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65cruiser
11-10-2006, 09:00 AM
Last week I tracked down the previous owner of my Cruiser, Don Morgan of Ohio. He's the Ohio Regional Manager of the SDC. We had a nice conversation about my car and he was able to fill in some of the blanks for me. He also was gracious enough to send me the few pictures he had remaining of my car when he purchased it back in 1996. I did not know it was 10 years ago. It's amazing how well the car has held up for the last 10 years--it still looks great.

Note the odd location of the rearview mirrors on the front fenders.

I put up a page here:

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/Restoration.htm

Before:

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/restoration/dis3.jpg

After:

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/restoration/finished.jpg

Still looking good:

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/651.JPG

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

Scott
11-10-2006, 09:05 AM
That last picture should be in the most beautiful Studebaker thread.

Scott
11-10-2006, 09:05 AM
That last picture should be in the most beautiful Studebaker thread.

arkiejazz
11-10-2006, 12:22 PM
Mark, that's a beautiful Cruiser. How does it perform with the 6?

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
11-10-2006, 12:22 PM
Mark, that's a beautiful Cruiser. How does it perform with the 6?

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

65cruiser
11-10-2006, 01:53 PM
Steve,

It's actually quite peppy. This is a Chevybaker with the 194 six. But, I've been quite pleased with the performance. It has a 3.73 TT rear and can run 70 all day long. Gas mileage is not good however. I'd probably do near the same or even better with an 8 (averaging 16mpg).


quote:Originally posted by arkiejazz

Mark, that's a beautiful Cruiser. How does it perform with the 6?

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh


________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
11-10-2006, 01:53 PM
Steve,

It's actually quite peppy. This is a Chevybaker with the 194 six. But, I've been quite pleased with the performance. It has a 3.73 TT rear and can run 70 all day long. Gas mileage is not good however. I'd probably do near the same or even better with an 8 (averaging 16mpg).


quote:Originally posted by arkiejazz

Mark, that's a beautiful Cruiser. How does it perform with the 6?

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh


________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

arkiejazz
11-10-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm surprised at that mileage figure. AMC 6's (258 and 232) of the same era were doing 25-28 mpg

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
11-10-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm surprised at that mileage figure. AMC 6's (258 and 232) of the same era were doing 25-28 mpg

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

studeclunker
11-10-2006, 06:02 PM
Beautiful car. I've read several comments regarding the lack of MPG advantage of the six over the eight. Part of the reason, in this case, is the size of the car. That's a lot of work for that little six. Surprises me that a Cruiser came with one. Commander, maybe. But a Cruiser[?]

Gotta repeat it, Beautiful Car!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/red54wagon-1.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/62lark-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
11-10-2006, 06:02 PM
Beautiful car. I've read several comments regarding the lack of MPG advantage of the six over the eight. Part of the reason, in this case, is the size of the car. That's a lot of work for that little six. Surprises me that a Cruiser came with one. Commander, maybe. But a Cruiser[?]

Gotta repeat it, Beautiful Car!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/red54wagon-1.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/62lark-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

mbstude
11-10-2006, 08:18 PM
In '65 and '66 you could indeed get an inline 6 in a Cruiser. It does seem a little wierd, but this was in '65, and Studebaker was probably willing to sell any combo of car that they could. [V]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
11-10-2006, 08:18 PM
In '65 and '66 you could indeed get an inline 6 in a Cruiser. It does seem a little wierd, but this was in '65, and Studebaker was probably willing to sell any combo of car that they could. [V]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

redvoyager
11-10-2006, 09:40 PM
Seems that since its a chevy 6 allready you could probably just swap in a newer chevy overdrive transmission with very little conversion. Did Studebaker use chevy or Stude transmissions with the chev eng?

Norm
58 Transtar 1 ton dually PU
58 2 door wagon
Davenport, Fl

redvoyager
11-10-2006, 09:40 PM
Seems that since its a chevy 6 allready you could probably just swap in a newer chevy overdrive transmission with very little conversion. Did Studebaker use chevy or Stude transmissions with the chev eng?

Norm
58 Transtar 1 ton dually PU
58 2 door wagon
Davenport, Fl

mbstude
11-10-2006, 10:05 PM
The automatics used Stude transmissions. I'm not sure about the manuals.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
11-10-2006, 10:05 PM
The automatics used Stude transmissions. I'm not sure about the manuals.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

Transtar60
11-11-2006, 08:57 AM
The manual and automatic trannies are "Stude". Stude used new Ch#$y to Stude tranny bellhousings to use the same tranny. Linkages and setup was slightly different on the automatics ie cable kickdown rather than linkage rods.

3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc

Transtar60
11-11-2006, 08:57 AM
The manual and automatic trannies are "Stude". Stude used new Ch#$y to Stude tranny bellhousings to use the same tranny. Linkages and setup was slightly different on the automatics ie cable kickdown rather than linkage rods.

3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc

65cruiser
11-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Cable kickdown? Not on mine anyway. It's adjusted by a linkage to the carburetor.

Also for those that were surprised they'd put a 6 in a Cruiser, they only made 791 of them that way. When I contacted Bill Oliver for an appraisal, he told me that someone had swapped the engine because Studebaker never put a 6 in a Cruiser. Once I sent him the documentation he believed me


quote:Originally posted by Transtar60

The manual and automatic trannies are "Stude". Stude used new Ch#$y to Stude tranny bellhousings to use the same tranny. Linkages and setup was slightly different on the automatics ie cable kickdown rather than linkage rods.

3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc
:)

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
11-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Cable kickdown? Not on mine anyway. It's adjusted by a linkage to the carburetor.

Also for those that were surprised they'd put a 6 in a Cruiser, they only made 791 of them that way. When I contacted Bill Oliver for an appraisal, he told me that someone had swapped the engine because Studebaker never put a 6 in a Cruiser. Once I sent him the documentation he believed me


quote:Originally posted by Transtar60

The manual and automatic trannies are "Stude". Stude used new Ch#$y to Stude tranny bellhousings to use the same tranny. Linkages and setup was slightly different on the automatics ie cable kickdown rather than linkage rods.

3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc
:)

________________________
Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

StudeRich
11-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Well, what Bill forgot is we're not dealing with a typical South Bend Stude here, the Canadians even built '64 Daytona H/T's and '63 GT Hawks with Skybolt 6's for gosh sakes![:0][:0][xx(] In my way of thinking, a PERFORMANCE CAR is a performance car! You don't put 6 Squirrels and a squirrel cage under the hood!:(

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
11-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Well, what Bill forgot is we're not dealing with a typical South Bend Stude here, the Canadians even built '64 Daytona H/T's and '63 GT Hawks with Skybolt 6's for gosh sakes![:0][:0][xx(] In my way of thinking, a PERFORMANCE CAR is a performance car! You don't put 6 Squirrels and a squirrel cage under the hood!:(

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

lstude
11-11-2006, 03:58 PM
Every once and a while you see a high end car with a low end engine. I saw this 65 Ford Galaxie 500 4 door hardtop at Hershey with a six cylinder engine. Also, by looking at this picture you can see how much better looking (in my opinion) the 65 Cruiser was than the 65 Ford, even though the Cruiser was based on a 12 year old design and the Ford was a brand new design.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Hershey2006carshow275.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
11-11-2006, 03:58 PM
Every once and a while you see a high end car with a low end engine. I saw this 65 Ford Galaxie 500 4 door hardtop at Hershey with a six cylinder engine. Also, by looking at this picture you can see how much better looking (in my opinion) the 65 Cruiser was than the 65 Ford, even though the Cruiser was based on a 12 year old design and the Ford was a brand new design.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Hershey2006carshow275.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg