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lstude
11-09-2006, 06:23 AM
It is too bad someone took the Champion lettering off the front fenders of this car, now the vendor thinks he has a Land Cruiser!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1950-Studebaker-Commander-Landcruiser_W0QQitemZ170047983968QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/50Championgreen.jpg

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lstude
11-09-2006, 06:33 AM
It also looks like someone put a quickie paint job on an unrestored car without doing the necessary prep work:

It has a couple of small areas that have rusted through that can be easily fixed. The paint is new although there are some flaws, a few runs and dents not taken care of. The bill for the paint job was $1750.00 dollars.

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lstude
11-09-2006, 06:33 AM
It also looks like someone put a quickie paint job on an unrestored car without doing the necessary prep work:

It has a couple of small areas that have rusted through that can be easily fixed. The paint is new although there are some flaws, a few runs and dents not taken care of. The bill for the paint job was $1750.00 dollars.

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bams50
11-09-2006, 06:44 AM
I wonder if that's the case, or if the seller knows that the more related names he puts in his listing, the more potential viewers he gets via searches?

Some just put a whole paragraph of keywords at the bottom of their description...

What else would explain why so many different cars are described as "rat rod"? [}:)]

I wonder the same about the "Champion Commander" conv...?

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Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
11-09-2006, 06:44 AM
I wonder if that's the case, or if the seller knows that the more related names he puts in his listing, the more potential viewers he gets via searches?

Some just put a whole paragraph of keywords at the bottom of their description...

What else would explain why so many different cars are described as "rat rod"? [}:)]

I wonder the same about the "Champion Commander" conv...?

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

lstude
11-09-2006, 06:49 AM
quote: I wonder if that's the case, or if the seller knows that the more related names he puts in his listing, the more potential viewers he gets via searches?

Some just put a whole paragraph of keywords at the bottom of their description...

What else would explain why so many different cars are described as "rat rod"?

That may be the case, now that eBay is cracking down on people who describe a car as: STUDEBAKER, NOT FORD OR CHEVY. Althougth this guy could have also put the word Champion on it, SINCE THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

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lstude
11-09-2006, 06:49 AM
quote: I wonder if that's the case, or if the seller knows that the more related names he puts in his listing, the more potential viewers he gets via searches?

Some just put a whole paragraph of keywords at the bottom of their description...

What else would explain why so many different cars are described as "rat rod"?

That may be the case, now that eBay is cracking down on people who describe a car as: STUDEBAKER, NOT FORD OR CHEVY. Althougth this guy could have also put the word Champion on it, SINCE THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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56H-Y6
11-09-2006, 08:52 AM
Hi
Boy, $1,750 for the paint job and they didn't even bother to paint the door jams and insides, what a bargain! I think that poor slob is going to get a real hard lesson on that car.
Steve

56H-Y6
11-09-2006, 08:52 AM
Hi
Boy, $1,750 for the paint job and they didn't even bother to paint the door jams and insides, what a bargain! I think that poor slob is going to get a real hard lesson on that car.
Steve

StudeRich
11-09-2006, 12:53 PM
OK, I guess he can call it a Commander! I just saw one left tail light lense from a '50 Commander, [^]Champion on the other! :(:D


quote:Originally posted by lstude

It is too bad someone took the Champion lettering off the front fenders of this car, now the vendor thinks he has a Land Cruiser!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
11-09-2006, 12:53 PM
OK, I guess he can call it a Commander! I just saw one left tail light lense from a '50 Commander, [^]Champion on the other! :(:D


quote:Originally posted by lstude

It is too bad someone took the Champion lettering off the front fenders of this car, now the vendor thinks he has a Land Cruiser!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

lstude
11-09-2006, 04:55 PM
I especially like the way he painted over what looks to be a flange from a backup light!:(
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/50Championgreenrear.jpg

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lstude
11-09-2006, 04:55 PM
I especially like the way he painted over what looks to be a flange from a backup light!:(
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/50Championgreenrear.jpg

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JDP
11-09-2006, 05:06 PM
I run, not walk from cars like that. quickie paint job on a rough car would just have to be stripped anytway.

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JDP
11-09-2006, 05:06 PM
I run, not walk from cars like that. quickie paint job on a rough car would just have to be stripped anytway.

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JDP
Arnold Md.
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
My Ebay Items
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64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 4E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
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52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

rockne10
11-09-2006, 09:08 PM
That back up light should have been on the body, not on the fender. That would be the cheapest thing to fix on this offering.

Worth saving, but at what price?

rockne10
11-09-2006, 09:08 PM
That back up light should have been on the body, not on the fender. That would be the cheapest thing to fix on this offering.

Worth saving, but at what price?

3rdGenStude
11-09-2006, 09:29 PM
quote:now the vendor thinks he has a Land Cruiser!

This does make me curious. . . I DO have a '50 Land Cruiser, which I just got home a couple weeks ago. (rear door vent windows, fender lettering, one piece Commander windshield. dash, etc.are all Land Cruiser correct)

What I'm curious about is perceived value. Are Land Cruisers (if good or correctly restored) considered much more "special" than Champions?

Right now, mine is pretty rough. Front floor pans pretty much gone, rockers gone, rust in corners of the trunk floor, rust at bottom of cowel. On th eother hand, nearly every trim piece is there, all interior panels, instruments, chrome, etc. Plus, the engine runs, tranny works, and overdrive is said to work as well.

Besides, I got it for $700. At that price, can I really go wrong, even though I need to buy floor pans, fender vent repair kits, new upholstery, etc??

While I would have preferred a 55 Starliner, I've been wanting a Studebaker for years, so I wasn't about to complain when my wife offered to buy me an early Christmas present!



Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

3rdGenStude
11-09-2006, 09:29 PM
quote:now the vendor thinks he has a Land Cruiser!

This does make me curious. . . I DO have a '50 Land Cruiser, which I just got home a couple weeks ago. (rear door vent windows, fender lettering, one piece Commander windshield. dash, etc.are all Land Cruiser correct)

What I'm curious about is perceived value. Are Land Cruisers (if good or correctly restored) considered much more "special" than Champions?

Right now, mine is pretty rough. Front floor pans pretty much gone, rockers gone, rust in corners of the trunk floor, rust at bottom of cowel. On th eother hand, nearly every trim piece is there, all interior panels, instruments, chrome, etc. Plus, the engine runs, tranny works, and overdrive is said to work as well.

Besides, I got it for $700. At that price, can I really go wrong, even though I need to buy floor pans, fender vent repair kits, new upholstery, etc??

While I would have preferred a 55 Starliner, I've been wanting a Studebaker for years, so I wasn't about to complain when my wife offered to buy me an early Christmas present!



Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

rockne10
11-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Land Cruiser's much better than a Champion unless the Champion is a Starlight Coupe or, better yet, a convertible.

Land Cruiser's a long wheelbase four door with a Commander running gear; better than a Commander four door and a great living room to cruise in. Wish I had kept mine.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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rockne10
11-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Land Cruiser's much better than a Champion unless the Champion is a Starlight Coupe or, better yet, a convertible.

Land Cruiser's a long wheelbase four door with a Commander running gear; better than a Commander four door and a great living room to cruise in. Wish I had kept mine.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

lstude
11-10-2006, 04:33 AM
quote:What I'm curious about is perceived value. Are Land Cruisers (if good or correctly restored) considered much more "special" than Champions?

The Land Cruiser was rare when new and much more rare than Champions today. Below is an all original 50 Land Cruiser that one of our club members brought from Hawaii to Virginia.

I have noticed that the vendor has changed his description to Champion.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/NovemberStudebakerMeet002.jpg


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lstude
11-10-2006, 04:33 AM
quote:What I'm curious about is perceived value. Are Land Cruisers (if good or correctly restored) considered much more "special" than Champions?

The Land Cruiser was rare when new and much more rare than Champions today. Below is an all original 50 Land Cruiser that one of our club members brought from Hawaii to Virginia.

I have noticed that the vendor has changed his description to Champion.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/NovemberStudebakerMeet002.jpg


Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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3rdGenStude
11-11-2006, 11:50 AM
quote:Below is an all original 50 Land Cruiser that one of our club members brought from Hawaii to Virginia.

Thanks for that picture. Mine is black, too, though not nearly so shiny.

It looks like my wheel covers might be correct after all, if your club member's discs are correct.



Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

3rdGenStude
11-11-2006, 11:50 AM
quote:Below is an all original 50 Land Cruiser that one of our club members brought from Hawaii to Virginia.

Thanks for that picture. Mine is black, too, though not nearly so shiny.

It looks like my wheel covers might be correct after all, if your club member's discs are correct.



Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

lstude
11-11-2006, 12:20 PM
quote:Thanks for that picture. Mine is black, too, though not nearly so shiny.

It looks like my wheel covers might be correct after all, if your club member's discs are correct.



Paul
The photo makes the paint look much better than it is on this car, even though it is a beautiful car. I am not an expert on 50 Studebakers, but I think Studebaker made running changes on them during the model year. At some point they changed the wheel covers and added the crest in the center. They also chrome plated the headlight surrounds. This is an early 50 Land Cruiser. Most of my experience with these cars was many years ago when I used to ride in my grandfather's. His was also an early model. Below is a better photo of the wheel cover.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/HamidLindaAl-Abdulla50Commanderfron.jpg

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lstude
11-11-2006, 12:20 PM
quote:Thanks for that picture. Mine is black, too, though not nearly so shiny.

It looks like my wheel covers might be correct after all, if your club member's discs are correct.



Paul
The photo makes the paint look much better than it is on this car, even though it is a beautiful car. I am not an expert on 50 Studebakers, but I think Studebaker made running changes on them during the model year. At some point they changed the wheel covers and added the crest in the center. They also chrome plated the headlight surrounds. This is an early 50 Land Cruiser. Most of my experience with these cars was many years ago when I used to ride in my grandfather's. His was also an early model. Below is a better photo of the wheel cover.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/HamidLindaAl-Abdulla50Commanderfron.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
11-11-2006, 12:26 PM
quote:Thanks for that picture. Mine is black, too, though not nearly so shiny.

I think this car is actually the color they called "Black Cherry". It looks black in the photo, but when you look at it up close in the sunlight, there is a slight maroon tint to it.

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lstude
11-11-2006, 12:26 PM
quote:Thanks for that picture. Mine is black, too, though not nearly so shiny.

I think this car is actually the color they called "Black Cherry". It looks black in the photo, but when you look at it up close in the sunlight, there is a slight maroon tint to it.

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bams50
11-11-2006, 12:45 PM
Note to self: Save pics of this car, so if I do change the color on my car I can refer to this one as how NOT to do it [}:)][xx(]

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Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
11-11-2006, 12:45 PM
Note to self: Save pics of this car, so if I do change the color on my car I can refer to this one as how NOT to do it [}:)][xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
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3rdGenStude
11-11-2006, 04:44 PM
quote:I think this car is actually the color they called "Black Cherry". It looks black in the photo, but when you look at it up close in the sunlight, there is a slight maroon tint to it.

Yes, now that you mention it, even the pictures suggest that. That would make the maroon wheels more of a natural, too. But my spare (still has the original but worn down tire on it,) is also the same shade of maroon. My wheel covers don't seem to have the same ridges or as much dish to them. Mine probably has some cheap replacements. But it's good to hear that not all of them had the crest, anyway.

I saw a Commander on eBay recently which had leather seat upholstery which the listing claimed to be a dealer installed extra. I'd really like to have such seat covers made, and change the paint color to copper mist, as long as I need to take it all apart anyway. Oh yah, those fender skirts look nice on there, too. But I suppose they could be really hard to find.

Oh well, I'm getting way ahead of myself on this project! Got'ta get floors in it first!

Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

3rdGenStude
11-11-2006, 04:44 PM
quote:I think this car is actually the color they called "Black Cherry". It looks black in the photo, but when you look at it up close in the sunlight, there is a slight maroon tint to it.

Yes, now that you mention it, even the pictures suggest that. That would make the maroon wheels more of a natural, too. But my spare (still has the original but worn down tire on it,) is also the same shade of maroon. My wheel covers don't seem to have the same ridges or as much dish to them. Mine probably has some cheap replacements. But it's good to hear that not all of them had the crest, anyway.

I saw a Commander on eBay recently which had leather seat upholstery which the listing claimed to be a dealer installed extra. I'd really like to have such seat covers made, and change the paint color to copper mist, as long as I need to take it all apart anyway. Oh yah, those fender skirts look nice on there, too. But I suppose they could be really hard to find.

Oh well, I'm getting way ahead of myself on this project! Got'ta get floors in it first!

Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

lstude
11-12-2006, 06:55 AM
quote:My wheel covers don't seem to have the same ridges or as much dish to them. Mine probably has some cheap replacements. But it's good to hear that not all of them had the crest, anyway.


As I look closer at the wheel covers on the Land Cruiser, I can see that they are the small Commander hubcaps with wheel rings, and not the full wheel covers. Below is a picture of a Land Cruiser that was at the Spokane Meet that has the full wheel covers. They are just like the ones with the crest but without the crest. The skirts pop up on eBay occasionally, and someone used to advertise them in Turning Wheels. I am sure you will be able to find some. Good Luck on your Land Cruiser. I hope to see a picture of it.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/SpokaneMeettrip066.jpg

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lstude
11-12-2006, 06:55 AM
quote:My wheel covers don't seem to have the same ridges or as much dish to them. Mine probably has some cheap replacements. But it's good to hear that not all of them had the crest, anyway.


As I look closer at the wheel covers on the Land Cruiser, I can see that they are the small Commander hubcaps with wheel rings, and not the full wheel covers. Below is a picture of a Land Cruiser that was at the Spokane Meet that has the full wheel covers. They are just like the ones with the crest but without the crest. The skirts pop up on eBay occasionally, and someone used to advertise them in Turning Wheels. I am sure you will be able to find some. Good Luck on your Land Cruiser. I hope to see a picture of it.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/SpokaneMeettrip066.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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3rdGenStude
11-12-2006, 08:48 PM
quote:Below is a picture of a Land Cruiser that was at the Spokane Meet that has the full wheel covers. They are just like the ones with the crest but without the crest. The skirts pop up on eBay occasionally, and someone used to advertise them in Turning Wheels. I am sure you will be able to find some. Good Luck on your Land Cruiser. I hope to see a picture of it.

Beautiful Car! That green looks really nice on there.

I hope my poor rust bucket looks as nice some day as that one at Spokane.

I'll have to set up a photo account somewhere on line. I just took a bunch of shots today, finally.



Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

3rdGenStude
11-12-2006, 08:48 PM
quote:Below is a picture of a Land Cruiser that was at the Spokane Meet that has the full wheel covers. They are just like the ones with the crest but without the crest. The skirts pop up on eBay occasionally, and someone used to advertise them in Turning Wheels. I am sure you will be able to find some. Good Luck on your Land Cruiser. I hope to see a picture of it.

Beautiful Car! That green looks really nice on there.

I hope my poor rust bucket looks as nice some day as that one at Spokane.

I'll have to set up a photo account somewhere on line. I just took a bunch of shots today, finally.



Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

Roscomacaw
11-13-2006, 12:00 PM
The 50 Commander full disc wheelcovers (P/N 527541) are plain and the subsequent, crest-bearing edition (AC-2118) is basically that same stamping with the crest added. The plain wheelcover is also listed as optional equipment for the '47 thru '50 cars. The 50s are also shown to be alloted the option of the crested covers. And while the crested cover is THE full disc cover for 51 & 52, that crested cover's also shown as a choice for the '53 models. I have trouble tho, with the notion that any '53s came from the factory with those older style covers given that the '53s were a totally new design with new wheelcoves/caps as well

While on this subject, there's two different variations of the 51-52 full disc covers. The difference is subtle but easily visible when holding one next to the other. The difference is in the outer lip and the way it fairs to meet the wheel. What must be assumed as the earlier version of the crested cover has a lip that comes upwards from the deepest part of the cover and then flares outwards towards the rim a bit. This is just the same as the earlier, un-crested cover. Also like the earlier cover, the number of "teeth" is the same and the diameter of the valve stem hole matches.
What must be a later variant has a lip that simply comes up from the deepest part of the cover and doesn't flare outward at all. It also has more rim-gripping "teeth" and a smaller diameter valve stem hole. AC-2118 is the number assigned these crested covers and no variation is noted in the parts book that would point to different versions of it, so I assume the factory considered them to be the same.:D



Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
11-13-2006, 12:00 PM
The 50 Commander full disc wheelcovers (P/N 527541) are plain and the subsequent, crest-bearing edition (AC-2118) is basically that same stamping with the crest added. The plain wheelcover is also listed as optional equipment for the '47 thru '50 cars. The 50s are also shown to be alloted the option of the crested covers. And while the crested cover is THE full disc cover for 51 & 52, that crested cover's also shown as a choice for the '53 models. I have trouble tho, with the notion that any '53s came from the factory with those older style covers given that the '53s were a totally new design with new wheelcoves/caps as well

While on this subject, there's two different variations of the 51-52 full disc covers. The difference is subtle but easily visible when holding one next to the other. The difference is in the outer lip and the way it fairs to meet the wheel. What must be assumed as the earlier version of the crested cover has a lip that comes upwards from the deepest part of the cover and then flares outwards towards the rim a bit. This is just the same as the earlier, un-crested cover. Also like the earlier cover, the number of "teeth" is the same and the diameter of the valve stem hole matches.
What must be a later variant has a lip that simply comes up from the deepest part of the cover and doesn't flare outward at all. It also has more rim-gripping "teeth" and a smaller diameter valve stem hole. AC-2118 is the number assigned these crested covers and no variation is noted in the parts book that would point to different versions of it, so I assume the factory considered them to be the same.:D



Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

lstude
11-13-2006, 12:41 PM
I see the vendor with the eBay car has changed his title to Champion and someone has bid on it.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
11-13-2006, 12:41 PM
I see the vendor with the eBay car has changed his title to Champion and someone has bid on it.

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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3rdGenStude
11-13-2006, 10:41 PM
quote:I hope to see a picture of it.


quote:I'll have to set up a photo account somewhere on line. I just took a bunch of shots today, finally.

Done! I got my photobucket account set up. Only a few shots now. More to come.

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Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

3rdGenStude
11-13-2006, 10:41 PM
quote:I hope to see a picture of it.


quote:I'll have to set up a photo account somewhere on line. I just took a bunch of shots today, finally.

Done! I got my photobucket account set up. Only a few shots now. More to come.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q248/3rdGenStude/P1050652.jpg

Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

lstude
11-14-2006, 04:46 AM
Great looking original car, Paul. Was this in your family? I love original cars!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
11-14-2006, 04:46 AM
Great looking original car, Paul. Was this in your family? I love original cars!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

rockne10
11-14-2006, 07:42 PM
Paul, you closed your eyes; now we need more pictures.

That looks like the condition of the one I parted out twenty years ago.[V]

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

rockne10
11-14-2006, 07:42 PM
Paul, you closed your eyes; now we need more pictures.

That looks like the condition of the one I parted out twenty years ago.[V]

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

3rdGenStude
11-15-2006, 01:45 PM
Len,


quote:Great looking original car, Paul. Was this in your family? I love original cars!

No, but it seems an aweful lot like one that my grandpa drove when I was REALLY young. But this one originated in Tennessee, and migrated to Michigan in the early '60's.

But with no front floor and the seat stuffing falling out of the ripped upholstery, it's a little too far gone to stay original. At least I saved it from the cutting torch and a complete chop-job, which is what the previous owner had in store for it.

Brad,


quote:parted out

Hard to tell if your smilie means you regret parting it out, or if you think I'm nuts for trying to save this one.[:I]

Seriously, it's too bad I'm a rank beginner. But between my son the professional mechanic and the SDC, I hope to do it justice.


Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

3rdGenStude
11-15-2006, 01:45 PM
Len,


quote:Great looking original car, Paul. Was this in your family? I love original cars!

No, but it seems an aweful lot like one that my grandpa drove when I was REALLY young. But this one originated in Tennessee, and migrated to Michigan in the early '60's.

But with no front floor and the seat stuffing falling out of the ripped upholstery, it's a little too far gone to stay original. At least I saved it from the cutting torch and a complete chop-job, which is what the previous owner had in store for it.

Brad,


quote:parted out

Hard to tell if your smilie means you regret parting it out, or if you think I'm nuts for trying to save this one.[:I]

Seriously, it's too bad I'm a rank beginner. But between my son the professional mechanic and the SDC, I hope to do it justice.


Paul

1950 Land Cruiser project

rockne10
11-15-2006, 09:54 PM
Definitely regret, Paul. At the time it was too much project for my situation. I've restored much worse ones since then; some less desirable than a Land Cruiser.

On the positive side, at least I know it lended itself to other restorations, rather than getting crushed like so many others.

I have a feeling you're going to love this car.

Now you got me thinking back twenty years. I had it in a shop to restore it. When I decided not to proceed with the project I sold it to Al Hall at A&B Studebaker, knowing the parts would find good homes. A few months later the shop burned to the ground. Had I continued the project and the car still been there, all would have been lost.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

rockne10
11-15-2006, 09:54 PM
Definitely regret, Paul. At the time it was too much project for my situation. I've restored much worse ones since then; some less desirable than a Land Cruiser.

On the positive side, at least I know it lended itself to other restorations, rather than getting crushed like so many others.

I have a feeling you're going to love this car.

Now you got me thinking back twenty years. I had it in a shop to restore it. When I decided not to proceed with the project I sold it to Al Hall at A&B Studebaker, knowing the parts would find good homes. A few months later the shop burned to the ground. Had I continued the project and the car still been there, all would have been lost.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser