPG

My question is, what would actually help? What would a 4-barrel do? What about 2, 1 barrel's, or I've even seen manifolds where you could install a Weber 2-barrel? I can get cast iron split headers for this engine also. Pertronix? Etc.?

More stuff here:

http://www.cliffordperformance.net/

Any recommendations or do I leave it alone?

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser

My son's first car was (is) a '69 Camaro, 250 cid six with a three-speed floor shift. With nearly 200,000 miles on it he put on an Offenhouser manifold like your picture, "borrowed" one of my Lark AFBs, and installed headers. He could blow away 289 Mustangs with it.
Go for it.

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

shifter4
11-16-2006, 07:35 PM
Somebody ought to look at the feasibility of using one of the new
Chevy Trailblazer inline sixes in a Stude. Buy a wreck and get the engine
management and all. 270 HP and super MPG as well !

Dick Steinkamp
11-16-2006, 07:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by shifter4

Somebody ought to look at the feasibility of using one of the new
Chevy Trailblazer inline sixes in a Stude. Buy a wreck and get the engine
management and all. 270 HP and super MPG as well !



Already done...

http://static.flickr.com/99/299074116_658c7ef539.jpg

Bob and Mimi Halgren's bullet nose is all Trailblazer underneath and inside. Drop dead workmanship [:p]


http://static.flickr.com/100/292046667_cc1661ba0e_m.jpg

N8N
11-16-2006, 07:48 PM
IIRC the 292 was a raised deck version so you might want to check hood clearance before getting any evil ideas...

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
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Transtar60
11-16-2006, 09:10 PM
I have a 65 Commander with a 1971 GM truck 292 cid six and it fits under the hood. I got it and a 700r4 installed and running then got distracted by other projects.


3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc

CHAMP
11-17-2006, 08:20 AM
Hey Dick, That Starlight Coupe reminds me of the 60's Drag Racing cars when we would jack them way up for weight transfer. Back to the topic, a six can be made to run fast. It just depends on how much you want to spend. One bolt on item that comes to mind is high lift rocker arms.

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

65cruiser
11-17-2006, 11:29 AM
Okay, I'm really going to check into this. I don't want to do anything that couldn't be returned to stock, although I'm not sure why I would want to do that. The engine has about 70,000 on it now, so I'm not planning a rebuild anytime soon. But, a bolt on manifold and perhaps some headers with dual exhaust would be cool.

What size carb would I need for an install like this? Recommendations?

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
11-17-2006, 11:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser


What size carb would I need for an install like this? Recommendations?



Looks like in the 250-300 CFM range...

http://www.4secondsflat.com/Carb_CFM_Calculator.html

http://static.flickr.com/100/292046667_cc1661ba0e_m.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
11-17-2006, 03:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

Okay, I'm really going to check into this. I don't want to do anything that couldn't be returned to stock, although I'm not sure why I would want to do that.


Watch it, Mark...when you start coming over to the "dark side", it can be a slipery slope [}:)];)

(did you know a 454 Chevy big block will bolt right in to your car [}:)][8D])



http://static.flickr.com/100/292046667_cc1661ba0e_m.jpg

StudeDave
11-17-2006, 08:23 PM
I had two of those '65 sixes, and they PERFORMED really well, just as [WAS] - - but then my FOOT only weighs 85# - - the 20k mile one, we had for 23k miles, dotter used it for college, we ran it "all over" [two trips from Chgo to York, for instance], but the OTHER one hauled 23 sheets of drywall on the roof, for one job - took the rear seatback out, and a 6' ladder would fit, with the trunk shut! - - the ONLY thing i ever had to MODIFY was a Water Pump that needed the Fan Flange pressed about 3" farther back on the shaft, so it'd clear the Radiator! - - everything else WORKED, right from the corner parts store..... IN-destructible cars!