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259man
08-19-2008, 12:10 PM
My '62 Cruiser has Dana 27 axle shafts. Due to high mileage on the car (and horror stories of axles snapping), I've been thinking about replacing them.

I have some NOS Dana 23 shafts and was wondering if they would be decent replacements.

How different are the Dana 23 from the Dana 27 axles? Enough to cause problems if I installed these 23s in a car originally equipped with 27s?

Thanks for any help you can give!

Tom
1960 Lark VIII
1962 Lark Cruiser

mbstude
08-19-2008, 12:15 PM
A Cruiser with a Dana 27? Was it originally built like that?

I'd look for a complete Dana 44 rear end, and then buy new flanged axles from Fairborn or Stephen Cade. That doesn't answer your question, though. :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
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Swifster
08-19-2008, 01:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I'd look for a complete Dana 44 rear end, and then buy new flanged axles from Fairborn or Stephen Cade.

Is Stephen still selling parts?

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1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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Dick Steinkamp
08-19-2008, 03:08 PM
SI sells part number 1560422 and describes it as...

"AXLE SHAFT (10 SPLINES) 1953-1965
1953-1962, FOR MODEL 23 & 27 AXLE"

...so it sounds like they are interchangeable.



Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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StudeRich
08-19-2008, 04:38 PM
That would be right, the same, but BOTH weak! Like Matt said, because it was or is not 289 powered, it has a 27 and needs to be a 44!

Why do anything to it? If you drive it medium hard, or it has been changed to a 289, it WILL break, a lot sooner, than later!

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

259man
08-19-2008, 05:33 PM
[quote]Originally posted by mbstude

A Cruiser with a Dana 27? Was it originally built like that?

I'd look for a complete Dana 44 rear end, and then buy new flanged axles from Fairborn or Stephen Cade. That doesn't answer your question, though. :)

Yes, it did come that way, Matthew. This is pretty much a basic Cruiser - 259 engine, 3-speed OD transmission, dog dish hubcaps, etc. It was not nearly as loaded as most Cruisers I've seen. I think I've heard of only one other '62 Cruiser that didn't have an automatic transmission.

For now, I just want to make a decent driver out of this car. If I decide to do a major restoration in the future, I will pursue a Dana 44 rear end. For the time being, though, a total rear end change is not in the plans. :)



Tom
1960 Lark VIII
1962 Lark Cruiser

mbstude
08-19-2008, 09:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster


quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I'd look for a complete Dana 44 rear end, and then buy new flanged axles from Fairborn or Stephen Cade.

Is Stephen still selling parts?



He's selling new flanged axles. I got a set, and they are pretty slick. [^][8D]


My granddad's '62 Cruiser is pretty basic too. 259 automatic, but it does have cold A/C and power steering. Windshield washer too, if I remember right. :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
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DieselJim
08-20-2008, 08:21 AM
I had a 63 Cruiser with an R1, heavy duty auto and a 27 rear axel. It also had a sky top. Jim

r1lark
08-20-2008, 08:41 AM
quote:Originally posted by DieselJim

I had a 63 Cruiser with an R1, heavy duty auto and a 27 rear axel. It also had a sky top. Jim


Hi Jim, I sent you an email thru the Forum about your '63 Cruiser R1/Sktyop. Let me know if you don't receive it......

Thanks, Paul
Winston-Salem NC

259man
08-20-2008, 12:49 PM
So nobody has had (or knows of) a bad experience with Dana 23s behind a 259 engine?

I'm guessing that Dana 23s would not be bad for a 259 Lark, as I found that many early Lark V8s had 23s in them. If I understand correctly, 27s didn't come along till 1960.

In a perfect world, I would swap in a Dana 44 rear end (and do a complete restoration, etc.), but that's not on the radar screen for now.

Thanks!

Tom
1960 Lark VIII
1962 Lark Cruiser

DieselJim
08-20-2008, 04:24 PM
R1 Lark, I answered your email. Jim

StudeRich
08-20-2008, 06:15 PM
That would be correct Tom, I am sure there are some out there that have had manual trans. and or just drove the heck of them and broke something, but for "normal" use they do work OK.[^]

My everyday driver '59 Lark Regal VIII 4 Dr. 259 Auto. came with a 3.31 TT model 23 and seems fine with 97,000 orig. miles.

You are right 1960's & on have a 27, but not really much better, with the same axle. What always goes is the spider gears, we've had 3 that had 289 swaps, and "cleaned em" very nicely! :(


quote:Originally posted by 259man

So nobody has had (or knows of) a bad experience with Dana 23s behind a 259 engine?
I'm guessing that Dana 23s would not be bad for a 259 Lark, as I found that many early Lark V8s had 23s in them. If I understand correctly, 27s didn't come along till 1960.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA