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  • Alignment of motor mounting brackets

    I'd really appreciate any advice on getting a proper alignment for bolting on motor mounting brackets.

    The car is a '54 Champion. The PO had a small block Chevy and unknown manual transmission in the car. I bought the car without the drive train. I have just about finished rebuilding a 289 V8 which I want to install with a T85 transmission.

    When I bought the car the motor mounting brackets were still bolted on the front cross member. From looking at the parts manual, the brackets are the original stock Stude brackets, but the PO appears to have switched sides with the brackets so they were more forward oriented, and drilled new holes in the front cross member and in the top of the brackets to accommodate the Chevy engine. I have measured the Stude engine and I think if I switch the brackets back to the original sides, and move them further back on the front cross member, they should work with the V8.

    Unless someone has a better idea (I'm all ears!), what I thought I would do is bolt the rubber motor mounts, the brackets and the bell housing on to the engine, then use my engine hoist to lower the engine into the engine bay, and bolt the bell housing to the bell housing cross member. Then I'll lower the engine until the mounting brackets contact the front cross member, and mark and drill the holes in the front cross member. Basically, I'm using the bell housing and its cross member to align the engine.

    Is there a better way to do this?

    I should note there don't appear to be original holes in the front cross member for the position that the brackets would need to be for the V8. Since the car is a Champion, maybe the Stude factory only drilled holes for the mounting of the straight 6?

    Thanks

    John


    John
    1953 Commander Coupe
    1954 Champion Sedan
    1963 Lark

    John
    1953 Commander Coupe
    1954 Champion Sedan
    1963 Lark

  • #2
    According to the parts catalog, Champion and Commander (6's and V8's) C and K models shared the same frame mounted engine brackets. 532378 right and 532379 left.

    If you don't have a C/K, there are different part numbers for 15G's vs 5H's, however.

    I am not familiar with the Champion vs Commander non C/K brackets, but I can't imagine they mounted to the front cross member in different holes (anything is possible, however). If you have a non C/K, get a set of the V8 brackets and compare them to the 6 cylinder ones. If the holes are in the same spots, bolt the V8 ones in.

    If you have a C/K, just bolt in a set of unmodified brackets.

    Your method will not do a good job of "aligning" the engine. A lot of room for error.

    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA



    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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    • #3
      Since I know you have a Sedan from selling you the parts, I can say you just install Commander Engine Mount Brackets and be done with it!

      As you know there is a WORLD of difference with every part on that Sedan Body and frame from a C/K!

      And yes, the engine mount bracket is different on 6 Cyl. Sedans to 8 Cyl. Sedans, but the C/K's just use a universal bracket for both engines as Dick said.

      StudeRich
      Studebakers Northwest
      Ferndale, WA
      StudeRich
      Second Generation Stude Driver,
      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
      SDC Member Since 1967

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      • #4
        Thanks Gord and Rich. I've ordered the Model 5H mounting brackets (532400 and 532401). I assume (and hope) the bolt holes are pre-drilled in the cross member so everything lines up.

        John

        John
        1953 Commander Coupe
        1954 Champion Sedan
        1963 Lark

        John
        1953 Commander Coupe
        1954 Champion Sedan
        1963 Lark

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        • #5
          Yes they were, if someone did not weld them up, I think it is three each side.

          StudeRich
          Studebakers Northwest
          Ferndale, WA
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
          SDC Member Since 1967

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