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53hardtop
07-17-2008, 01:43 PM
My 53 Commander hardtop has what I believe to be a "factory installed crack in the frame near the front spring pockets.

http://www.studebaker-info.org/tech/Frames/HAWKcrak.jpg

But mine is a little more severe. Not only is the bottom plate of the frame cracked, the vertical portion is too. If I am already planning to weld the vertical part, what drawbacks are there to welding the "factory installed" part too. I want to avoid any further problems. I am not worried about authenticity, more about safety.


Rob in ND

StudeRich
07-17-2008, 02:26 PM
Where in the heck did you find that little tidbit of BS?

I don't see how it has the least bit to do with "bottoming out"!
The rubber snubbers prevent that.

Maybe preventing cracks allowing for some flex could be a sensible reason, if there is one! It could be a production or material necessity.

I don't think you will find that in the Studebaker Shop Manual! :D

Of course we all know the frames crack at the spring pocket but, this picture is trying to say there is a gap between the fore and aft lower frame plate which is factory installed for a REASON? [?] :D

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA

JDP
07-17-2008, 02:31 PM
That's a typical crack area. Not sure if Studebaker offered a reinforcement plate or a vendor did. N8 make still have pictures of the crack repair he did on his 56J.

JDP/Maryland
"I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it."
Thomas Jefferson

alanmende
07-18-2008, 07:31 AM
Please cite factory documentation that cracks in the frame were "factory installed."

Kindest regards,

Alan Mende
Hummelstown, PA

I'm not a mechanic; I don't even play one on TV.

53hardtop
07-18-2008, 09:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by alanmende

Please cite factory documentation that cracks in the frame were "factory installed."

Kindest regards,

Alan Mende
Hummelstown, PA

I'm not a mechanic; I don't even play one on TV.


I can't cite any factory documentation, I just stumbled on this on the web. I didn't create the document, just found it. I'll admit that it seemed too bizarre to be real.

sweetolbob
07-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Wouldn't you know it, Mine left the factory without it. Must have been a option.

JDP
07-18-2008, 10:38 AM
I suspect it's similar to factory installed rust, just a bit of sarcasm.

JDP/Maryland
"I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it."
Thomas Jefferson

64V-K7
07-18-2008, 10:38 AM
That picture was found about 10 years ago and was nothing but a parody on the crack that occurs due to frame fatigue...

Bob Johnstone
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53hardtop
07-18-2008, 10:55 AM
Thanks for clarification. If anyone is interested, I will soon have a pair of good condition frame cracks for sale.:D I won't need them anymore. (Sarcasm intended).

Thanks for the help.

Chucks Stude
07-18-2008, 12:07 PM
Interesting. My Stude has done a lot of "exfoliating" over the years. If this stuff is now becoming valuable, than I have several handfulls for sale to the highest bidder:D.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Dragasaurus/CopyofTable0451-1.jpg
Also, with all of the interest in the Titanic, do you think that I might be able to sell these as "Titanic Boiler Bolts"? They sure look like it. They actually were holding the seats in place on my GT[xx(].
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Dragasaurus/seatholddowns.jpg

Roscomacaw
07-18-2008, 05:22 PM
Bob Palma has patterns (I believe) for a patch for this problem. I've got a Hawk frame that suffers this.

Miscreant Studebaker nut in California's central valley.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

raoul5788
08-23-2008, 11:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Chucks Stude

Interesting. My Stude has done a lot of "exfoliating" over the years. If this stuff is now becoming valuable, than I have several handfulls for sale to the highest bidder:D.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Dragasaurus/CopyofTable0451-1.jpg
Also, with all of the interest in the Titanic, do you think that I might be able to sell these as "Titanic Boiler Bolts"? They sure look like it. They actually were holding the seats in place on my GT[xx(].
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Dragasaurus/seatholddowns.jpg


How could those bolts hold anything in place? :D

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon almost on the road!