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johnesmonde
11-13-2006, 09:58 PM
I would like to replace the stock wheels and covers on my 62 Hawk with some fancier wheels. Rather than guess work, I wonder if others could post pictures of their cars with aftermarket wheels or wheels from other brands that have helped them dress up their cars. Actually seeing how they look and getting a description and size etc. would probably be of use to many and offer a chance to show off your cars. There was a discussion and pictures of newer Mustang wheels on an Avanti that gave me the idea. If not a picture, even a description, brand size etc would be helpful.

'Wheel-less John'

John Esmonde
Holland Landing, Ontario
Canada
'62 Hawk
'30 Chev Coach

Guido
11-13-2006, 10:01 PM
This is a set that I have on my '64. They are made by American Racing.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/32/33/9/69/64/2601969640097493054UmfokJ_th.jpg

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

JDP
11-13-2006, 10:14 PM
here's the American racing torque thrust D's on Hawk.
http://www.stude.com/Bermuda/Main2.jpg-.html

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
JDP
Arnold Md.
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64 Daytona HT
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62 Lark 2 door
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Dick Steinkamp
11-13-2006, 10:46 PM
http://static.flickr.com/51/133647426_e91c22a0f0.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/56/133848380_16c095be59.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/49/133845061_cda6f74e6c.jpg

Restored 1960's Crestline Mark II's made in Walnut Creek, CA

15 x 6 3" backspacing

205 70 15 tires front
215 75 15 rear

"Old School"

[8D]



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Dick Steinkamp
11-14-2006, 09:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by johnesmonde
Dick -- Where did you get the lazy S centrepiece?


Studebaker International...check page 30 of their catalog.

http://www.studebaker-intl.com/Resources/Part%202.pdf



http://static.flickr.com/100/292046667_cc1661ba0e_m.jpg

johnesmonde
11-14-2006, 09:14 AM
Nice pictures! Exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I'm currently running 215-75 all the way around with spacers on the front to clear the Turner disc calipers. JDP -- what would the width and backspace be on those wheels? Dick -- Where did you get the lazy S centrepiece? As my son would say, 'That's sweeeet!'.

John Esmonde
Holland Landing, Ontario
Canada
'62 Hawk
'30 Chev Coach

1956 Hawk
11-14-2006, 09:22 AM
Just so you know 255/60R15s will fit under a Hawk.
http://thumb2.webshots.net/t/60/160/3/37/65/2174337650089385702RYbvvP_th.jpg
http://rides.webshots.com/album/549732261OHKYVI
David

JDP
11-14-2006, 10:59 AM
N8 might remember, I'm not sure. I was thinking 6 inch, with 4 inch back spacing.( Might be 7 inches wide too)

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JDP
Arnold Md.
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64 Daytona HT
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62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 4E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

N8N
11-14-2006, 11:52 AM
7" with zero offset will just barely work on a C-K but you will be limited to a 215 or 225. For the widest tires/most fender clearance you really want something like 1/2" to 3/4" offset. Too much more than that and you will need spacers in the front to clear the tie rods.

nate

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showbizkid
11-14-2006, 01:57 PM
It's not a Hawk, but...

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/From%20the%20start/DSCN0400.jpg

Cragar S/S. Still available: www.cragar.com


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

Dick Steinkamp
11-14-2006, 02:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

Cragar S/S. Still available: www.cragar.com



Love those Cragars [:p]. They look great on everything [8D]

(VERY nice Lark, BTW!)



http://static.flickr.com/100/292046667_cc1661ba0e_m.jpg

Guido
11-14-2006, 04:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

It's not a Hawk, but...
Love the "modified" parking brake! :D:D:D Of course, with big trucks I have to use a 6x6 or a cinder block.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

N8N
11-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Now that I'm home from work...

http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel/55coupe7.html

that's my '55 coupe with MoPar cop car wheels on it (look at the rear of the car) and 245/60s - yes, they fit on the front, too, if you really want to do that. Steers a bit hard... I don't know that they would fit a Lark, but the OP asked about a Hawk...

nate

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showbizkid
11-14-2006, 05:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Love the "modified" parking brake! :D:D:D


One of those "little things" on the to-do list [:I]


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
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sbca96
11-15-2006, 03:11 AM
Also not a Hawk ...

http://www.emperorjordan.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Cobra_brake_breakin/cobra_brake_testdrive004a.jpg

17 x 8 with a 5.02 backspacing, needs at least a 1/4 spacer to fit the
front end on a Studebaker. Dont think they would look good on a Hawk.
Its possible that the AFS version of the Mach 1 Mustang wheel might do
well on a Hawk. Its similar to the ones posted. Boy, I just never
liked Cragars on anything. Shows how rim choice is a VERY personal
issue, and can only be decided by the owner. Good luck!

http://app.infopia.com/img/image/fp/vpid/2242770/extra/1

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

Transtar56
11-15-2006, 09:00 AM
Us car nuts are easy marks. I just put four steel wheels (look good,there silver) and big Kelly Snowtrackers with studs in them on my SUV yesterday,1200 bucks.
Bring on the snow!
Can't stand the sound of those new studs on bare pavement.

candbstudebakers
09-22-2009, 11:44 PM
Chuck is that a standard? looks like mine in away but color in yours is off white , mine is bright white. these wheels are from later Avanti, 84 I think.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/white%2063%20super%20lark/IM001064.jpg

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA
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hotrodstude
09-23-2009, 07:39 AM
chrome reverse the only way to go.

2006,f-150,2x4,v-6,5-speed manual,8ft bed, will post stude info when i get it on the road.

blackhawk61
09-23-2009, 08:42 AM
Kelsey-Hayes (Chrysler) 15 X 6

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/blackhawk61/TWCVRPICS1.jpg

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Ken Byrd
Lewisville,NC

mausersmth
09-23-2009, 01:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by blackhawk61

Kelsey-Hayes (Chrysler) 15 X 6

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/blackhawk61/TWCVRPICS1.jpg

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Ken Byrd
Lewisville,NC


Love the wires!

A. Charles Eck, Jr.
Essex, MD
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Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)

'64 Cruiser 'Louise'
'57 Commander 4 door sedan 'Bluebird'
'66 Ford F-250
'53 John Deere 50
'41 John Deere H All-Fuel
'41 John Deere B All-Fuel

HookedonStudies
09-23-2009, 04:41 PM
When I was selling aftermarket rims I would often tell people "the only one who has to like your wheels is you." It seemed like they always wanted me to love them as much as they did - and sometimes I did - other times it was ummm a bit of a challenge!

Pat Casey
55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser
SDC Member since 1983

Milaca
09-23-2009, 11:41 PM
I saw this 1962 Hawk at the Hugo Labor Day Studebaker promoted car show. I believe these are Cragar Star Wire wheels but am not sure if they are being produced anymore. As soon as I saw this car the wheels immediately caught my attention! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3949088559_7567e707c9.jpg

winchesterhawk
09-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Yes, Cragar is making the Starwires.

PeterHawk
09-25-2009, 07:13 AM
Here is another take on different wheels. These are from a Ford Gran Torino. The "GT" in the hubcap is meant to represent Gran Turismo.http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/PeterHawk63/DSC02133.jpg

jimmijim8
09-25-2009, 10:35 AM
quote:Originally posted by PeterHawk

Here is another take on different wheels. These are from a Ford Gran Torino. The "GT" in the hubcap is meant to represent Gran Turismo.http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/PeterHawk63/DSC02133.jpg
Nice touch. jimmijim

Stude Junkie+++++++Do it right the f$$$$ Time. Never mind. Just do it right. When youre done your done. You'll know it.

64V-K7
09-25-2009, 11:14 AM
Here's American Racing's version of the Halibrand "kidney Bean" wheels. They're steel and fairly low priced

http://www.studebaker-info.org/photos09/DYSD09/DSC03672.jpg

http://www.studebaker-info.org/7168422/sig2.jpghttp://www.studebaker-info.org/64v2488/sig3.jpghttp://www.studebaker-info.org/0381/sig4.jpg
Bob Johnstone
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64 GT Hawk
55 President State Sedan
70 Avanti (R3)

TedsHawk
09-25-2009, 09:57 PM
You guys need to make sure you are listing wheel dimensions and whether spacers are needed tire sizes...etc with the pics, ( I know some did) would make this post more helpful. I to am thinking of different wheels but would like to what is needed to fit not just what looks good.

1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

buddymander
09-26-2009, 01:35 PM
The word is "SPECIFICS", folks.

barnlark
09-26-2009, 07:38 PM
I thought the word was patience. ;) It's a three year old post.

Milaca
09-30-2009, 12:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

I saw this 1962 Hawk at the Hugo Labor Day Studebaker promoted car show. I believe these are Cragar Star Wire wheels but am not sure if they are being produced anymore. As soon as I saw this car the wheels immediately caught my attention! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3949088559_7567e707c9.jpg

I found another picture of this Hawk's wheels. The tire says 215/75/R15 and I recall that the owner told me that the rear tires nearly rub when there are passengers in the back seat. As for that, I have no more specifics. I do know that I really want them on my car!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2574/3969599328_4b3eacf736.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_m.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.

alpayed
09-30-2009, 05:32 PM
Hawks look good with wire wheels

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp82/alpayed/PB305310a.jpg

Allan

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp82/alpayed/Hawk_signature.jpg

Milaca
09-30-2009, 06:15 PM
Hawks look good with pretty women posing along side them also. [8D]
Although the concrete block wall kind of detracts from the image...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3970420846_01a1b66ee4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_m.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.

fmarshall
09-30-2009, 06:15 PM
Back in the day when I had my GT Hawk, I had chrome reverse wheels with baby moons. And it looked really, really sharp.

========================
63 Avanti R2, 4-Speed, 3.73 TT
Martinez, CA
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blackhawk61
09-30-2009, 10:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

Hawks look good with pretty women posing along side them also. [8D]
Although the concrete block wall kind of detracts from the image...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3970420846_01a1b66ee4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_m.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.


Yes indeed they do !

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/blackhawk61/Hooters1-1.jpg

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Ken Byrd
Lewisville,NC

Milaca
09-30-2009, 10:17 PM
Yes indeed they do !

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/blackhawk61/Hooters1-1.jpg



Wow, look at the curves on those beauties!! Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels you say??

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3939471781_afa477b3ae_m.jpg
Brent's rootbeer racer.

GThawkwind
03-25-2013, 05:19 PM
I know I'm dragging up an old thread but I'm very curious about these wheels, and there not that hard to find on craigslist if your willing to get them shipped.
I am in love with those cragar star wires right now especially the ones with the reverse offset like this one, You think the star wire reverse offset say 15 by 6 or 7 whichever works best would fit underneath a hawk with 235 60R15 tires on it, I think this on a hawk with just just a little lower than factory stance would look fantastic what would it take you think? black wall white letter tires of course.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/westcoastryda75/ALL%20NEW%20PIXS%202011-12/CRUZIN043.jpg

63 R2 Hawk
03-25-2013, 05:42 PM
22501OK, I'll join in on this resuscitated thread. 245-50-16, forget what bs is and mfgr, been running this size for 6 years, but they fit....

GThawkwind
03-25-2013, 05:55 PM
22501OK, I'll join in on this resuscitated thread. 245-50-16, forget what bs is and mfgr, been running this size for 6 years, but they fit....
I like it! If it was mine though I would bump up to 245 55R16 and drop the car an inch, too bad they don't make the star wires in 16 inch

jimmijim8
03-25-2013, 06:48 PM
looks like a baby spare tire. Sorry, not fer me.
22501OK, I'll join in on this resuscitated thread. 245-50-16, forget what bs is and mfgr, been running this size for 6 years, but they fit....

Gold Hawk Doug
03-26-2013, 12:39 PM
As long as we're bringing up old threds, I thought I'd put my two cents in:

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/photo14.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/photo13.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/silverqueenpic.jpg

Dayton wire 6x15 w/3.5" offset and 215x75R15"s Diamondback tires

Rims painted matching Apache red to match car trim and the stock wheels that came with the car.

Doug

52-fan
03-26-2013, 01:01 PM
looks like a baby spare tire. Sorry, not fer me.

You're right. I didn't notice the resemblance to a donut spare. It doesn't fill the wheel well enough for me as shown in the picture, but may look great in person.

StudegaryB
03-26-2013, 02:59 PM
Here's my '61 Hawk with Magnum 500 14" wheels

63 R2 Hawk
03-26-2013, 03:48 PM
Here's a photo from a different perspective. With 8" wide wheels, bigger tires won't fit. 245-50-16 gives a slightly lower (numerically higher) final drive which improves acceleration. I still get decent fuel economy and handling is greatly improved, especially with KYB shocks. The low chord tire handles more like the bias ply tire that the suspension was designed for. I tried several different tire/wheel combos before I found one that worked for me.

22521

52-fan
03-26-2013, 03:57 PM
Looks different from that angle. A more muscular appearance.

swvalcon
03-26-2013, 04:10 PM
The only think that improves the look of a stock hawk is the wire wheels. Well maybe the hooters girls but thats another subject.

StudeRich
03-26-2013, 05:58 PM
As long as we're bringing up old threds, I thought I'd put my two cents in:

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/photo14.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/photo13.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/silverqueenpic.jpg

Dayton wire 6x15 w/3.5" offset and 215x75R15"s Diamondback tires

Rims painted matching Apache red to match car trim and the stock wheels that came with the car.

Doug

Originally with RED Wheels and Red Side Grilles? Is this a '57 Golden Hawk 400 with Leather Interior, or a clone?

candbstudebakers
03-26-2013, 07:21 PM
Here's my '61 Hawk with Magnum 500 14" wheels

My 64 GT with Magnum 500's 15" with low profile tires.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/1964%20super%20hawk/IM004440.jpg

GThawkwind
03-26-2013, 08:06 PM
Hey Bob, what are the tire sizes on that GT, and is that the factory ride height, I always thought a GT would look best in a wider lower profile tire, nd your looks really good.

Gold Hawk Doug
03-26-2013, 08:36 PM
Originally with RED Wheels and Red Side Grilles? Is this a '57 Golden Hawk 400 with Leather Interior, or a clone?

As near as I can figure it is a clone. I've been told the production of the car is to early,(Nov '56)

to be a 400. No options on the order are unusual except the notation to send it "to Stock." Procuction # is

57H-K7 614. The Vin is 6100669.

However there are other things besides the repaint that are not quite stock. Bucket seats out of a '62 GT, and a T-10 tranny, with the hurst shifter. Red leather interior and trim to match outside red.

The engine, frame, and suspention axle all original to the car, still with the original undercoating.
The repaint was good. I've been all over the car, and as yet, can find any trace of any of the original color.

I've reccently Got a lead on one of the previous owners, in San Diego. As soon as I can contact him I'll post the news up in another thread.

Sorry for the brief thread hijack, Its kind of a hot topic for me to acertain the history of the car

Doug

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/DSC_0020.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/DSC_0021.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/DougVP/DSC_0011.jpg

GThawkwind
03-26-2013, 08:54 PM
Man, with the GT seats and the BWT10 that car really has a best of both worlds thing goin for it.

Gold Hawk Doug
03-26-2013, 09:13 PM
Yup!, If they made 'em this way to begin with they might have sold more cars.

The Hawk is an absolute hoot to drive with the 4 speed! And everthing works as of last week, The Tachometer, the clock, and even the cigar lighter!

Doug

StudeRich
03-27-2013, 09:56 PM
That IS a very sweet Car Doug, all of the upgrades are just that...nicely done! I like it.
All of us would change SOMETHING, if we owned a Car that someone else modified I am sure. ;)

With me it would be those Red Wire Wheels :(, I would put the stock White steel ones on with the Stock simulated Spoked GH Wheel Covers or the Wire Wheel Covers.

Gold Hawk Doug
03-28-2013, 11:49 AM
I know what you mean Rich. The like/dislike ratio on the wheels is about 80% to 20%. With the majority liking them. Unfortunatly the original wheels on the car where pretty bent up, and I was a little worried about putting new radials on them. I tried to have them straitened, but they're too old with too much memory in them. I thought the wire wheels would be close to the original look.

At least they ride a lot better, without the vibrations of the old wheels, and I like them, so there!

I'm going to keep the old wheels, and put the old Cokers on them. If I ever get into a concourse situation, where originality counts, I can always swap'em out, for the show.

Doug

StudeRich
03-28-2013, 05:22 PM
That's fine Doug, as I said it's MY opinion, and since it is your car, you are free to do whatever, but the guys here except me, were just being nice! Lol :D

You know Doug, now that I think about it, it's just like Owning and Driving mostly, but not all Original Studebakers, I have convinced myself after 53 years of doing so, that I am right and the other Millions of New, Brand X (mostly Foreign made) Car owners are WRONG! Maybe outnumbered but always right! :ohmy: :lol:
Because to me like you, the only opinion that really matters is your own.

Gold Hawk Doug
03-29-2013, 10:16 AM
"Because to me like you, the only opinion that really matters is your own."


Hear,Hear!! On this we can agree.


Doug